El Justo said:bkwrm79,
were you able to figure why the game froze on you
that's surprising that kiel wasn't defended that well.
was it the Tu 95 Bears that were showing up to bomb your fleet?
I had nothing else open. It froze staring at Izmir, where the turkish fleet just moved in and out, but I don't see how that could have anything to do with it.
Yes, though my island city of Crete is pretty useless. While I'm having even greater success in Africa since my last report, I am only able to do it on the dangerous assumption that Soviet forces aren't going to break through Yugoslavia and take my unprepared European cities. This is becoming less of a worry though, since WW4 broke out as a 3 way conflict, and China has consumed most of Siberia. In fact, they have consumed damn near all of Asia. India is gone, North Vietnam gone, SEAR pushed off the mainland entirely, IAP getting smacked around hard and even Sapporo in northern Japan was taken. Short of nuclear strikes from both the US and USSR, they have become unstoppable at this point, and they are too busy fighting each other still.El Justo said:
I agree, it is so. When Sweden was to choose a new tank to replace our old Centurions and Strv 103's, we tested the M1A2, the Leopard 2A5 and the Leclerc, with the Leopard as the winner in most test categories. I'm fairly certain the British Challenger 1 also should have similar stats since its 120mm rifled gun is the equal of the Rheinmetall gun of the M1A1/A2 and the Leopard 2, and its Chobham armour is second to none. (And why does the Chieftain (note spelling) come later than its contemporaries Leopard 1 and M60?)Adler17 said:
I disagree on the same grounds Vinegar Joe covered above, but regarding the carrier I have a proposition: since it's West Germany AND the Lowlands, they should have the Dutch Colossus class aircraft carrier HrMs Karel Doorman from the beginning (it served with the Koninklijke Marine 1948-1968), with its Fokker-built Sea Furies onboard.Adler17 said:
She and her sister were operational and active from 1949 when they were reactivated and periodically throughout the first half of the 1950s. The bigger ships Italia (ex-Littorio) and Vittorio Veneto and the half-sister Giulio Cesare were the ones the Allies took as war booty. Wyrmshadow has done all these for SOE, but I'm not sure they're released yet.), and the gas turbine actually generated its own unique problems. Among other faults it proved to make the tank more vulnerable since it emits so much heat that it's a sure hit for IR-guided munitions. BTW, during NATO exercises in Germany during late 1980's and throughout the 1990's the Bundeswehr tank crews usually got the better of their American and British colleagues, as long as the Apache helicopters didn't support the opponent. But as you wrote; the stat differences in TCW are small enough to not really matter.
I suppose the Sovs were too busy in China to bother with Europe. ), I turned my sights to Cuba. In March I landed 4 shermans there; in April, I pulled 2 out, invasion complete....a disaster at that. Upon landing, they were beset by hoards of cuban infantry, and though they suffered higher casualties than I, my two red-lined shermans were in no way sufficient to capture the island (well, duh!). I decided to wait for the development of the airforce, and by that time, the war would be over. In August, Britain signed peace with the USSR. WWIII had lasted ten months.
I was afraid for a while that this could start off a huge war, but since Scandinavia was doing all the attacking, nothing came of it. ), and soon I was able to deploy my considerable fleet of Peacemakers to Japan to help the B52 hold the Russians at bay. It worked. Although the Russians had by now taken Jinan (Mar, '55), their advance was stopped in its tracks. Somehow, when I wasn't noticing, the Arabs had taken Guiyang, though. Most of China now consists of the Himalayas and the Gobi cities. They only have two or three cities left on the coastal plains. 
The war continued indeterminably for a while, then in October, the Chinese sign peace. Seeing this, I get peace also (having admirably accomplished my first objective, and narrowly accomplished the second) and started planning my next conquest. It would have to be neutral. And it should give me some strategic advantage... I spy North Africa! A perfect place to deploy the Peacekeepers from if I get booted from my new airfield in Europe, and a good springboard from which I might conquer the rest of Africa. I move my carriers, re-base to peacekeepers to San Juan, load the transports with my Corps and Marines, and Away I go! I declare war in November '55, and North Africa is mine by May of '56. I have commenced buildup of forces, and soon my new oriskany class carriers will descend upon them and wipe them off the face of the earth...for the good of world peace, of course! 
yes, that ain't pretty and those waves of infantry will definitely create havoc.silver 2039 said:This is the border after the nuke strikes. It's not pretty...
IroquoisPlisken said:Hmm, the Iranian front doesn't look too bad...yet. I agree, though, the Chinese are a threat. Good luck, silver.
I've played some more of my USA game.
Nov. 1950 Ismail Ashari of the Central Africans approaches the Americans with a request for peace. Truman refuses, however, knowing that Castros regime will be toppled if the war lasts simply a few months longer.
