Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
So this was brought up in Discord a bit ago and perhaps got swallowed up by the AI conversation but I'm bringing it up here now and we did get SOME good interaction there for a bit.
I'm doing a bunch of new techs based on a major tech tree restructure plan to support the unit review project. It took me a while but I have ALL of these techs mapped out as to where they will go on the tree, what will be their prereqs and what they will be prereqs for - numerous movements of techs and adjustments of placement will also be taking place.
My point here is that these are baked into a plan already so are past the point of debate whether we need them or not - there is purpose to all things here. However, to implement them, I need buttons and descriptions and importantly, tech quotes.
My wife (Whisperr) is working on buttons though it's a big list for her so if anyone wants to do some, she's working on the first of them right now and we could do a claiming system to divide that project up somewhat.
The originator of many of these, David, has stated he'll help me with some descriptions on some of the harder ones to understand what they might refer to but anyone who wants to post me some pedia descriptive text is welcome to help in that regard so these can come together quickly.
The MAIN thing I want assistance with is the quotes. There's a LOT of sources for quotes online and we've had some great suggestions and we need to go through them and decide on them hopefully fairly quickly. I'm not asking for recordings yet though if we've locked down a quote then I'd love to get submissions on that, post them and post a poll on that too so that we can as a community choose the recordings we like the best. I'll be throwing my own hat into that ring for most of these as well.
Here is the current list of NEW techs along with the suggestions we have so far.
If they are bold, I've decided I really really like the quote provided and that one is now (probably) locked down but I'll give it some time and if others have a quote they like more, they can get them in right away and we can do a poll.
If italicized, we have multiple suggestions and we need to consider those we have and do a quick poll which will happen very soon so if you have another to suggest, get your comment in quick here before it goes to poll on its own thread!
If it's neither bold nor italicized, we need more submissions! We should just respond here for these if we can so that all suggests are in one place and I'll try to keep up on showing them here in the first post.
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TECH_FRONTIERING
Washington [D.C.] is not a place to live in. The rents are high, the food is bad, the dust is disgusting and the morals are deplorable. Go West, young man, go West and grow up with the country. — attributed to Horace Greeley
(perfect quote imo)
TECH_SEWING_MACHINES
The sewing machine joins what the scissors have cut asunder, plus whatever else comes in its path.
-Mason Cooley
Today I'll bake, tomorrow I'll brew,
The next I'll fetch the queen's new child;
Still no one knows it just the same,
That Rumpelstiltskin is my name.'
Today I dance alone
tomorrow with a child.
Oh, it's hard to play my game,
Rumpelstiltskin is my name!
TECH_MEDICAL_INSTRUMENTATION
When there's no place for the scalpel, words are the surgeon's only tool.
Paul Kalanithi
At first I was queasy; I'll never forget the sound of the scalpel cutting a body open. But it was so cool trying to work out how these people died.
Jonathan Davis
Let me alone: I have yet my legs and one arm. Tell the surgeon to make haste and his instruments. I know I must lose my right arm, so the sooner it's off the better.
Horatio Nelson
TECH_CRANK_WEAPONS
A Wind Up Guns scene from Futurama has been suggested - I can try to find a way to post it here
It occurred to me that if I could invent a machine gun which could by its rapidity of fire enable one man to do as much battle duty as a hundred, that it would, to a large extent, supersede the necessity of large armies, and consequently, exposure to battle and disease would be greatly diminished.
Richard Jordan Gatling
TECH_TYPEWRITERS
Give 1 million monkeys 1 million typewriters and they'll eventually type the entire works of William Shakespeare.
-Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
TECH_CEMENT
Everything in Russia is made of cement - phone booths, fence posts and light bulbs. Ian Frazier
As a child, I used to have a secret dread - and a recurring nightmare - of the whole world becoming city, being covered with cement and buildings and streets. No more country. No more woods.
William Stanley Merwin
TECH_MECHANICAL_REAPERS
TECH_PADDLEWHEEL
TECH_BARREL_RIFLING
TECH_STELLAR_PARALAX
The wonder is not that the field of stars is so vast, but that man has measured it.
Anatole France
TECH_POSTAGE
Consider the postage stamp: its usefulness consists in the ability to stick to one thing till it gets there.
-Josh Billings
Be like a postage stamp. Stick to one thing until you get there.
-Josh Billings
TECH_EVOLUTION_THEORY
Biology is the most powerful technology ever created. DNA is software, protein are hardware, cells are factories.
Arvind Gupta
Our world is built on biology and once we begin to understand it, it then becomes a technology.
