The axeman cometh

[RandomLeader]

I have often tried something stupid and it has always failed (well I succeeded this at prince sometimes). I have made early rush and kept the war going untill feudalism. Then I have tried to capitulate when there would be still little land for AI to expand. No matter what, they don't capitulate untill neighboring AI's get that tech (and it is quite soon.. usually little earlier than me) and after that they capitulate.. to some other AI which they hated just a moment ago. Is this all just stupid or would it be possible to accomplish? On the other hand.. whats the use of this kind of weak vassal..

 

[gettingfat]

Purpose of axe rush? Any aggressive AIs will eventually become your enemies unless you play really carefully and lucky, so kill them first before they kill you. Besides, capitals usually take great city spots, with a great chance being holy cities as well. I'd trade one capital for 2 to 3 average cities.

 

[Dan Quale]

If I rush It will be by 2000 bc, any later and you might as well not bother really, as hammers invested could have been spent on settlers/workers/infastructure more effectively, then wasting troops on cultural defenses.
Chopping is the best way to get a lot of stuff really fast early on, well maybe im obsessed with chopping. I even chopped a spaceship in one game(lumbermills to mines to complete the whole thing insanely fast)

Those hammers just come so quickly with 4 workers chopping you can usually have an axemen horde while the enemy still has around 4-5 total archers(immortal difficulty).

 

[Airefuego]

If you are having trouble with the axeman rush, I suggest you practice. Like this:

Go Duel Pangea map. You know you only have one enemy. Go and find him and make peace. Build probably one more city max. Get BW, go to slavery, and build a barracks and about 8 axemen as fast as you can, chopping every tree you can find and whipping the living **** out of your miserable population every chance you get .

Then go and kill. Raze everything and keep killing.

It is really easy, and it will cure you of any sentimentality about leaving nice forests intact, or being kind to your miserable population. You will also get your highest score yet in Civ IV.

Once you have that down, do it again in a real game, say on continents. Keep the captured capital intact, raze the rest, and then enjoy having a big whack of land to yourself. Build some cottages and open up a beer, now you're living!

 

[Silence101]

Last night I started a game as Suleiman (Prince / 18 Civ's / Standard map size / Epic) and it wasn't long before I discovered Brennus to my north. I started off building a warrior this time (I rarely start that way) but it worked to my advantage because magically popped another warrior from a goody hut. (So I had a total of three warriors.) It was about this time that Hinduism was discovered and I noticed that Brennus converted to Hinduism... which means that he was teching the religion route instead of archery, AH, or BW - and his home city was looking nice and ripe from what I could see, so I declared war. He had a population 2 holy city for his capital - no BW (no slavery), one warrior and one worker. I lost two warriors trying to take the city, but the last one took it easily. Needless to say, from that point on, it was a pretty easy game... but I think it was probably the earliest successful rush I've ever done.

 

[RandomLeader]

One more question and it's kind a important.

When you attack AI and you get diplo penalty with others (you declared war on our friends).. do that diplopenalty dissappear if you destroy civilisation you declared on?

 

[JimT]

One more question and it's kind a important.

When you attack AI and you get diplo penalty with others (you declared war on our friends).. do that diplopenalty dissappear if you destroy civilisation you declared on?

Nope, your stuck with it