Tech Tree Discussion

I really think bringing Azure back is not the best of ideas.

Then again, I'm not involved with this mod so what do I know?
 
Little Abigail said:
I really think bringing Azure back is not the best of ideas.

Then again, I'm not involved with this mod so what do I know?
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I have tried for months now, but he does NOT respond or anyone that was working with him, sorry:blush:
 
Hydromancerx said:
@Vokarya

I talked with Praetyre in the other thread. And he suggested we move Raft building earlier and Canine Domestication later. To make a long story short please change the following ...

Raft Building
Req Techs: Simple Wood Working AND Binding
Location: x10 Y5

Canoe Building
Req Techs: Trap Fishing AND Raft Building AND Tanning AND Carpentry

Thanks in advance! :goodjob:
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Question: Canoe Building or Boat Building? Canoe Building is not a tech as far I am aware.
 
Hydromancerx said:
Sorry I ment Boat Building. Its when the Canoe unit is unlocked. Sorry for the confusion.
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No problem, just checking. I'm working my way through the Modern/Transhuman changes now; I'm updating all my spreadsheets as I go, so it's fairly painstaking work at this point. I'm not sure how far I can get by the end of this weekend.
 
Vokarya said:
No problem, just checking. I'm working my way through the Modern/Transhuman changes now; I'm updating all my spreadsheets as I go, so it's fairly painstaking work at this point. I'm not sure how far I can get by the end of this weekend.
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Thats OK , just take your time, and get it the way YOU want it, ok. thx.
 
It's finally done and committed to SVN. I finished the tweaks of the Modern Era and up.

Modern Era:
View attachment 341012

This got the most reworking, as I tried to keep the technologies in historical order.

Here is the chart of everything:
Spoiler :