Dec. 1950 Truman becomes even surer of his previous statement after the capture of Cienfuegos in December. Spearheading the attack was a division of the new M-26 Pershing tank, the first of which was completed late last month, which single-handedly destroyed a BTR-152 APC. The Americans took very few casualties (I lost no units) mopping up the remaining Cuban Infantry.
The Cubans attempt to retake the city later in the month with two divisions of Cuban Infantry, but fail miserably.
A peace treaty is signed between Japan and WP. Truman is extremely angry with the Japanese, for he knew it was only a matter of months before Castro would have been ousted from power.
Jan. 1951 The radio is modernized and the Howard Stern Show quickly becomes a popular station around the country.
That same month, a successful espionage mission against the Chinese claims the secrets of the Atomic Theory.
Feb. 1951 Breaking News! 2 United States Infantry who had captured, then guarded a Soviet airbase near Dresden during the war were kicked out of the country. Instead of returning them to the airbase near Paris where they originally came from, Stalin thought it would be more appropriate to drop them off over 4000 miles away in the desert between Soviet, Chinese, and Iran/Afghan/Pak borders. Learn more tonight during the 10 o clock news!
Those brave soldiers.
Mar. 1951 Reporters have well, reported that the two infantry divisions have decided to seek shelter in Iran.
The British were caught attempting to plant a spy in Washington this is disturbing for two reasons. 1, it means the British already have Espionage, and 2 even our allies are spying on us.
bkwrm79,bkwrm79 said:I can't figure it out. It did the same thing to me when I tried replaying the turn.
I was quite surprised at Kiel... Ankara was much better defended! I took the same casualties (just 1 division destroyed) but Ankara was packed with infantry, so I had to tie up a lot of tanks, not to mention my corps, attacking. But Ankara was surrounded by Turkey, so maybe that was because it was too difficult for the Soviets to pull out troops to send at China.
I'm pretty sure it was the Bears. Nasty things! But I was glad to see the AI making a concentrated attack, even though I'm afraid that (if I get past this turn somehow) the Soviets will sink my Pacific Fleet before it reaches harbor. Four carriers!
ooo...you better batten down the hatches in greece b/c Uncle Joe will come knockin' any turn!PriestOfDiscord said:
hi Wolfhart.Wolfhart said:This is a really, REALLY entertaining scenario to play!!! After playing fantasy scenarios since spring I thought I should try something new. Man, I'm happy I choose this one. Great work, you guys, great work
I agree, it is so. When Sweden was to choose a new tank to replace our old Centurions and Strv 103's, we tested the M1A2, the Leopard 2A5 and the Leclerc, with the Leopard as the winner in most test categories. I'm fairly certain the British Challenger 1 also should have similar stats since its 120mm rifled gun is the equal of the Rheinmetall gun of the M1A1/A2 and the Leopard 2, and its Chobham armour is second to none. (And why does the Chieftain (note spelling) come later than its contemporaries Leopard 1 and M60?)
I disagree on the same grounds Vinegar Joe covered above, but regarding the carrier I have a proposition: since it's West Germany AND the Lowlands, they should have the Dutch Colossus class aircraft carrier HrMs Karel Doorman from the beginning (it served with the Koninklijke Marine 1948-1968), with its Fokker-built Sea Furies onboard.
And since we're talking ships:
There should be no Argentine Independencia CVL in 1950 (it's bought 1958), but you could if you wanted too add the Chilean battleship Almirante Latorre which was in service in an excellent condition 1950 (it was refitted 1948-49 and the Chilean Navy has a good rep for maintenance anyway). The two Argentinian battleships Rivadavia and Moreno were still around too in 1950, but were probably not servicable without costly refits. The same goes for the Brazilian battleship Minas Gerais.
Where are the Italian and the Soviet battleships? In 1950 the Italians were using the small but beautiful battleships Andrea Doria and Caio Duilio, which the Allies had allowed them to keep, and the Soviet Union had three: Oktyabrskaya Revolutsia in the Baltic, Sevastopol and Novorossisk in the Black Sea.
And wheres the Armada, the Spanish Navy? At least give them their County class cruiser Canarias (and the Counties were CAs, not CLs).
And why did you delete the French Colossus class CVL Arromanches? It became French already in 1946 and in January 1950 its just home from a tour to Indochine. And the French did have two Richelieu class battleships in 1950, Richelieu and Jean Bart with the latter brand new and on trials.
Well, I realize that most of these could have been omitted for the sake of game balance, so Ill stop there before I turn more obnoxiously nitpicking than I already am
psweetman1590,psweetman1590 said:As promised, Here is my report on the USA, Demigod (I think). v1.5
To start with, I disbanded all those nukes in DC to help pay for a factory. I hate nuclear war, so I'm just getting 75 free shiels every time I get a new mid-range missle.