- Ryan Bethencourt
Biology sometimes reveals its fundamental principles through what may seem at first to be arcane and bizarre.
- Elizabeth Blackburn
Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
Theodosius Dobzhansky
Evolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science - in all of biology.
Bill Nye
Biology is the science. Evolution is the concept that makes biology unique.
Jared Diamond
Biology is the study of complicated things that have the appearance of having been designed with a purpose.
Richard Dawkins
TECH_ANTISEPTICS
Bearing in mind that it is from the vitality of the atmospheric particles that all the mischief arises, it appears that all that is requisite is to dress the wound with some material capable of killing these septic germs, provided that any substance can be found reliable for this purpose, yet not too potent as a caustic.
Joseph Lister
TECH_BREACH_LOADING
That breech loader has killed everything but a train engine, and now it's done that too.
Patrick D. Smith, A Land Remembered
TECH_NAVAL_SCIENCE
The influence of the government will be felt in its most legitimate manner in maintaining an armed navy, of a size commensurate with the growth of its shipping and the importance of the interests connected with it.
- Alfred Thayer Mahan, The Influence of Sea Power upon History
TECH_MAGAZINES
In a man-to-man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine.
-Erwin Rommel
(this is pretty good!)
TECH_AMUSEMENT_PARKS
You can design and create, and build the most wonderful place in the world. But it takes people to make the dream a reality.
We believed in our idea - a family park where parents and children could have fun- together.
Disneyland is a work of love. We didn't go into Disneyland just with the idea of making money.
-Walt Disney
TECH_HEAVY_ORDNANCE
In the drumfire, bravery no longer exists: only nerves, nerves, nerves. When anyone is exposed to such trials and tribulations he is no longer of any use as an attacker or defender.
-Anonymous German soldier about the Battle of Verdun
TECH_PENISCILIN
If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can sure make something out of you.
-Muhammad Ali
Nature makes penicillin; I just found it.
-Alexander Fleming
TECH_INNOVATIVE_WEAPON_SYSTEMS
TECH_SEMI_AUTOMATIC_WEAPONS
TECH_PARTISAN_TACTICS
By the middle of 1943 partisan resistance to the Germans and their allies had grown from the dimensions of a mere nuisance to those of a major factor in the general situation. In many parts of occupied Europe the enemy was suffering losses at the hands of partisans that he could ill afford.
-Basil Davidson
TECH_SUPERCHARGER
TECH_MANEUVER_WARFARE
TECH_ASSUALT_WEAPONS
In a man-to-man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine. -Erwin Rommel
(I think this is better for the Magazines quote though Rommel IS more a concurrent thing for where this tech will be.)
TECH_HIGH_ALTITUDE_PHOTOGRAPHY
I can see my house from here.
TECH_MILITARY_INDUSTRIALISM
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex" This is from president Eisenhower farewell speech of January 17, 1961
TECH_GUIDANCE_SYSTEMS
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
TECH_AIRCRAFT_RADAR
TECH_RADIO_JAMMING
TECH_RADAR_MINIATURIZATION
TECH_SWEPT_WING
TECH_SOCIAL_JUSTICE
It is not possible to be in favor of justice for some people and not be in favor of justice for all people
-MLK JR
TECH_DISCO
"youtu.be/mJpymZpk-t8?t=26" (I hope this does not put the video here now, just the link 26 seconds in the video)
"Did you know that disco record sales were up 400% from the year ending 1976? If these trends continue... heyyy!" "Uhm, your fish are dead" "Yeah I know, I can't get them out of there".
Disco Stu and Homer (could get youtube audio)
TECH_SPACE_PROBES
Hello from the children of planet Earth.
-Golden record aboard the Voyager probes
There is nothing so far removed from us to be beyond our reach, or so far hidden that we cannot discover it.
-Rene Descartes
Space is for everybody. It's not just for a few people in science or math, or for a select group of astronauts. That's our new frontier out there, and it's everybody's business to know about space.
-Christa McAuliffe
TECH_HARD_ROCK
TECH_FLY_BY_WIRE
TECH_VIDEO_GAMES
I think everyone can enjoy games.
-Shigeru Miyamoto
TECH_POWER_PROJECTION
I have always been fond of the West African proverb: 'Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far.'
-Theodore Roosevelt
TECH_SYNTH_POP
"I'm an engineer. I see myself as a toolmaker and the musicians are my customers... They use my tools."