Tech X-Location Y-Location Cost Prerequisites
Pop Art 68 1 6000 Animation + Consumerism + Modern Art + Plastics + Surrealism
Modern Physics 68 5 6000 Compulsory Education + Cosmology + Fission + Zeppelins
Globalization 68 9 6000 Applied Economics + Logistics
Electronics 68 13 6000 Advanced Metallurgy + Plastics + Radio
Atompunk 69 1 6300 Logistics + Modern Physics + Rocketry
Molecular Biology 69 3 6300 Modern Physics + Organic Chemistry
Aerodynamics 69 5 6300 Aviation + Modern Physics + Radar
Scientology 69 9 6300 Globalization
Television 69 11 6300 Electronics + (Motion Pictures OR Propaganda)
Computers 69 13 6300 Electronics
Manufacturing 69 19 6300 Electronics + Logistics
Biological Warfare 70 1 6600 Guerrilla Warfare + Molecular Biology
Modern Health Care 70 3 6600 Antibiotics + Molecular Biology + Refrigeration
Long-Range Forecasting 70 15 6600 Computers + Meteorology
Solar Power 70 17 6600 Hydroelectricity + Manufacturing + Modern Physics
Deep Sea Exploration 70 19 6600 Manufacturing + Marine Biology + Sonar
Jet Propulsion 71 5 6900 Aerodynamics + Manufacturing + Rocketry
Vertical Flight 71 7 6900 Aerodynamics
Mass Media 71 11 6900 Globalization + Pop Art + Television
Semiconductors 71 13 6900 Computers + Manufacturing
Nuclear Power 71 17 6900 Computers + Fission + Logistics
Laser 71 19 6900 Manufacturing + Modern Physics
Supersonic Flight 72 1 7200 Computers + Jet Propulsion + Naval Aviation
Tourism 72 7 7200 Jet Propulsion + Mass Media
Minority Rights 72 9 7200 Mass Media + Women's Suffrage
Conglomerates 72 11 7200 Manufacturing + Mass Media
Modern Seismology 72 19 7200 Deep Sea Exploration + Modern Physics
Advanced Rocketry 73 3 7500 Computers + Jet Propulsion
3D Modeling 73 11 7500 Semiconductors
Computer Networks 73 13 7500 Semiconductors
Robotics 73 15 7500 Laser + Semiconductors
Ecology 73 17 7500 Nuclear Power + Wilderness Conservation
Legalized Gambling 74 7 7800 Tourism
Modern Sports 74 9 7800 Lawn Sports + Minority Rights
Climate Models 74 11 7800 3D Modeling + Ecology + Long-Range Forecasting
Fire Suppression 74 15 7800 Ecology + Firefighting
Hydroponics 74 17 7800 Ecology
Aquaculture 74 19 7800 Ecology + Marine Biology
Modern Warfare 75 1 8100 Amphibious Warfare + Guerrilla Warfare + Mechanized Warfare + Supersonic Flight
Satellites 75 3 8100 Advanced Rocketry + Solar Power
Counterculture 75 9 8100 Ecology + Guerrilla Warfare + Minority Rights
Fiber Optics 75 11 8100 Computer Networks + Laser
Microprocessor 75 13 8100 Semiconductors + (Computer Networks OR Robotics)
Recycling 75 17 8100 Ecology
Guided Weapons 76 1 8400 Advanced Rocketry + Laser + Microprocessor + Modern Warfare
Astrogeology 76 3 8400 Modern Seismology + Satellites
Astronautics 76 5 8400 Satellites + Vertical Flight
Composites 76 9 8400 Satellites + Semiconductors
Extreme Sports 76 11 8400 Counterculture + Modern Sports + Motorsports + Tourism + Water Sports
Genetics 76 15 8400 Ecology + Microprocessor + Modern Health Care
Volcanology 77 1 8700 Astrogeology
Fuel Cells 77 3 8700 Astronautics + Composites
Stealth 77 7 8700 Composites + Modern Warfare
Ion Propulsion 77 9 8700 Astronautics + Composites
3D Printing 77 19 8700 3D Modeling + Composites
Astro Environmental Systems 78 5 9000 Astronautics + Fire Suppression
Superconductors 78 9 9000 Composites + Refrigeration
Communication Networks 78 11 9000 Fiber Optics + Globalization + Guided Weapons + Satellites
Gene Manipulation 78 15 9000 Genetics
Forensics 78 17 9000 Genetics
Space Stations 79 3 9300 Astro Environmental Systems + Recycling + Robotics
Lunar Exploration 79 5 9300 Astro Environmental Systems + Astrogeology + Radio Astronomy
Derivatives 79 11 9300 Communication Networks + Conglomerates + Legalized Gambling
Knowledge Management 79 15 9300 Communication Networks + Conglomerates
War Simulations 79 79 9300 Communication Networks
Biomaterials 80 1 9600 Aquaculture + Fuel Cells + Hydroponics
Unmanned Air Vehicles 80 7 9600 Communication Networks + Robotics + Stealth
Nanotechnology 80 9 9600 3D Modeling + Communication Networks + Superconductors
Magnetic Levitation 80 11 9600 Superconductors + (Fiber Optics OR Space Stations)
Neural Networks 80 13 9600 Communication Networks + Genetics
Virtual Reality 80 17 9600 3D Modeling + Communication Networks + Extreme Sports
Bioinformatics 81 1 9900 Biomaterials + Communication Networks + Gene Manipulation
Space Tourism 81 3 9900 Communication Networks + Ion Propulsion + Space Stations + Tourism
Planetary Exploration 81 5 9900 3D Modeling + Lunar Exploration + Robotics
Cloud Computing 81 9 9900 Knowledge Management + Nanotechnology
Superstring Theory 81 11 9900 Magnetic Levitation
Media Psychology 81 17 9900 Knowledge Management + Virtual Reality
Cloning 82 1 10200 Bioinformatics + Forensics
Astrobiology 82 3 10200 Astrogeology + Bioinformatics + Biological Warfare
Cyberwarfare 82 9 10200 Cloud Computing
Quantum Teleportation 82 11 10200 Fiber Optics + Superstring Theory
Machine Learning 82 13 10200 Cloud Computing + Neural Networks + Robotics + Virtual Reality
Wearable Computers 82 17 10200 Cloud Computing + Media Psychology


Transhuman Era:
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Not so much reworking here. I remapped the techs so that the columns match up with the distance needed to research the tech. I pruned a few redundancies and I added a new cost scheme.

