The Cop Out Argument - Racism

[kochman]

Because the idea that he could support racism in the form colonialism or by supporting Israel's collective punishment of Palestinian Arabs, even unknowingly makes him uncomfortable, which makes it bad to point out because

This coming from "evil, brown people"... Ha!
Keep making things up, Useless.

 

[useless]

Because i meant that term literally, clearly despite my support of the palestinians.

Also Kochman; Your faults are not my problem, so if you find the idea of being accused of being racist maybe you should look into why your position might be construed as such.

Also i never made anything up, if i did prove it.

 

[jackelgull]

Because the idea that he could support racism in the form colonialism or by supporting Israel's collective punishment of Palestinian Arabs, even unknowingly makes him uncomfortable, which makes it bad to point out because

I agree that Israel is a good example of colonialism, but what bearing does that have to do with the current issue? Once a people have settled and worked the land for over five decades, they have earned a right to it. How they got it no longer matters. What matters is that they're their.
After Ghengis Khan's death, the mongols slaughtered and raped their way through Korea. Thirty years of struggle were for naught. In the end many Korean woman were deported to be concubines for important mongols and many men were forced into service. The mongols ended up settling down and interbreeding with the Koreans who were left.
After seven centuries, I believe that the descendants of those Mongols who stayed have earned a right to that land and I would oppose any attempt by descendants of those who were forced out to regain the land.
Israel has earned a right to the land, but it shouldn't be allowed to force those already there to leave. That is what I want to prevent. I don't support giving Palestinians their property back, no matter how unfairly taken.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Accusing somebody of being a racist is generally the death knell of civilized discussion.
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Having said that, I would point out that it was you, kochman, who first used the word "racist" in the Israel discussion thread. I only responded to your post in order to defend my viewpoint when you asked me to "apologize for calling you a racist"- something which I have no memory of actually doing.

Depending on the context and wording of the accuser's post, it could be considered trolling, and should be reported to the moderators.

 

[illram]

Moderator Action: This thread does not seem like it is going anywhere other than trading racism accusations... locked pending mod discussion.
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