The Best and Worst leader of your nation's history...
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Tragdor
Radical for Freedom
America
Best leader: This is a hard choice problaby Jefferson he redefined the very nauture of the presidency if America kept on geating Fedralist presidents America would be a lot more European (no offence to Europeans but I think that little point having two Europes, cultral diverstiy is mostly a good thing
Worst: This is a easy chocie Warren Harding
Best leader: This is a hard choice problaby Jefferson he redefined the very nauture of the presidency if America kept on geating Fedralist presidents America would be a lot more European (no offence to Europeans but I think that little point having two Europes, cultral diverstiy is mostly a good thing
Worst: This is a easy chocie Warren Harding
Pangur Bán
Deconstructed
Scotland
Best
King Kenneth I mac Alpin - he created my country. That is enough, but King David I annexed northern England; King Robert I later freed the country and nearly freed Ireland too; King James IV made us a European power, but blew that with his chivalry at Flodden. King Donald III Bane tried to save the country's culture from the reforms of M III.
Worst
King Malcolm III Canmore - started the process of de-celtification. Yeah, I know, to anyone but a sentimentalist, that was probably a good thing. King James VI betrayed his country to personal, or rather, dynastic greed.
Best
King Kenneth I mac Alpin - he created my country. That is enough, but King David I annexed northern England; King Robert I later freed the country and nearly freed Ireland too; King James IV made us a European power, but blew that with his chivalry at Flodden. King Donald III Bane tried to save the country's culture from the reforms of M III.
Worst
King Malcolm III Canmore - started the process of de-celtification. Yeah, I know, to anyone but a sentimentalist, that was probably a good thing. King James VI betrayed his country to personal, or rather, dynastic greed.
sorry for my bad knowledge of some american history
MrPresident
Anglo-Saxon Liberal
Warren Harding was President from 1920 to 1923. His adminstration was perhaps the most corrupt in American history.
Britain.
Churchill - Saved us from the Nazis.
Charles I - Caused the English civil war.
Britain.
Churchill - Saved us from the Nazis.
Charles I - Caused the English civil war.
nation name: America
best leader name: Abraham Lincoln. Freed slaves. Got us through civil war. Hard worker.
worst leader name: Clinton. Sexual criminal. Pro-choice.
EDIT: Oh yeah. And FDR was NOT the best leader. Or a good leader. He may have been an "okay" leader, but definently not the best.
best leader name: Abraham Lincoln. Freed slaves. Got us through civil war. Hard worker.
worst leader name: Clinton. Sexual criminal. Pro-choice.
EDIT: Oh yeah. And FDR was NOT the best leader. Or a good leader. He may have been an "okay" leader, but definently not the best.
Ohwell
Deity
Can I nitpick?
Abraham Lincoln is a good choice I agree.
But about Clinton... he wasn't a sexual criminal. He had an affair with someone, which isn't illegal, and its been shown in some studies that perhaps one in four married men OR women are in an affair at one point in their marriage. Nearly all American presidents had mistresses, as well. Not that I blame any of them.
And what is so wrong with Pro-choice? Just think of the word, Pro-Choice. It just screams "democracy". Choice? Democracy?
Bose
Antipodean
Best:
Bob Hawke - he could scull a pint in 1.2 seconds.
John Howard - i don't really like him, but he's a genius.
Worst:
Paul Keating - he couldn't do anything, except plunge Australia into recession.
Howard Holt - couldn't swim.
Bob Hawke - he could scull a pint in 1.2 seconds.
John Howard - i don't really like him, but he's a genius.
Worst:
Paul Keating - he couldn't do anything, except plunge Australia into recession.
Howard Holt - couldn't swim.
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
Originally posted by Ohwell
And what is so wrong with Pro-choice? Just think of the word, Pro-Choice. It just screams "democracy". Choice? Democracy?
And what is wrong with Pro-life? Just think of the word, Pro-Life. It just screams "human decency". Life? Basic morals?
Anyway...
America.
Best Leader: Lincoln for holding the nation together in its worst crisis ever. FDR for holding the nation together in two crises. And Roosevelt, for being an overall good President and being one of the greatest pro-enviroment Presidents.
Worst Leader: Lets see...LBJ escalated the war in Vietnam.
(Hoover, BTW, didn't really create the Depression. He may have let it run its course for too long, but it wasn't his fault, it was the policies of the Republicans of the 20s.)