Spoiler :
Tech X-Location Y-Location Cost Prerequisites
Biopunk 83 1 10500 Biological Warfare + Cloning
Advanced Molecular Biology 83 3 10500 Bioinformatics
Unmanned Naval Vehicles 83 7 10500 Aquaculture + Deep Sea Exploration + Unmanned Air Vehicles
Online Community 83 15 10500 Wearable Computers
Digital Warfare 83 17 10500 War Simulations + Wearable Computers
Biomechanical Harvesting 84 1 10700 Cloning + Extreme Sports
Biomathematics 84 3 10700 Biomaterials
Ecological Engineering 84 5 10700 Biofuels + Climate Models + Fire Suppression + Volcanology
Exoplanet Discovery 84 9 10700 Cloud Computing + Radio Astronomy + Superstring Theory
Rapid Prototyping 84 15 10700 3D Printing + Knowledge Management
Flash Memory 84 19 10700 Wearable Computers
Military Robotics 85 1 10900 Biomechanical Harvesting + Cyberwarfare + Machine Learning + Unmanned Air Vehicles
Molecular Medicine 85 3 10900 Biomathematics + Cloning
Commercial Spaceflight 85 9 10900 Exoplanet Discovery + Space Tourism + Unmanned Air Vehicles
Imaginary Physics 85 11 10900 Advanced Molecular Biology + Exoplanet Discovery
Automated Traffic 85 15 10900 Machine Learning + Rapid Prototyping
Powered Exoskeleton 85 19 10900 Flash Memory + Machine Learning
Disaster Robots 86 1 11100 Fire Suppression + Military Robotics
Genome Encyclopedia 86 3 11100 Molecular Medicine + Online Community
Metamaterials 86 7 11100 Biomathematics + Imaginary Physics + Stealth
Organic Photonics 86 11 11100 Flash Memory + Imaginary Physics
Direct Merchandising 86 15 11100 Automated Traffic + Online Community
Micromechanics 86 17 11100 Biomathematics + Flash Memory + Imaginary Physics
Asteroid Belt Probes 87 1 11300 Commercial Spaceflight + Military Robotics + Organic Photonics
Replacement Organs 87 3 11300 Genome Encyclopedia + Metamaterials + Micromechanics
Genesis Biology 87 5 11300 Astrobiology + Genome Encyclopedia + Machine Learning + Organic Photonics
Brain-Machine Interface 87 7 11300 Molecular Medicine + Organic Photonics
Augmented Reality 87 11 11300 Biomathematics + Machine Learning + Organic Photonics
Controlled Plasma 87 13 11300 Organic Photonics
Virtual Society 87 15 11300 Digital Warfare + Direct Mechandising
Microgenerators 87 17 11300 Biomechanical Harvesting + Micromechanics + Organic Photonics
Asteroid Mining 88 1 11500 Asteroid Belt Probes + Controlled Plasma + Powered Exoskeleton
Jovian Exploration 88 3 11500 Asteroid Belt Probes
Marine Architecture 88 5 11500 Genesis Biology + Unmanned Naval Vehicles
Affective Algorithms 88 7 11500 Automated Traffic + Brain-Machine Interface + Genome Encyclopedia + Powered Exoskeleton
Personalized Health 88 11 11500 Brain-Machine Interface + Replacement Organs
Graphene Alloys 88 13 11500 Controlled Plasma + Metamaterials + Micromechanics
Advanced Environmental Systems 89 1 11700 Commercial Spaceflight + Marine Architecture
Advanced Digital Warfare 89 5 11700 Affective Algorithms + Microgenerators + Military Robotics
Thought Scanning 89 7 11700 Affective Algorithms
Liquid Metals 89 9 11700 Genesis Biology + Graphene Alloys
Fusion 89 11 11700 Graphene Alloys + Microgenerators
Railgun 89 13 11700 Graphene Alloys + Microgenerators + Military Robotics
Ubiquitous Computing 89 17 11700 Affective Algorithms + Augmented Reality + Microgenerators + Military Robotics
Lunar Colonization 90 1 11900 Advanced Environmental Systems
Nanogenerators 90 9 11900 Liquid Metals