~ Robert Moog
TECH_INFRARED_OPTICS
TECH_PRECISION_STRIKE
TECH_STRATEGIC_DEVELOPMENT
TECH_NIGHT_VISION
TECH_GLOBAL_POSITIONING_SYSTEMS
Right now there are thirty-one satellites zipping around the world with nothing better to do than help you find your way to the grocery store.
-Ed Burnette
TECH_GRUNGE
"With the lights out, it's less dangerous! Here we are now, entertain us!"
Curt Cobain, Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit
TECH_SPEECH_RECOGNITION
"Hello computer."
-Montgomery Scott (Star Trek: The Voyage Home https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hShY6xZWVGE)
TECH_FLIGHT_MANAGEMENT
TECH_BATTLE_SPACE_THEORY
TECH_REFLECTIVE_ENGINEERING
TECH_SMART_PHONES
"An iPod, a phone, and an internet communicator. [...] These are not three separate devices. This is one device, and we are calling it, iPhone.
-Steve Jobs from the very first iPhone presentation
TECH_COMPOSITE_ROUNDS
TECH_COMPUTER_FLIGHT_DESIGN
TECH_MODULAR_ORBITAL_CONSTRUCTION
TECH_PROGRAMABLE_FLAK
TECH_TURRET_AUTOMATION
TECH_HYPERSONIC_BALLISTICS
TECH_MAGNETIC_LAUNCH
TECH_INFORMATIONAL_WARFARE
World War III is a guerrilla information war with no division between military and civilian participation.
-Marshall McLuhan
And knowing is half the battle.
-G.I. Joe
TECH_SUPPRESSION_WEAPON_SYSTEMS
"Suppressing fire!"
Cyril Figgis (Archer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eKBcLQmyEA)
TECH_LOW_GRAVITY_ENGINEERING
TECH_MICROGENERATORS
TECH_RAPID_DESCENT_CONTROL
"Not to worry, we are still flying half a ship."
-Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
)
TECH_ELECTRICAL_WAR_ENGINES
TECH_LIGHT_RAILGUN
TECH_ORBITAL_STRIKES
Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
-Ripley, Aliens
"We now have the technology to produce a space-based weapon system which can perform the same mission for less cost. The space system is also much less vulnerable and can respond faster to any location on the globe than a dozen carrier task forces spread throughout the oceans of the world. The proposed name for this weapon is THOR, for it would literally give the United States the power to call down lightning bolts from the heavens upon its enemies" http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/planetaryattack.php#projthor3
I'm doing a bunch of new techs based on a major tech tree restructure plan to support the unit review project. It took me a while but I have ALL of these techs mapped out as to where they will go on the tree, what will be their prereqs and what they will be prereqs for - numerous movements of techs and adjustments of placement will also be taking place.
My point here is that these are baked into a plan already so are past the point of debate whether we need them or not - there is purpose to all things here. However, to implement them, I need buttons and descriptions and importantly, tech quotes.
My wife (Whisperr) is working on buttons though it's a big list for her so if anyone wants to do some, she's working on the first of them right now and we could do a claiming system to divide that project up somewhat.
The originator of many of these, David, has stated he'll help me with some descriptions on some of the harder ones to understand what they might refer to but anyone who wants to post me some pedia descriptive text is welcome to help in that regard so these can come together quickly.
The MAIN thing I want assistance with is the quotes. There's a LOT of sources for quotes online and we've had some great suggestions and we need to go through them and decide on them hopefully fairly quickly. I'm not asking for recordings yet though if we've locked down a quote then I'd love to get submissions on that, post them and post a poll on that too so that we can as a community choose the recordings we like the best. I'll be throwing my own hat into that ring for most of these as well.
Here is the current list of NEW techs along with the suggestions we have so far.
If they are bold, I've decided I really really like the quote provided and that one is now (probably) locked down but I'll give it some time and if others have a quote they like more, they can get them in right away and we can do a poll.
If italicized, we have multiple suggestions and we need to consider those we have and do a quick poll which will happen very soon so if you have another to suggest, get your comment in quick here before it goes to poll on its own thread!
If it's neither bold nor italicized, we need more submissions! We should just respond here for these if we can so that all suggests are in one place and I'll try to keep up on showing them here in the first post.
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TECH_FRONTIERING
Washington [D.C.] is not a place to live in. The rents are high, the food is bad, the dust is disgusting and the morals are deplorable. Go West, young man, go West and grow up with the country. — attributed to Horace Greeley
(perfect quote imo)
TECH_SEWING_MACHINES
The sewing machine joins what the scissors have cut asunder, plus whatever else comes in its path.