Drewcifer
Agent of Karma
US
Best leader: Jefferson for his roll in shaping our democracy in a time when democracy was just a theoretical concept. America's greatest political philosopher. Also his decision to double size of the country by purchasing Louisiana from the French was controversial at the time but seems to have worked out pretty well.
Worst leader: James K Polk. For political reasons he tricked the Mexicans into a border incursion and used it as a pretext to declare war. He then used the war to steal California and most of what is now the US southwest from Mexico. Although the Mexican American War was succesful he left office as a figure of scorn and an embaressment to the country.
Best leader: Jefferson for his roll in shaping our democracy in a time when democracy was just a theoretical concept. America's greatest political philosopher. Also his decision to double size of the country by purchasing Louisiana from the French was controversial at the time but seems to have worked out pretty well.
Worst leader: James K Polk. For political reasons he tricked the Mexicans into a border incursion and used it as a pretext to declare war. He then used the war to steal California and most of what is now the US southwest from Mexico. Although the Mexican American War was succesful he left office as a figure of scorn and an embaressment to the country.
Archer 007
Rebirth
US
Best: FDR and Lincoln
Worst: Bush Jr.
Best: FDR and Lincoln
Worst: Bush Jr.
amadeus
Apply directly to the forehead
U.S.
Best: Reagan - greatly accelerated the end of the Soviet empire, cut taxes (and doubled government revenues during his term) and launched boom economy of the 80's, didn't blame America first every time something went wrong.
Worst: FDR - shadow communist (the 94% top tax bracket?) and internment of Japanese.
Best: Reagan - greatly accelerated the end of the Soviet empire, cut taxes (and doubled government revenues during his term) and launched boom economy of the 80's, didn't blame America first every time something went wrong.
Worst: FDR - shadow communist (the 94% top tax bracket?) and internment of Japanese.
Constantine
at least it isnt the sens
Canada
Best William Loyn Mackenzie King steered Canada out of the depression and toke us throught the war years
Worst cant think of that right now
Best William Loyn Mackenzie King steered Canada out of the depression and toke us throught the war years
Worst cant think of that right now
allhailIndia
Deity
India
Going back in history
Best:
Ashoka- Heralded the First Folden Age in Indian history and generally looked after his people without going to war at the drop of a hat.
Akbar- Despite being illiterate, heralded a a cultural revolution which saw the fusion of Middle Eastern and Indian ways of life, without being anatagonistic to either.
Worst:
Muhammad Bin Tughlaq- Famous for his impractical ideas which bankrupted the country.
H.D.Deve Gowda- Worst Prime Minister EVER! Slept more on the job than any other politician 10 years elder to him
Going back in history
Best:
Ashoka- Heralded the First Folden Age in Indian history and generally looked after his people without going to war at the drop of a hat.
Akbar- Despite being illiterate, heralded a a cultural revolution which saw the fusion of Middle Eastern and Indian ways of life, without being anatagonistic to either.
Worst:
Muhammad Bin Tughlaq- Famous for his impractical ideas which bankrupted the country.
H.D.Deve Gowda- Worst Prime Minister EVER! Slept more on the job than any other politician 10 years elder to him
Anti-EUA
Prince
Brazil
Best - Getúlio Vargas in his second appearance as president. Since the first he was a dictator!
Worst - Garrastazu Médici - Was the toughest of the dictators here, following american policies, killing thousands and endividating the country like no one did before.
Best - Getúlio Vargas in his second appearance as president. Since the first he was a dictator!
Worst - Garrastazu Médici - Was the toughest of the dictators here, following american policies, killing thousands and endividating the country like no one did before.
Originally posted by Ohwell
But about Clinton... he wasn't a sexual criminal. He had an affair with someone, which isn't illegal, and its been shown in some studies that perhaps one in four married men OR women are in an affair at one point in their marriage. Nearly all American presidents had mistresses, as well. Not that I blame any of them.
And what is so wrong with Pro-choice? Just think of the word, Pro-Choice. It just screams "democracy". Choice? Democracy?
1. Bandwagon Fallacy
2. So? I'm not against democracy if I'm against the murder of millions of innocent babies.
Perfection
The Great Head.
U.S.
Best: Lincoln
Worst: Ford
I'd like to point out that the great depression wasn't Hoover's fault, the massive stock market bubble was growing for years before his term and there wasn't much he could do about it
Best: Lincoln
Worst: Ford
I'd like to point out that the great depression wasn't Hoover's fault, the massive stock market bubble was growing for years before his term and there wasn't much he could do about it