Mass Driver 90 13 11900 Asteroid Mining + Railgun
Hypersonic Flight 90 15 11900 Ubiquitous Computing
Mesh Networks 90 17 11900 Ubiquitous Computing
Gene Enhancement 90 19 11900 Personalized Health + Ubiquitous Computing
Lunar Manufacturing 91 1 12100 Lunar Colonization + Powered Exoskeleton
Holographics 91 7 12100 Mesh Networks + Nanogenerators
Megacorporations 91 17 12100 Mesh Networks
Gene Jurisprudence 91 19 12100 Gene Enhancement
Lunar Tourism 92 3 12300 Lunar Colonization
Plastic Electronics 92 9 12300 Nanogenerators
Internal Shockwave Engine 92 11 12300 Fusion + Hypersonic Flight + Liquid Metals
Automated Services 92 13 12300 Disaster Robots + Mesh Networks
Ontological Engineering 92 15 12300 Mesh Networks + Thought Scanning + Virtual Society
Solar Propulsion 93 3 12500 Asteroid Mining + Lunar Tourism
Nanoelectronics 93 9 12500 Plastic Electronics
Warmachines 93 11 12500 Advanced Digital Warfare + Internal Shockwave Engine + Mesh Networks + Railgun
Automated Urbanization 93 13 12500 Automated Services + Ontological Engineering
Biomimetics 93 15 12500 Ontological Engineering
Novus Chemistry 93 17 12500 Ontological Engineering
Rapid Recuperation 93 19 12500 Gene Jurisprudence
Magnetic Sails 94 3 12700 Solar Propulsion
Wireless Electricty 94 5 12700 Automated Urbanization + Holographics + Nanogenerators
Nanobotics 94 7 12700 Nanoelectronics
Advanced Computers 94 9 12700 Automated Urbanization + Nanogenerators
Vertical Farming 94 13 12700 Automated Urbanization
Bionics 94 17 12700 Nanogenerators + Rapid Recuperation
Anti-Aging Medicine 94 19 12700 Nanogenerators + Ontological Engineering + Rapid Recuperation
Supersonic Rails 95 3 12900 Wireless Electricity
Accelerated Germination 95 5 12900 Novus Chemistry + Vertical Farming + Wireless Electricity
Interactive Glass 95 7 12900 Plastic Electronics + Wireless Electricity
Superstrong Alloys 95 15 12900 Advanced Computers + (Biomimetics OR Invisibility)
Exocortex Networks 95 17 12900 Bionics + Novus Chemistry + Wireless Electricity
Smart Drugs 95 19 12900 Anti-Aging Medicine
Skyroads 96 3 13100 Novus Chemistry + Wireless Electricity
Environmental Economics 96 7 13100 Advanced Computers
Artificial Intelligence 96 9 13100 Advanced Computers + Bionics + Novus Chemistry + Wireless Electricity
Androids 96 11 13100 Advanced Computers + Biomimetics
Quantum Computing 96 13 13100 Advanced Computers + Quantum Teleportation
Regenerative Medicine 96 19 13100 Anti-Aging Medicine
Orbital Flight 97 1 13300 Advanced Computers + Skyroads
Antigrav 97 5 13300 Artificial Intelligence + Skyroads
Universal Translator 97 9 13300 Artificial Intelligence
Planetary Economics 97 11 13300 Androids + Environmental Economics + Fusion + Megacorporations + Nanobotics
Cyberimmunology 97 17 13300 Artificial Intelligence + Exocortex Networks
DNA Computing 97 19 13300 Advanced Computers + Biomimetics + Regenerative Medicine
Invisibility 98 1 13500 Orbital Flight
Personal Robots 98 9 13500 Androids + Plastic Electronics + Universal Translator
Lunar Trade 98 11 13500 Mass Driver + Orbital Flight + Planetary Economics + Solar Propulsion
Cybernetics 98 17 13500 Bionics + Cyberimmunology
Artificial Photosynthesis 99 3 13700 Accelerated Germination + Interactive Glass + Invisibility
Cyberpunk 99 15 13700 Androids + Cybernetics
Species Uplifting 99 17 13700 Cybernetics + Universal Translator
Homo Superior 100 17 13900 Biomimetics + Species Uplifting

