The Civ 5 C&C Off-Topic Thread

[Typhlomence]

There's a whole thread about things Firaxis forced upon us to be wary of

And yet, despite all those... eccentricities... that get in the way while modding CiV, I still think it's one of the easier games to mod that I've played.

To be fair, though, I guess there's a few reasons I might feel that way:

• I've hardly played Civ 4, let alone tried to mod it, so I can't compare the experience;
• I don't remember when I first heard about how CiV was supposed to be the "most moddable Civ ever" - certainly not when I bought it (from Humble Bundle);
• I've mostly stuck with making new civs only at the moment. I haven't tried to do a gameplay changing mod or something with really new, interesting mechanics (yet), like several other people have been doing; and
• Of course, there's all those people who have had to find out about all those issues the hard way so they could actually be documented on the forums. That's not to mention people such as Deliverator who had to do things like reverse-engineer CiV to allow for custom models

 

[Kesler]

I have to say, despite me not actually putting a mod out and only having 1.5 years of coding experience, I really hope the big improvement in Civ VI is better coding (stop hardcoding pls), better networking, and QOL features for modding. Apparently X-COM 2 is great for modding, so maybe that's a good sign...

 

[Zack]

a whole 500 posts huh

 

[Arakhor]

Before long, they'll have 16,000 posts and just be entering the big boys' league.

 

[lordrj15]

I have to say, despite me not actually putting a mod out and only having 1.5 years of coding experience, I really hope the big improvement in Civ VI is better coding (stop hardcoding pls), better networking, and QOL features for modding. Apparently X-COM 2 is great for modding, so maybe that's a good sign...

I don't have any coding experience at all. I mean, I know how to use xml etc., but I don't know anything about WHY it works.

It just does, also I am afraid that if I do find out all my civs will stop working

On an unrelated note, astrology is now one of my many, many triggers.

 

[Arakhor]

And I passed 18,000 posts after I noticed. How annoying.

Someone flapping on about astrology does make me question their intelligence, even if I know them already. Similarly, believing ancient astronaut stuff and YECs who still believe that everyone else is wrong on science, not just faith.

 

[lordrj15]

And I passed 18,000 posts after I noticed. How annoying.

Someone flapping on about astrology does make me question their intelligence, even if I know them already. Similarly, believing ancient astronaut stuff and YECs who still believe that everyone else is wrong on science, not just faith.

Indeed, the documentary series "Ancient Aliens" is the one of the few things that is genuinely able to enrage me.

Mainly because they outright lie, and that's not taking their absurd logic into account.

 

[Arakhor]

In a certain amount of irony, that three-hour documentary thoroughly debunking Ancient Aliens was put together by someone who appears to be a YEC himself.

 

[LeeS]

I don't have any coding experience at all. I mean, I know how to use xml etc., but I don't know anything about WHY it works.

It just does, also I am afraid that if I do find out all my civs will stop working

On an unrelated note, astrology is now one of my many, many triggers.

Your Piety is Duly Noted. In Our capacity as Pontifex XMLicus Maximus, We shall praise and uplift your holy Hard Drive to ArchAngel DataBase.log, and Supplicate you be Gathered to the Bosom of He Who Is Sid in the AfterGames.

But Truly, to not imperil your Immortal Hard Drive, you should no longer dabble in these unclean notions such as 'astrology'.

 

[Arakhor]

Don't you mean Pontifex MaXMLus?

 

[LeeS]

Don't you mean Pontifex MaXMLus?

That would be more 'pure' for both Republican Rome and Christian Rome, but it seems a bit more of a tongue-masher and brain-farter. Also, those unclean SQLitizers also claim to have a 'Pontifex Maximus', and I wouldn't want followers of The One True Code to fall under the heretical sway of a false priest through confusing one "Chief Priest" with the other.

 

[Arakhor]

Doctrinal differences are always a pain, but it's not that much of a tongue-masher. Just pronounce it Max-mul-us.

