Sisiutil
All Leader Challenger
If he wins this one, I bet he won't go back
You're probably right.
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You're probably right.
Agreed. It's only natural to be a bit cautious at first, but practice makes perfect, and after winning a game at a certain level you would normally know you can handle it (unless you won because you got incredibly lucky, and you know it).If he wins this one, I bet he won't go back
Then let's not forget about the prestige...
Lord Parkin
aka emperor
I hadn't noticed that second post myself, actually. Interesting to see we're not even halfway through the leaders yet! Looks like a long (and exciting!) road ahead.Reading the first page sometimes helps
Sis, you must be thankful there's not another expansion pack planned, else you might never finish.
Churchill's Hat
Mortal
No, no, no! Move the scout one east onto the other hill, as there is less forest around there.
Then settle in place.But seriously, be sure to be aggressive in the Boudica game. You could see in Hammy where everything went right after you attacked Saladin-- Boudica lends herself to being able to attack earlier, thus gaining the advantage earlier.
Dr Yes
Definitely hooked
Let's just hope, for historical accuracy, that she ends up next to Rome. Kind of fair, too, with the UUs. Find the Iron!
Come on, Sis, you can take a few days off the game, but give us a starting position (with the scout move) so we can start parliamentary deliberations.
Sisiutil
All Leader Challenger
I'll try to start the pre-game thread tomorrow, the game thread on the weekend.
Boudica's traits are good; if utilized, that is. If our Civ is isolated or dozens of tiles away from the nearest opponent, they will have to wait, of course.
The Uniques, on the other hand, is best not focused on at all. Like defensive Archers, you can use Gallic Warriors to choke a Civ perhaps, but not much else. Basically, Copper/iron effectively shuts down GWs... which is to say "rather easy to shut down" when you consider how late it is when you can start building them (who beelines Iron Working just to get these guys?) And don't get me started on the Dun - it very well doesn't get any more defensive than a Wall, does it? (Sis has sworn off the Gold Wall trick)
(The Aztecs, whose Swordsmen are similarly hosed, can at least use their UU to double up as rather effective Medics, with that easy-to-get Woodsman III promo: a Medic in every stack! And their UB is quite unlike the Dun, that is to say very good and very versatile!)
So play your Boudica game without necessarily having your UU and UB foremost in mind. This is definitely one of those cases where the ALC series is best served by not getting distracted by your uniques... focus on Boudica's traits instead (no, not her visual ones) and use your regular units to great effect instead (Axemen, War Elephants, Catapults, you know the drill...)
(Let's hope Sisiutil doesn't get the build-swordsmen quest... )
The Uniques, on the other hand, is best not focused on at all. Like defensive Archers, you can use Gallic Warriors to choke a Civ perhaps, but not much else. Basically, Copper/iron effectively shuts down GWs... which is to say "rather easy to shut down" when you consider how late it is when you can start building them (who beelines Iron Working just to get these guys?) And don't get me started on the Dun - it very well doesn't get any more defensive than a Wall, does it? (Sis has sworn off the Gold Wall trick)
(The Aztecs, whose Swordsmen are similarly hosed, can at least use their UU to double up as rather effective Medics, with that easy-to-get Woodsman III promo: a Medic in every stack! And their UB is quite unlike the Dun, that is to say very good and very versatile!)
So play your Boudica game without necessarily having your UU and UB foremost in mind. This is definitely one of those cases where the ALC series is best served by not getting distracted by your uniques... focus on Boudica's traits instead (no, not her visual ones) and use your regular units to great effect instead (Axemen, War Elephants, Catapults, you know the drill...)
(Let's hope Sisiutil doesn't get the build-swordsmen quest...
)Willem is certanly too early so maybe pericles, survayreman or ghandi for the flip to deity? Oh and i would be happy if you followed some advice on early game MM(read my message on msn). Also funny how much easier it was to get from emperor to immortal in btw compared to monarch to emperor in warlords. Long time since last cultural vic, maybe willem will be one? Doubt boudica's traits lead themselves to that VC.. Also about map. Why not try something different like highlands or global highlands(i am thinking snaky continents). Would certanly shake things up and would fit nicely with boudica.
Gliese 581
Your average civ junkie
I think it's a bit early to rule out Gallic Swordsmen. They are not always a great improvement over regular swordsmen but sometimes you get gold/silver or gems and have a great tech rate, swordsmen can be very useful then in attacking a neighbour civ. They are a huge improvement vs archers over axes after all.
Also, you might be stuck with no copper and have to look for iron. In any case I find Gallic Swordsmen to typically be much more useful than Jaguars but opinions may vary.
Also, you might be stuck with no copper and have to look for iron. In any case I find Gallic Swordsmen to typically be much more useful than Jaguars but opinions may vary.
r_rolo1
King of myself
Guerrilla III gallic warriors( and later maces ) are perfect for attacking hills cities , and given the BtS AI preferences in that regard ......
About map..... why not global highlands? It is a interesting script, in spite of being sometimes harsh.....
About map..... why not global highlands?
It is a interesting script, in spite of being sometimes harsh.....Dr Elmer Jiggle
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Shouldn't this discussion be in the pregame thread instead of here? I think we're wandering off topic ...
Dr Yes
Definitely hooked
Just feels like the audience is getting pumped up before the rock stars enter the stage.
This is the pre pregame thread discussion...
JTMacc99
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Heh. ::chanting:: Sisiutil! Sisiutil! Sisiutil!
The global highlands IS an interesting idea. It makes the Dun a heck of a lot more interesting. I'd say it's more like making sure Vikings aren't on a Pangea map than it would be the overkill of making sure the Dutch are on a water map. The G1 promotion for all archery and gunpowder units would suddenly be an outstanding addition. I picture prioritizing Feudalism, and building a pile of GIII longbows for a very unique unit, that can move like lightning through the hills, attack with the ability to withdraw from combat, and be damn near impossible to kill once fortified in a city on a hill.
On the other hand, that's probably kind of a nutty thing to try at such a high difficulty level.
JammerUno
King
Getting units the march promotion at 13 xp is great as well, mix in a unit with woodsmen3 medic3 and the assault never pauzes
Julian Delphiki
Anton's key
Yep i think that aggressive AI would be a good choice since with Boudicea there _will_ be much war, though i dunno how much it slowers AI's on such high level. Lots and lots of units and war weariness i presume..