Galactic Era:
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I tried not to do very much here, as I really don't understand this era very well. I mostly moved things over to make room on the tree for spreading out the Modern and Transhuman Eras. The early techs got moved 5 columns over, then I compressed a very large gap in the center of the era and moved the later techs only 3 columns. I didn't even try to do a new cost scheme.

Spoiler :
Tech X-Location Y-Location Cost Prerequisites
Megastructure Engineering 101 3 15000 Superstrong Alloys
Smart Dust 101 9 11200 Nanoelectronics
Artificial Evolution 101 15 20000 Cybernetics + Personal Robots + Regenerative Medicine
Cryogenics 101 17 15000 Homo Superior + Smart Drugs
Orbital Megastructures 103 1 72000 Advanced Environmental Systems + Antigrav + Megastructure Engineering
Shielding 103 3 18000 Fusion + Megastructure Engineering
Mind Uploading 103 5 20500 Artificial Evolution
Organic Cities 103 7 20000 Environmental Economics + Megastructure Engineering + Vertical Farming
Nanomining 103 11 14000 Nanobotics + Smart Dust
Optronics 103 13 13200 Nanobotics + Quantum Computing + Smart Dust
Artificial Life 103 15 21000 Artificial Photosynthesis + DNA Computing + (Artificial Evolution OR Homo Superior)
Advanced Shielding 105 3 19400 Shielding
Advanced Warmachines 105 5 18000 Megastructure Engineering + Warmachines
Photonic Satellites 105 7 7200 Orbital Megastructures + Optronics
Terra Computer 105 9 21000 Ecological Engineering + Mind Uploading + Optronics
Asteroid Extraction 107 3 15000 Nanomining + Orbital Megastuctures
Planetary Defenses 107 5 26000 Advanced Warmachines + Photonic Satellites + Shielding
Sentient Earth 107 9 22000 Artificial Life + Terra Computer
Weather Control 107 13 22000 Climate Models + Terra Computer
Subterranean Exploration 107 15 14000 Advanced Shielding + Astro Environmental Systems + Nanomining + Volcanology
Lunar Megastructures 109 1 72000 Lunar Manufacturing + Lunar Tourism + Orbital Megastructures
Solar Ordnance 109 3 26000 Planetary Defenses + Solar Propulsion
Planetary Colonization 109 5 18200 Asteroid Extraction + Planetary Exploration + Solar Propulsion
Planetary Extraction 110 1 20000 Planetary Colonization
Planetary Trade 110 3 22000 Lunar Trade + Magnetic Sails + Planetary Colonization
Planetary Megastructures 110 5 72000 Lunar Megastructures + Planeary Colonization
Nuclear Pulse Propulsion 110 9 27000 Planetary Colonization
Extraterrestrial Agriculture 110 13 17000 Planetary Colonization + Vertical Farming
Planetary Manufacturing 111 1 20000 Planetary Extraction
Colony Arcology 111 5 21000 Extraterrestrial Agriculture + Organic Cities + Planetary Megastructures + Shielding
Astroecology 111 11 22000 Artificial Life + Subterranean Exploration
Launch Arcology 112 5 28000 Advanced Shielding + Colony Arcology + Nuclear Pulse Propulsion + Planetary Manufacturing
Planetary Terraforming 112 9 24000 Astroecology + Planetary Megastructures + Weather Control
Attometer Engineering 113 5 34000 Launch Arcology + Planetary Terraforming
VASIMR Propulsion 113 7 32000 Launch Arcology
Lunar Terraforming 113 9 25000 Planetary Terraforming
Planetary Engineering 114 3 48000 Attometer Engineering + Lunar Terraforming
Interstellar Trade 114 7 72000 Cryogenics + Planetary Trade + VASIMR Propulsion
Atomization Field 114 9 52000 Attometer Engineering
Artificial Planets 115 3 68000 Planetary Engineering
Interstellar Colonization 115 5 74000 Interstellar Trade + Mind Uploading
ACNP Propulsion 115 7 67000 Interstellar Trade + Quantum Computing
Weaponized Disintegration 115 9 50000 Atomization Field + Solar Ordnance
Teleportation 115 11 22000 Atomization Field + Quantum Computing
Artificial Stars 116 1 86000 Artificial Planets
Advanced Seedships 116 5 66000 ACNP Propulsion + Interstellar Colonization
Antimatter Rocket 116 7 75000 ACNP Propulsion + Interstellar Colonization
Astroanthropology 116 13 55000 Astroecology + Interstellar Colonization + Sentient Earth
Singularity Stabilization 117 1 125000 Antimatter Rocket + Artificial Stars
Weaponized Antimatter 117 7 70000 Antimatter Rocket + Weaponized Disintegration
Wormhole Communications 118 1 145000 Singularity Stabilization
Transtangible Neutrino Accelerators 118 3 154000 Singularity Stabilization
Megastrong Alloys 118 7 14000 Singularity Stabilization + Weaponized Antimatter
Wormhole Travel 119 5 186000 Megastrong Alloys + Teleportation + Transtangible Neutrino Accelerators + Wormhole Communications
Time Travel 120 5 246000 Wormhole Traversal
Folding Space 120 7 752000 Wormhole Traversal
Galactic Federation 120 13 90000 Advanced Seedships + Astroanthropology + Wormhole Communications
Ascension 121 3 36000 Galactic Federation + Time Travel
Dualflux Quantum Temporal Rift 121 5 1452000 Time Travel
Space Creasing 121 7 862000 Folding Space
Transverse Euclidean Geometry 122 7 1862000 Dualflux Quantum Temporal Rift + Space Creasing
Endogenous Euclidean Propulsion 123 7 1542000 Ascension + Transverse Euclidean Geometry
Euclidean 5-Space Geometry 124 7 2542000 Ascension + Transverse Euclidean Geometry
String Analysis 125 7 2904000 Endogenous Euclidean Propulsion + Euclidean Five-Space Geometry

This is all on the SVN now, so please let me know if I missed anything. Otherwise, I'm finished.
 
Well done Vokarya! You've again gifted us all with your very professional level expertise and analysis skills. Thank you! Our mod is better for your contributions and always will be.
 
Yes Vokarya,
Even if you just have to stay to give advice for a while, please keep it up, you are most awesome and appreciated!

With your help C2C will quickly reach the next level of wow!
 
I just wanted to post a updated thread on technologies that are predicted to be the the immediate horizon. Hopefully you will find some of these useful.
Gartner's 2012 Hype Cycle for Emerging Technologies Identifies "Tipping Point" Technologies That Will Unlock Long-Awaited Technology Scenarios
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?buffer_share=79298&id=2124315

These are used by businesses to anticipate near-future trends.
 
Hydromancerx said:
@Vokarya

As far as I can tell it looks good. :D Thanks a TON for doing this.

EDIT: Where did Motor Sports get moved to? I assume maybe like near where the Prohibition Rum Runner were.

EDIT2: Is Advanced Molecular Biology new?
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Motor Sports is an Industrial Era tech now. Location X62 Y17 (just below Mass Transit, right next to Motorized Transportation).

Advanced Molecular Biology is the tech originally known as Neurotechnology. I'm fairly sure it's one of the Azure techs, but that was what we settled on as a name. I think we rolled a couple of technologies together into that one.
 
strategyonly said:
Couple of Minor questions for ya (see screenies) thx.
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Good catch on Supersonic Rails. It doesn't currently lead to anything. Does anyone have any ideas what it should lead to? I think Megastructure Engineering is the best bet, but if anyone has a better idea, I can go with that.

Regarding Asteroid Mining: Did you update your Text files folder? There's a new text file for that tech. It works just fine on my version. (Apparently, there are files for an Asteroid Mining tech in one of the ATOM text files, but I like mine better.)
 
ls612 said:
@Vokarya:

Really good job on all of this, I'm really sorry that you are leaving. Feel free to come back anytime, your work is always appreciated. :goodjob:
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Ditto . . . SO
 
Vokarya said:
Motor Sports is an Industrial Era tech now. Location X62 Y17 (just below Mass Transit, right next to Motorized Transportation).

Advanced Molecular Biology is the tech originally known as Neurotechnology. I'm fairly sure it's one of the Azure techs, but that was what we settled on as a name. I think we rolled a couple of technologies together into that one.
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1. Cool thanks.

2. Ah ok. I must have never added it to my online tech tree. Good thing you were going over these again.
 
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