-Mason Cooley
Today I'll bake, tomorrow I'll brew,
The next I'll fetch the queen's new child;
Still no one knows it just the same,
That Rumpelstiltskin is my name.'
Today I dance alone
tomorrow with a child.
Oh, it's hard to play my game,
Rumpelstiltskin is my name!
TECH_MEDICAL_INSTRUMENTATION
When there's no place for the scalpel, words are the surgeon's only tool.
Paul Kalanithi
At first I was queasy; I'll never forget the sound of the scalpel cutting a body open. But it was so cool trying to work out how these people died.
Jonathan Davis
Let me alone: I have yet my legs and one arm. Tell the surgeon to make haste and his instruments. I know I must lose my right arm, so the sooner it's off the better.
Horatio Nelson
TECH_CRANK_WEAPONS
A Wind Up Guns scene from Futurama has been suggested - I can try to find a way to post it here
It occurred to me that if I could invent a machine gun which could by its rapidity of fire enable one man to do as much battle duty as a hundred, that it would, to a large extent, supersede the necessity of large armies, and consequently, exposure to battle and disease would be greatly diminished.
Richard Jordan Gatling
TECH_TYPEWRITERS
Give 1 million monkeys 1 million typewriters and they'll eventually type the entire works of William Shakespeare.
-Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
TECH_CEMENT
Everything in Russia is made of cement - phone booths, fence posts and light bulbs. Ian Frazier
As a child, I used to have a secret dread - and a recurring nightmare - of the whole world becoming city, being covered with cement and buildings and streets. No more country. No more woods.
William Stanley Merwin
TECH_MECHANICAL_REAPERS
TECH_PADDLEWHEEL
TECH_BARREL_RIFLING
TECH_STELLAR_PARALAX
The wonder is not that the field of stars is so vast, but that man has measured it.
Anatole France
TECH_POSTAGE
Consider the postage stamp: its usefulness consists in the ability to stick to one thing till it gets there.
-Josh Billings
Be like a postage stamp. Stick to one thing until you get there.
-Josh Billings
TECH_EVOLUTION_THEORY
Biology is the most powerful technology ever created. DNA is software, protein are hardware, cells are factories.
Arvind Gupta
Our world is built on biology and once we begin to understand it, it then becomes a technology.
- Ryan Bethencourt
Biology sometimes reveals its fundamental principles through what may seem at first to be arcane and bizarre.
- Elizabeth Blackburn
Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution.
Theodosius Dobzhansky
Evolution is the fundamental idea in all of life science - in all of biology.
Bill Nye
Biology is the science. Evolution is the concept that makes biology unique.
Jared Diamond
Biology is the study of complicated things that have the appearance of having been designed with a purpose.
Richard Dawkins
TECH_ANTISEPTICS
Bearing in mind that it is from the vitality of the atmospheric particles that all the mischief arises, it appears that all that is requisite is to dress the wound with some material capable of killing these septic germs, provided that any substance can be found reliable for this purpose, yet not too potent as a caustic.
Joseph Lister
TECH_BREACH_LOADING
That breech loader has killed everything but a train engine, and now it's done that too.
Patrick D. Smith, A Land Remembered
TECH_NAVAL_SCIENCE
The influence of the government will be felt in its most legitimate manner in maintaining an armed navy, of a size commensurate with the growth of its shipping and the importance of the interests connected with it.
- Alfred Thayer Mahan, The Influence of Sea Power upon History
TECH_MAGAZINES
In a man-to-man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine.
-Erwin Rommel
(this is pretty good!)
TECH_AMUSEMENT_PARKS
You can design and create, and build the most wonderful place in the world. But it takes people to make the dream a reality.
We believed in our idea - a family park where parents and children could have fun- together.
Disneyland is a work of love. We didn't go into Disneyland just with the idea of making money.
-Walt Disney
TECH_HEAVY_ORDNANCE
In the drumfire, bravery no longer exists: only nerves, nerves, nerves. When anyone is exposed to such trials and tribulations he is no longer of any use as an attacker or defender.
-Anonymous German soldier about the Battle of Verdun
TECH_PENISCILIN
If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can sure make something out of you.
-Muhammad Ali
Nature makes penicillin; I just found it.
-Alexander Fleming
TECH_INNOVATIVE_WEAPON_SYSTEMS
TECH_SEMI_AUTOMATIC_WEAPONS
TECH_PARTISAN_TACTICS
By the middle of 1943 partisan resistance to the Germans and their allies had grown from the dimensions of a mere nuisance to those of a major factor in the general situation. In many parts of occupied Europe the enemy was suffering losses at the hands of partisans that he could ill afford.
