The Civilization Elimination FINALS
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bryanw1995
Emperor
Arabia 20
Babylon 22
France 8
Inca 21
Japan 18
Siam 16
Songhai 30
Denmark 26
siam is great in war with those awful ramakakaphants, and the UA/UB make it a very strong peacenik as well. Denmark is like japan or mongolia but not as good as either of them as a warmonger imho.
Babylon 22
France 8
Inca 21
Japan 18
Siam 16
Songhai 30
Denmark 26
siam is great in war with those awful ramakakaphants, and the UA/UB make it a very strong peacenik as well. Denmark is like japan or mongolia but not as good as either of them as a warmonger imho.
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Arabia 20
Babylon 22
France 8
Inca 21
Japan 16
Siam 16
Songhai 31
Denmark 26
Babylon 22
France 8
Inca 21
Japan 16
Siam 16
Songhai 31
Denmark 26
dude you have to wait 24 hours before voting again lol
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
I think that in general, the rule's changed to once per day.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Yeah. Don't post at 11pm and then at 8am the next morning, but if it's the next day after a reasonable delay, I think it's fine.
TopGearFanatic
Duke of St. Louis
Arabia 21
Babylon 23
France 3
Inca 21
Japan 16
Siam 16
Songhai 29
Denmark 27
Babylon 23
France 3
Inca 21
Japan 16
Siam 16
Songhai 29
Denmark 27
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
*Although France scored Bronze in the qualifying round, it may be the first to go here!*
20 hours, I'd say close enough.
Arabia 22
Babylon 23
France 0
Inca 21
Japan 17
Siam 16
Songhai 29
Denmark 27
So wanted to get the KO on France. Not because it's particularly bad, but it's IMO on the low end of good, and generally very overvalued (again, IMO of course) due to how visible the UA is. Just like gas prices, we inflate the significance of things that are shoved in our face (hey look at all those border pops! Or, hey look at all that money I get from River Warlord!). Not to say those aren't good abilities, but not as good as we're often inclined to believe. For further evidence, look at how France and China used to be seen as by far the two most hands-down dominant forces in the game. While some civs fell when they or their playstyle were nerfed (**CoughAlexanderCough**), those two weren't (France) or were barely (China) touched, but as the community started to differentiate between visible effect and powerful effect, they began to be understood as less powerful than originally thought.
Also, one good unique doesn't make the Ottomans great; the same can be said for France.
As for the Arabia love, I don't think it's the best on this list right now, but some civs are only as good as the viability of the one playstyle they're good at (domination). So I'm inclined to avoid them on the grounds that the civ isn't actually stellar, it's just really good at the easiest way to win. Perhaps distinction without difference, but the likelihood of warmongering being made less lucrative makes me feel a little more justified (a well-balanced civ can be leveraged towards warmongering, but an overly strategy-dependent civ will only excel to the extent that that strategy excels).
Arabia 22
Babylon 23
France 0Inca 21
Japan 17
Siam 16
Songhai 29
Denmark 27
So wanted to get the KO on France. Not because it's particularly bad, but it's IMO on the low end of good, and generally very overvalued (again, IMO of course) due to how visible the UA is. Just like gas prices, we inflate the significance of things that are shoved in our face (hey look at all those border pops! Or, hey look at all that money I get from River Warlord!). Not to say those aren't good abilities, but not as good as we're often inclined to believe. For further evidence, look at how France and China used to be seen as by far the two most hands-down dominant forces in the game. While some civs fell when they or their playstyle were nerfed (**CoughAlexanderCough**), those two weren't (France) or were barely (China) touched, but as the community started to differentiate between visible effect and powerful effect, they began to be understood as less powerful than originally thought.
Also, one good unique doesn't make the Ottomans great; the same can be said for France.
As for the Arabia love, I don't think it's the best on this list right now, but some civs are only as good as the viability of the one playstyle they're good at (domination). So I'm inclined to avoid them on the grounds that the civ isn't actually stellar, it's just really good at the easiest way to win. Perhaps distinction without difference, but the likelihood of warmongering being made less lucrative makes me feel a little more justified (a well-balanced civ can be leveraged towards warmongering, but an overly strategy-dependent civ will only excel to the extent that that strategy excels).
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