The Ancient Mediterranean MOD

Do we have Islam? The Islamic Expansion did not create such a Holy Empire because they somehow accepted foreign religions, though preventing the spread of it
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As far as I know, there was no such thing as Islam until the 7th or 8th century. This scenario ends in the 6th century..
 
Locutus said:
Thanks guys! I had already given up on finding anything to use as Battering Ram when Notarzt made me jump of my chair in excitement, and some of that building art is looking mighty good as well :)



Glad I could be of help.

By now, I've compiled a list of wonders for my mod. I'm not terribly happy with some choices, I'll definitely need a second pass at it, but I wanna get some playtesting in first. Until then I figure I could at least share what I have with you guys, it might give you some ideas. Note that my scenario is set in the early Iron Age so nothing's much newer than 500 BC, beyond that you're on you're own :)

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Wonder				Suggested Effect	City		Built
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Great Pyramid			Great Pyramid		Thebes		2600 BC
Epic of Gilgamesh		Heroic Epic		(Babylonia)	2000 BC
Etemenanki/Tower of Babel	Angkor Wat		Babylon		2000 BC
Great Royal Palace		Versailles		Assur		1800 BC
Tumilat Canal			Collosus		Pithom/Bubastis	1800 BC
Defuffa of Kerma		Stonehenge		Kerma		1700 BC
Labyrinth			Sistine Chapel		Knossos		1700 BC
Valley of the Kings		Hagia Sophia		Memphis		1600 BC
Oracle				Oracle			Delphi		1400 BC
Lion Gate			Pentagon		Hattusas	1350 BC
Walls of Tyre			Chichen Itza		Tyre		1000 BC
Great Ziggurat			Spiral Minaret		Calah (Nimrud)	850 BC
Harbors of Carthage		Great Lighthouse	Carthage	814 BC
Palace of Sennacherib		Kremlin			Nineveh		700 BC
Library of Ashurbanipal		Great Library		Nineveh		650 BC
Hanging Gardens			Hanging Gardens		Babylon		600 BC
(Iliad &) Odyssey		National Epic		(Greece)	600 BC
Temple of Artemis		Notre Dame		Ephesus		550 BC
Apadana				Taj Mahal		Persepolis	518 BC
Parthenon			Parthenon		Athens		438 BC
Statue of Zeus			Statue of Liberty	Olympia		435 BC
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Good wonder list. We're currently working on ours, and I'll let you know what we come up with. What strikes me about yours: You are replacing two ancient wonders (Great Library of Alexandria and Colossus of Rhodes). Why?
 
thamis said:
Good wonder list. We're currently working on ours, and I'll let you know what we come up with. What strikes me about yours: You are replacing two ancient wonders (Great Library of Alexandria and Colossus of Rhodes). Why?
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Also, I would rather use the Ishtar Gate (of Uruk? Nineveh?) rather than the Lion Gate of Hattusas). More famous. :)
 
I thinked it : where is Etruria on TAM map
 
thamis said:
Good wonder list. We're currently working on ours, and I'll let you know what we come up with. What strikes me about yours: You are replacing two ancient wonders (Great Library of Alexandria and Colossus of Rhodes). Why?
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Too new. They're both 3rd century BC, I set 500 BC as latest date I'd allow for any feature in my scenario (it actually plays in about 1350-1200 BC). As you can see, I broke my own rule twice, but that's because pre-500 BC wonders that are not (too blatantly) palaces or temples are hard to come by.

I will definitely be interested in seeing what you guys can come up with (and how much of it I might be able to rip, conceptually or graphically ;))

As for Lion Gate, I used it because I already have like 8 Mesopotamian wonders (out of 20 total) and I was lacking any Hittite ones, while the Hittites are one of the most important civs in my scenario :) Unfortunately very little Hittite architecture remains or is known, so the choice is rather limited (it was either the Lion Gate or yet another palace or temple).

It's Babylon BTW ;)
 
and, you'll never guess it, another building is assumes shape: the

HOLY SITE

holysite_screenshot.jpg

My first building with shadows.
Thanks a lot to thamis and onedreamer for ideas how to design it.
 
Lachlan said:
I thinked it : where is Etruria on TAM map
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It was removed. Now Rome can expand fully :)
 
BenGee171 said:
Romans ever tryed to tell other folks what they have to belive. and thats cause i hate them, cause they lie and they lie and they lie and tell others that this is the true. the deformed the evangelium. they deformed the religion jesus had, to make their imperialism polytheism religion out of it. orthodox christians never told that jesus is god and said that maria is the mother of god. that are lies the romans developed in their fanatism. [...]
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sorry but this is all just false. I don't know who taught you what you wrote, but it's not true. First off, the Romans were able to build up a huge empire exactly for the opposite reason: they didn't try to delete other people's cultures. Actually they assimilated everything they liked from them. And they never imposed their culture, although there might have been cases in which they prohibited certain practices if I remember well, because they could be used to provoke unrests. They didn't deform the evangelium or Jesus' "religion", they just thought he was an imposer and a cause of unrest, sort of a modern terrorist. And please, until you can prove the contrary (which is, God really exists and Jesus was sent on Earth by him to save humanity...), post this kind of matter in the OT forum where there are a lot of discussions about matters like religion, faith, etc. and in no way you can post it here as a historical fact.
To diffuse the story of Jesus and Maria and whatnot were the apostoles, not the "Romans". On top of this, you are confusing Orthodox with Jewish, which are two different things.

The only thing you were right about is: lies. But that makes me smile, honestly. First, if Romans lied, they lied to other Romans before than other civilizations. But this is a common practice of politicians. Do you think that our politicians are not lying or hiding stuff to us 24/7 ? LOL. Mass Media also lie 24/7, and what's worse is that often the news they got is also already a lie.
At least I don't remember which roman VIP blatantly admitted that for them, religion was just a mean to control the crowds.
 
Notarzt said:
and, you'll never guess it, another building is assumes shape: the

HOLY SITE

View attachment 119742

My first building with shadows.
Thanks a lot to thamis and onedreamer for ideas how to design it.
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superb work !
 
thamis said:
Also, I would rather use the Ishtar Gate (of Uruk? Nineveh?) rather than the Lion Gate of Hattusas). More famous. :)
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The Ishtar Gate was in Babylon... which you would know by heart if you had ever read 'The Dragon of the Ishtar Gate' by L. Sprague de Camp :D . Great book, BTW.
 
Hi what you guys are doing is great
I tried the mod and its working almost fine i can't wait for it to be finalized
Every thing seems well thought through, tech tree UU etc...
I have noticed a few minor glitches in the first contact text with Arminius and Vercingetorix, i was playing as Rome.
Also i now regret it not taking a screen shot when i started building one of the first obelix available i think the one that gives 2 culture
a bright light beam appeared alot like a projector illuminating the sky,
for my second city it stayed there for as long as i played.
I saw it appear in Rome too but just for a little while.
i noticed you changed the fishing tech order in the tech tree great job:)
Keep up the good work :goodjob: i like alot
PS
If you can make Rome really strong i would like it but i think you guys know best how to balance this mod and
 
It would be nice to change the cities estructures to a classical forum style... I know it is a lot of work, but it would be so great...
 
elhoim said:
It would be nice to change the cities estructures to a classical forum style... I know it is a lot of work, but it would be so great...
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I'm sure that we will design a few TAM-specific era city-styles. There are just other priorities atm.
 
It would be great that Firaxis develop them... I miss the different cities styles from Civ III, as they gave so much more inmersion...
 
It would also be nice if they (firaxis) or we changed the style of the cottages improvements as well........but I'm sure it's on the list as well.

Continue the great work!
 
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