-Basil Davidson
TECH_SUPERCHARGER
TECH_MANEUVER_WARFARE
TECH_ASSUALT_WEAPONS
In a man-to-man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine. -Erwin Rommel
(I think this is better for the Magazines quote though Rommel IS more a concurrent thing for where this tech will be.)
TECH_HIGH_ALTITUDE_PHOTOGRAPHY
I can see my house from here.
TECH_MILITARY_INDUSTRIALISM
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex" This is from president Eisenhower farewell speech of January 17, 1961
TECH_GUIDANCE_SYSTEMS
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
TECH_AIRCRAFT_RADAR
TECH_RADIO_JAMMING
TECH_RADAR_MINIATURIZATION
TECH_SWEPT_WING
TECH_SOCIAL_JUSTICE
It is not possible to be in favor of justice for some people and not be in favor of justice for all people
-MLK JR
TECH_DISCO
"youtu.be/mJpymZpk-t8?t=26" (I hope this does not put the video here now, just the link 26 seconds in the video)
"Did you know that disco record sales were up 400% from the year ending 1976? If these trends continue... heyyy!" "Uhm, your fish are dead" "Yeah I know, I can't get them out of there".
Disco Stu and Homer (could get youtube audio)
TECH_SPACE_PROBES
Hello from the children of planet Earth.
-Golden record aboard the Voyager probes
There is nothing so far removed from us to be beyond our reach, or so far hidden that we cannot discover it.
-Rene Descartes
Space is for everybody. It's not just for a few people in science or math, or for a select group of astronauts. That's our new frontier out there, and it's everybody's business to know about space.
-Christa McAuliffe
TECH_HARD_ROCK
TECH_FLY_BY_WIRE
TECH_VIDEO_GAMES
I think everyone can enjoy games.
-Shigeru Miyamoto
TECH_POWER_PROJECTION
I have always been fond of the West African proverb: 'Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far.'
-Theodore Roosevelt
TECH_SYNTH_POP
"I'm an engineer. I see myself as a toolmaker and the musicians are my customers... They use my tools."
~ Robert Moog
TECH_INFRARED_OPTICS
TECH_PRECISION_STRIKE
TECH_STRATEGIC_DEVELOPMENT
TECH_NIGHT_VISION
TECH_GLOBAL_POSITIONING_SYSTEMS
Right now there are thirty-one satellites zipping around the world with nothing better to do than help you find your way to the grocery store.
-Ed Burnette
TECH_GRUNGE
"With the lights out, it's less dangerous! Here we are now, entertain us!"
Curt Cobain, Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit
TECH_SPEECH_RECOGNITION
"Hello computer."
-Montgomery Scott (Star Trek: The Voyage Home https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hShY6xZWVGE)
TECH_FLIGHT_MANAGEMENT
TECH_BATTLE_SPACE_THEORY
TECH_REFLECTIVE_ENGINEERING
TECH_SMART_PHONES
"An iPod, a phone, and an internet communicator. [...] These are not three separate devices. This is one device, and we are calling it, iPhone.
-Steve Jobs from the very first iPhone presentation
TECH_COMPOSITE_ROUNDS
TECH_COMPUTER_FLIGHT_DESIGN
TECH_MODULAR_ORBITAL_CONSTRUCTION
TECH_PROGRAMABLE_FLAK
TECH_TURRET_AUTOMATION
TECH_HYPERSONIC_BALLISTICS
TECH_MAGNETIC_LAUNCH
TECH_INFORMATIONAL_WARFARE
World War III is a guerrilla information war with no division between military and civilian participation.
-Marshall McLuhan
And knowing is half the battle.
-G.I. Joe
TECH_SUPPRESSION_WEAPON_SYSTEMS
"Suppressing fire!"
Cyril Figgis (Archer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eKBcLQmyEA)
TECH_LOW_GRAVITY_ENGINEERING
TECH_MICROGENERATORS
TECH_RAPID_DESCENT_CONTROL
"Not to worry, we are still flying half a ship."
-Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
TECH_ELECTRICAL_WAR_ENGINES
TECH_LIGHT_RAILGUN
TECH_ORBITAL_STRIKES
Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
-Ripley, Aliens
"We now have the technology to produce a space-based weapon system which can perform the same mission for less cost. The space system is also much less vulnerable and can respond faster to any location on the globe than a dozen carrier task forces spread throughout the oceans of the world. The proposed name for this weapon is THOR, for it would literally give the United States the power to call down lightning bolts from the heavens upon its enemies" http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/planetaryattack.php#projthor3
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