 

[AW Arcaeca]

I don't have any coding experience at all. I mean, I know how to use xml etc., but I don't know anything about WHY it works.

Basically

XML gets turned into SQL
SQL gets added to a database
C++ game core takes stuff from the database and does stuff with it

savvy?

Doctrinal differences are always a pain, but it's not that much of a tongue-masher. Just pronounce it Max-mul-us.

Ma-ex-em-el-us*, or at least max-em-el-us**, if you insist on pronouncing MaXMLus. It irritates me when people pronounce SQL as "sequel", especially since it's a [FAMILY FRIENDLY FORUM] acronym, not a random combination of letters.
I guess people trying to pronounce acronyms is my trigger, although I tend to turn a blind eye to it when people, y'know, don't add in extra sounds when doing so. I mean, there are no vowels in SQL, which is why it couldn't logically be turned into "sequel", "squul"*** would probably be grey area, and ess-kyoo-el**** would be okay since, being an acronym, it should be pronounced by its individual letters anyway.

(Linguistics is my hobby, so I'm big into pronunciations)

* IPA notation: [mæʔˈɛksəˌmɛləs]
** [ˈmæksəˌmɛləs]
*** [skwl]
**** [ɛskjuɛɫ]

 

[LeeS]

I think the last few posts have conclusively demonstrated that the folks who regularly hang out at Civ5 C&C are no less crazy a bunch than those who inhabit OT on a regular basis.

 

[Borachio]

A sonnet

An amazing thing happened to me today, I suddenly forgot what comes first - 7 or 8.

I went to my neigbors and asked them about their opinion on this matter.

Great was their and my amazement, when they suddenly discovered, that they couldn't recall the counting order. They remembered 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, but forgot what comes next.

We all went to a commercial grocery store, the one that's on the corner of Znamenskaya and Basseinaya streets to consult a cashier on our predicament. The cashier gave us a sad smile, took a small hammer out of her mouth, and moving her nose slightly back and forth, she said:

- In my opinion, a seven comes after an eight, only if an eight comes after a seven.

We thanked the cashier and ran cheerfully out of the store. But there, thinking carefully about cashier's words, we got sad again because her words were void of any meaning.

What were we supposed to do? We went to the Summer Garden and started counting trees. But reaching a six in count, we stopped and started arguing: In the opinion of some, a 7 went next; but in the opinion of others an 8 did.

We were arguing for a long time, when by some sheer luck, a child fell off a bench and broke both of his jaws. That distracted us from our argument.

And then we all went home.

 

[AW Arcaeca]

I think the last few posts have conclusively demonstrated that the folks who regularly hang out at Civ5 C&C are no less crazy a bunch than those who inhabit OT on a regular basis.

Hahahahahahaha wrong
While you may not have ostensibly used the word "savage", I think this sums it up pretty well:

"The definition of 'savage' tends to be 'not me'."
- John Green

EDIT: tfw you have to add in the quote because someone posts right before you

 

[gay_Aleks]

Hi. My name is Tolni.

Civ4 is better.

(I came too late. Bloody hell.)

Welcome to Off-Topic, where even your most strongly-held beliefs are challenged on a regular basis.

Spoiler :

Civ IV forever!

call up the militia, we've got outsiders here!

 

[lordrj15]

Your Piety is Duly Noted. In Our capacity as Pontifex XMLicus Maximus, We shall praise and uplift your holy Hard Drive to ArchAngel DataBase.log, and Supplicate you be Gathered to the Bosom of He Who Is Sid in the AfterGames.

But Truly, to not imperil your Immortal Hard Drive, you should no longer dabble in these unclean notions such as 'astrology'.

Long live the XMLaster race

 

[Danmacsch]

So, new topic (everyone knows SQL is superior anyways, so the discussion is a waste of time ).

What are you guys studying, if anything, where and why?

 

[GPuzzle]

Still in High School. Catholic School, to be precise. Why? Well, I want to move out of the country. Easiest way is through Foreign Exchance programs available in public universities, which are quite ironically the better ones. You see where I'm going with this, right?