Term 3 - The Office of the Judiciary - The Fanatikan Rule of Law

[Shaitan]

The schedule will stand as nobody (myself or the T4 President) is allowed to change it. As it is in T4 GMT it should be run by the T4 President. This was a scheduling snafu on my part as my overloaded grey matter wasn't wrapping around the time/date difference.

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Shaitan can schedule the chat at that time, however the new President is free to set the schedule as they wish, and may well wish to announce in advance that they will not be using that time.

 

[Shaitan]

This Sunday the new Pres will be able to set the schedule for the following week. He will not be able to alter the already scheduled chat for this week.

I. Game Schedule 
   1.  The President will post a [b]fixed schedule[/b] of game times. 
       a.  Example: 23:00 GMT on Monday, Wednesday and Saturday. 
       b.  This schedule may be updated each Sunday for the following week’s games. 
       c.  If not updated, the existing schedule carries over week to week.

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

I could easily interpret that section as saying that the incoming President has the authority to set those times in the first place.

Just as you were able to impose the times you wished during your term, you are specifically not able to impost times on the next term.

 

[Shaitan]

Of course he does. For the next week. There is nothing that allows any president to change a schedule that has been set. The Pres can only change future schedules and can only do that on a Sunday. If it was otherwise, I would have corrected the time myself and we wouldn't have a problem.

 

[Veera Anlai]

This schedule may be updated each Sunday for the following week’s games.

Sorry Shai, but that little 'may' allows him to set the schedule at whenever time he wants, according to the wonderful world of semantics Otherwise, it would be 'must.'

My opinion as Chief Justice elect would be that the December 1st Turn Chat is not legal, as it impinges on the right of our Term 4 President to set the schedule for Turn Chats and to be the DP of Turn Chats. However, if the Term 4 President wishes to adopt that schedule and follow it, that's entirely up to him.

Edit: Changed Term 5 to Term 4. Thanks for pointing that out Stuck

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

Veera: Were entering Term 4. Other then that, I agree with every thing you said

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

I want to wish Veera good luck as she takes over the role of Chief Justice.

I am confident that the Judiciary will be in good hands.

Bill
Almost a Governor of a Soon to be Named Province

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Originally posted by Shaitan
Of course he does. For the next week. There is nothing that allows any president to change a schedule that has been set. The Pres can only change future schedules and can only do that on a Sunday. If it was otherwise, I would have corrected the time myself and we wouldn't have a problem.

Conversely, there is nothing that allows the current President to impose his or her will on the incoming President, as you did inadvertantly by scheduling the chat into Ek or Octavians term.

That is an illegal order, and not valid in my opinion.

 

[Cyc]

* Cyc steps in *

The way I see it, people who want to attend the t/c have already set the scheduled time as THE time. Therefore it would be unwise and maybe inconsiderate to change the t/c schedule at this time. I really don't care who's legally correct here, that's the way I see it.
I think the t/c was scheduled at this time to make it convienent for the VP to play. That same person MAY be VP again. So if this occurs, I don't see a major problem. If the President elect wants to make a formal announcement about how he is going to bump up the t/c time to an earlier time, that may be workable, again I don't see a major problem. If someone here wants to cancel the t/c, then i can see a major problem.

People, we are talking about a time line here. It's an imaginary line on a map to determine the time of day in a certain location. Earlier in the week we were arguing over the name of a city, now we're arguing over the time of day. Let's stop and take a deep breath, FIND OUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT-ELECT HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT, and play the game.

 

[naervod]

However, Eklektikos, or whoever is elected President may change it between 12 and 3 AM, since it is Sunday for him. If the Term 4 President does not change it then the time stands and the chat will go as scheduled with Term 3 DP. So, if Ekelektikos wants to change the t/c time then it has to be between 12 and 3 AM GMT.

 

[Eklektikos]

Octavian has already stated that he will be unable to act as DP at the coming TC, and I am not willing to start one at 3am. As such, I have decided that if I am the elected president come 00:01 GMT, I will be rescheduling the TC for 00:15am GMT, 2hours and 45 minutes earlier than currently scheduled. Since it will be sunday by that time I will arguably be within my rights to do so.

 

[Cyc]

Good. Thank you for declaring, Ek. Please post this statement all over the Demogame forums!

 

[Shaitan]

Notice - Change in COS

The Judiciary has been given tie-breaking power in trial and sentencing polls for PI's. LINK

 

[Donovan Zoi]

***Donovan Zoi peeks his head in the door***

Um, excuse me, gentlemen....I know this is a bad time, but are we supposed to use turn chat instructions from the Term 3 council or the yet-to-be elected Term 4 council?? The way it stands now, President Eklektikos will be taking direction from Eklektikos the Domestic Leader. Also, with a 00:15GMT start time, I would only have 15 minutes to get my SW Province build queues in place. Just wondering.....

***slams door, runs***

 

[Shaitan]

Posted instructions from the T3 Leaders are valid for the chat but may be overruled by a new T4 Leader as these T4 Leaders will be the sitting department heads at the time of the chat.

 

[Veera Anlai]

I want to wish Veera good luck as she takes over the role of Chief Justice.

Thank you for your confidence Bill. It really does mean a lot to me ^_^

 

[Shaitan]

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