I checked a good deal of the civ-pedia too, mainly to get familiar with the units, tech tree and re-named improvements. I spent about two hours just reading history off the pedia. I love your personal notes in there too, El Justo.
I shipped 4 shermans out to Korea in preparation for a war I thought would come. As it happened, that war hasn't yet come, those shermans are there yet, and by the time the war DOES get there, the shermans will be too out-of-date to do anything!
In Apr 1950, the WP declared war on China, starting the first hot war of the game. They immediatly took the city of Harbin, and November, took Shenyang, and also ran over a British sub, touching off WWIII.
My small force in Europe did well, defending Germany, and even managing to capture the Soviet airbase near Dresden in Jan of 1951 (I needed it, becaus the French cultural expansion took away my other airbase). However, this goal was met for only 1 turn, for the French proceeded to take Dresden.
Considering the war in Europe to be well-in-hand (France taking Dresden seems a very auspicious start
In December of that year, I completed the B52 plant (Is this a bug? I have the B52 plant up and running, but the B32 plant keeps spitting out Peacemakers. I thought the B52 plant cancelled out the B32 plant?). How nice those planes are.... How beautiful....
Nothing else much happens until May of '52, when Mao demands 100 gold from me. I figure that war with China wouldn't hurt, to say the least, so I decline. Mao backs down, to my disappointment.
In September, Athens build the Rock 'n' Roll thingie...Elvis was Greek?! I didn't know that!
In March of '54, Scandinavia declares war on China, and comences to send individual M4 Shermans across the SU to get there....stupid AI.
the I Armored Corps is formed in August of that year. I promptly filled it with Pershings, and waited for war with the WP so I could invade Cuba again.
Then, in October, the WP declared war on China yet again, and using U2 spy planes I quickly found their invasion force. They were headed over the Gobi desert, straight to Peking ( I had completely wrecked their communications systems last war from the Japanese airbases, and I guess they hadn't rebuilt them yet, and that was why they headed out over open terrain). The offensive comprised of 16 IS3s. A scary force for China to face. As it was, the WP military force was larger than mine, and I certainly didn't want the WP to have control of China; the amount of war materiel they might produce from it would make my situation worse than it was already. So I pre-empted the situation and declared war on the WP. Almost all my forces were near Miami ready to Invade Cuba, but my single B52 could be spared, and I used it to great effect (or to as great an effect as one can get from a single bomber squadron) to delay the Soviet advance. But alas, it was not enough. It slowed them, but they eventually did capture Beijing in Feb of '55.
Meanwhile in Cuba, my forces set sail immediately. The first and second Rangers battalions paradroped onto the island, while four other Pershing tanks went by boat. The next turn, the city was captured by my four Marine divisions waiting off the coasts, and the I Armored Corps landed next to Cienfuegos (What does that mean? 100 what?). I ended up losing both of the Rangers, both of which died attacking a single APC with one hp left (neither did any damage.) May I suggest that you make the rangers (and their foreign counter-parts of course) a bit stronger? perhaps a -1 hp penalty instead of -2? Sure, they have great mobility, but they can't kill a thing! Whats the point of moving anywhere, quickly, when once you get there, you die anyways? Just a thought.
In any case, the conquest of the rest of Cuba (I captured Havana in April) prceeded smoothly (those Iowas are SWEET!
In other parts of the World, India and China had become locked in war, but since those damn imposing Himalayas are between them, nothing much happens. China manages to take one of their cities, but they soon lost it....
This situation becomes more volatile after the WP dclares war on India in Mar of '56. Again, I didn't want the commies to have any more industrial power than they already had, so I sent massive aid (in the form of 10,000 gold) to India. It worked. The city of Ahmabadad changed hands several times (to the tune of Soviet, Indian, Arab, Indian, Arab, Indian....), but India (at the moment) still controls all of her native lands. In fact, after a few months, India signed peace with the WP, and used the funds I gifted them to fight China. They managed to capture Kunming! NOOO! But I recently checked with the Indian government, and they are out of funds once again, having spent it all. They will not end up taking China after all.
As for future plans, seeing the turmoil that keeps enveloping all of China, India and the surrounding lands, I have decided that taking North Vietnam would be conducive to world peace
Very nice scenario, El Justo, I love it. Even though I do have the best hardware, without combined arms, even taking a pushover like North Africa would have been bloody. As it was, I only lost 2 marines and a Pershing when they counter-attacked me. Very nice balancing.
And those B52s Rock!
what happens when the whiskeys become obsolete?Adler17 said:
