The Crucible

[GreekAnalyzer]

Chinese Republic​

Flag:

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Our Territory:

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Traditions: Scientific + Army
Color: Light Blue
Capital: Beijing
Religions: Confucianism, Daoism, some Christianity.
Main Language: Mandarin Chinese
Secondary Language: Cantonese
Technologies: Morphine and Sulfates + Jet Engines
Policy: Free Market
Minister: Army Minister (Chiang Kai-shek)
- Centralized Command
- Offensive Doctrine
Currency: Yuan (Y)
Command: 2 Generals, 1 Air Marshall, 1 Admiral
Unit Names:
- First Rifles Division (Infantry)
- Second Rifles Division (Infantry)
- Third "Rock Men" Division (nicknamed "Rock Men" due to their brave defenses in the various battles of the civil war)
- First Armor Division (Armor)
- First Anti-Tank Division (Anti-tank)
- First Defense Division (AA)
- First Air Wing (Fighter)
- First Anti-Plane Wing (Interceptor)
- Second Anti-Plane Wing (Interceptor)
- First Protection Air Wing (Escort)
- First Bomber Wing (Bomber)
- Second "Death From Above" Wing (Bomber)
- CRS Guangzhou (Battleship. Shandong-class Battleship)
- CRS Chiang Kai-shek (Submarine. Xinjang-class Submarine)
- CRS Sun Yat-sen (Submarine. Xinjang-class Submarine)
- CRS Nanjing (Destroyer. Kunming-class Destroyer)
- CRS Luoyang (Destroyer. Kunming-class Destroyer)
- CRS Chengdu (Destroyer. Kunming-class Destroyer)
- CRS Harbin (Cruiser. Xian-class Cruiser)
- First "Hammer of the Gods" Division (Artillery)

UUs:
Fist of China (Armor, +1 Counter against Armor, +1 Counter against Infantry, +7 HP, +7 Attack)
Sinchuan-class Destroyer (+1 Counter Against Air Units, +12 Attack, +12 HP)

Gov't:
Bicameral Republic:
Upper House: House of Delegates
Lower House: People's Assembly
- President: Xi Guo (M)
- Prime Minister: Lan He (F)
- Head of the House of Delegates: Qiang Luo (M)
- Head of the People's Assembly: Huang Zhang (M)

 

[Ailedhoo]

The Ottoman Empire

Government: Imperial Constitutional Monarchy

Claims:



Capital: Istanbul.

Sultan: Orhan II

Traditions: Officer and Legal

Social Policy: Universal Suffrage and Free Market

Technology: Advance Training

Command: 2 Generals (General Mesut Teke and General Abdul Hamid Demir), 2 Admirals (Admiral Isa Karga and Rizvan Sadik, 2 Air Marshals (Air Marshal Onor Uzun and Air Marshal Zeki Arap)

Spoiler Unique Units :

Barbarossa Corvette (take the destroyer as basis); named after the famed pirate who aided the Ottoman Empire: smaller but faster than the destroyer, used as a patrol boat and for light assault.

Orban Bomber; named after the engineer who designed the cast used for the Dardanelles Gun that was used for the fall of Constantinople:

Spoiler Unit Names :

New Caucasus Army Group First Infantry Division

Second Yildirim Army Group First Infrantry Division

Reborn Janissary First Infantry Corp

Primal Sipahi Armour Division of the Empire

First Suleiman Anti-Armour Division

Dardanelles Artillery Division One


First Buddecke Fighter Group

First Hoca Interceptor Group

Second Hoca Interceptor Group

First Yeşilköy Bomber Group

Second Yeşilköy Bomber Group

OWV (Ottoman War Vessel) Osman I (Battleship)

OUWV (Ottoman Underwater War Vessel) Hacivat (Submarine)

OUWV Karagöz (Submarine)

OWV Mehmed I (Destroyer)

OMV Mehmed II (Destroyer)

OMV Abdul Hamid I (Destroyer)

OMV Suleiman I (Cruiser)

Spoiler Ministers :

Interior Minister: Abdullah Aslan: minister of economics

Army Minister: General Nur Solak: centralised command

 

[Civ'ed]

Union of South Africa

Spoiler :

Link to video.

Spoiler :

Government: Unicameral Republic
Official Languages: English, Dutch, Afrikaans
Capital: Pretoria
Governor General: Nicolaas De Wet
Army Minister: Jakobus Dutoit (Offensive Doctrine)
Traditons: Army, Innovative
Army Command: 2 generals, 1 admiral, 1 air force
Technology: Biological Tests
Social Policy: Authoritarianism
UUs:
Native Volunteer Regiment (infantry) - 78/80/66
Riebeeck T2 (Armor) - 178/150/105
Voorttrekker Naaldbomwerper (Bomber) - counters land units 1:2, 83/35/70

 

[Lighthearter]

QUESTIONS​

1. With New Deal social policy, is the 10% factory meaning that factories increase income by 35% now?

I've rebalanced New Deal to only provide 2 Factories. Yes, this is correct.

2. Is the factory bonus to province income before trade income is calculated? If not, is it before total income is calculated?

It's calculated before either.

3. Explain the air units please. What are CAGs, Escorts, Fighters, and Interceptors in relation to each other? A CAG is a carrier air group and is normal composed of both fighters and bombers (naval versions of course), so why is a CAG automatically countered by escorts, fighters, and interceptors? Why do escorts counter fighters?

Sure. A Fighter is a heavily armed and armored, fairly manuverable all-purpose craft. It can tackle short-ranged interceptors without undue difficulty. Interceptors themselves are designed to scramble when enemy bombers are spotted, and have a lot of speed and maneuverability to outperform slow and clunky escort fighters. Escorts themselves have the armor and firepower to slug it out successfully with regular fighters, but just can't keep up with interceptors.

CAGs represent torpedo and dive bombers. Carriers can base interceptors to represent their fighter complements. Bombers are a mix of tactical and strategic bombers, depending on the mission involved.

4. Do command bonuses from generals etc. stack on each other? With 2 generals, would I have a 40% bonus instead of 20%?

No.

5. How do land units cross bodies of water? Fleet chains?

Land units can enter water whenever they want. They are not bond by the range limitations of fleets, but are defenseless if attacked from air or sea, so you are advised to work with allies if you need to send a fleet beyond your coverage.

In that vein, you CAN base air and sea units at allied airbases and harbors.

6. Can our UUs have special abilities, such as 3 air unit slots on carriers instead of 2?

Currently there are no abilities available other than purchasing new aircraft slots on carriers. However I am toying with a few that might be unveiled soon.

7. Please, please, please explain the UU chart. I have no idea what any of it means.

The Unit Creator

8. Wouldn't Arsenal of Ideology become OP if a group of players were to form and just a single one of them had it?

Yes. Yes it would. So you'd better form your own alliances with AoI players or use those savvy diplomatic skills to break up any such alliance, eh?

Some of these were discussed in chat with no conclusive answers. Others I am curious as the OP isn't too clear.

OP isn't clear. OP was written in between mowing and calculating the RP turnset, and supplemented by rules developed over several weeks that have been "gently" twisted into functioning in the same ruleset.

In that vein:

Slightly Edited OP

Nation and Update List

The Unit Creator

Arrow needs to supply a name for his nation. Several people haven't given me capital locations, so check the nation list and see if you're okay with what I assigned you. Your post should look like WIM's or e350tb's. Both are perfect or the next best thing. You don't really have to include ALL of the detail they did, but I want something in a similar vein.

 

[GreekAnalyzer]

2 things:
1. I've updated my UUs
2. Where are the base Attack/Defense/HP stats for units?

 

[Lighthearter]

Spoiler :

From the Units & Buildings section. Will check your UUs when I can.

 

[arya126]

Post being updated.

Capital changed to Dallas.

Changed from Legal to Innovative.

Changed Technologies.

Removed Free Market Policy.

Adding UUs soon.

Background added.

 

[arya126]

UUs up.

Can units be used the turn they are created?

EDIT: If a country creates an air UU and that country has jet engines, and country B gets production licenses for the UU, will country B have the bonuses from jet engines when using the UU they purchased?

 

[Civ'ed]

Added third UU, moved capital to pretoria

 

[christos200]

Great Korean Empire​

Spoiler :

Spoiler :

Government: Absolute Monarchy

Capital: Seoul

Traditions:
Army Tradition
Legal Tradition

Technology: Atomic Theory

Policies:
Authoritarianism
Great Purge

Emperor: Hwang Jang Le

Ministers:

Army Minister (Because of Army Tradition, he starts at Tier Two. But because of Great Purge Policy, all Ministers get + 1 Tier, so he is Tier Three): Yang Kang (Centralized Command, Home Guard Doctrine, Patriotic Fervor).

Interior Minister (Because of Great Purge Policy, all Ministers get + 1 Tier): Guo Jing (Minister of Economics, Secret Police).

Command: 2 Generals, 1 Air Marshall, 1 Admiral

List of Units:

- First Heavenly Imperial Army (Infantry)
- Second Heavenly Imperial Army (Infantry)
- Third Heavenly Imperial Army (Infantry)
- Tigers Division (Armour)
- Heavenly Defensive Force I (Anti-Tank)
- Heavenly Defensive Force II (AA Gun)
- Heavenly Eagles I (Fighter)
- Heavenly Eagles II (Interceptor)
- Heavenly Eagles III (Interceptor)
- Heavenly Eagles IV (Escort)
- Heavenly Eagles V (Bomber)
- Heavenly Eagles VI (Bomber)
- Yi Sun-sin (Battleship)
- Empire (Submarine)
- Heaven (Submarine)
- Confucius (Destroyer)
- Buddha (Destroyer)
- Imperial Majesty (Destroyer)
- Seoul (Cruiser)
- Thunder Division (Artillery)

UU:

Imperial Guards (Infantry, 30/90/63, Counters: Anti-tank, AA Gun, Infantry 1:1)
Leopards (158ATCK/170DEF/105HP/Armor)

 

[Civ'ed]

Out of curiosity, where does the "korean" come in

 

[KaiserElectric]

The Kingdom of Egypt

Head of State: King Farouk of Egypt
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Color: Red
Capital: Cairo
Traditions: Naval Tradition, Merchant Tradition
Technologies: Minister Training, Big Government, Naval Fire Control
Social Policies Private Research

Ministers:

Ali Mahir Pasha (Interior Minister)

• Minister of Economics
• Social Security
• Free Market

Muhammad Mahmoud Pasha (Naval Minister)

• Centralized Command
• Gunboat Doctrine

Unique Units: On the way, pending discussion with Captain Sauerkraut up in the North.

 

[Lighthearter]

@Christos:

1 - Your ministers get to take an ability for each tier, not just the highest one.

2 - check the Unit Creator on the first page.

@Arya:

Yes to the first and good question to the second. Ruling no though on the logic of maintaining jet engines without the appropriate research.

 

[Lighthearter]

With the map on post 2 plus Lec and Christos, here is my preferred start location list in order:

1: West/Central Africa

2: Central/ South America

3: Central Asia/Middle East

4: Siberia/Japan

5: Australia/Indochina

6: Eastern Europe/Scandinavia

7: Canada/France

I only really want the first three. If you're torn between ideas this might help you choose.

 

[Dem Taqat]

The Confederation of African States

Government: Confederated 'Republic'; decisions by state representatives are done through vote, but the representatives themselves are not elected, rather appointed by their states government
Languages: Arabic, Italian, French, or Spanish depending on the state
Currency: Federation Denar (FD)
Economy: Increasingly Centralised
Capital: Tunis
Religion: Predominantly Muslim
Social Situation: Conservative, but some variance by state

Traditions: Merchant Tradition, Legal Tradition
Technology: Morphine and Sulfa
Social Policies: Planned Economy, Five Year Plan

Ministers:

Interior: Banker McRothschild (Tier 2): Minister of Economics, Social Security
Army: Notta McDicatator (Tier 1): Centralised Command

Command Units: General Ripper McKilgore, General Panzer McBlitzkreig, Admiral Wetsock McSoaking, Air Marshall Cloudy McAirhead

Military Composition:

Spoiler The Military :

Army:
9th Confederate Irregulars (Infantry)
3rd Volunteer Rifles (Infantry)
12th Rif Militia (Infantry)
1st Desert Armour (Armour)
5th Heavy Artillery (Artillery)
2nd Light Artillery (Anti-Tank)
8th Auxiliary Corps (AA Gun)

Navy:
ACS Freedom (Battleship)
ACS Tunis (Cruiser)
ACS Rustbucket (Destroyer)
ACS Desert Wind (Destroyer)
ACS Sandstorm (Destroyer)
ACS Rebellion (Submarine)
ACS Guerilla (Submarine)

Air Force:
Squadron 1F (Fighter)
Squadron 2F (Escort)
Reserve Squadron 5F (Intercepter)
Reserve Squadron 6F (Intercepter)
Squadron 3B (Bomber)
Squadron 4B (Bomber

Unique Units:

BI7c 'Camel' Bomber:
A bomber specially designed to endure the mechanical challenges of operating in desert conditions, the BI7 has multiple redundant systems to ensure that even when faced with extensive damage and mechanical failure it can still continue flying. Capable of landing on rough desert airstrips without difficulty, the Camels name is derived from the 'hump' gun turret mounted on the top of the airframe.
Attack: 70
Defence: 30
HP: 121

S32d 'Berber' Tank:
Another result of the problems involved in desert warfare, the Berber tank is designed to ensure survivability in this environment. As a result, these tanks find themselves with an advantage over the tanks of other nations, which are more prone to breaking down in prolonged combat. These tanks are planned to be mass produced over coming years to ensure that desert warfare can be swiftly and effectively carried out should the need ever arise.
Attack: 133
Defence: 103
HP: 103
Counter: +1 vs Armour

History: (Subject to change based on the given history of Italy, the Ottomans Spain, and any joiners in France, so done in little detail)

Following the conquest of territories in Libya from the Ottomans, the Italians had only tentative control over the region, with firm control over only a series of ports on the Mediterranean. Attempting to expand their control via military incursions, the Italians grossly underestimated the capacity of local tribes to resist them. With the tribes receiving weaponry and military assistance form outside sources they were able to uproot the Italian forces and establish an independent confederation. This was later expanded as the disastrous wars with other tribes in the Rif region weakened French and Spanish holdings in North Africa.

Since this period the locals have adopted an increasingly centralised government in their push to establish a modern and industrialised nation capable of retaining its independence from colonial powers across the Mediterranean. With bureaucracies set up to manage this under the western economist Banker McRothschild, political and military power have devolved from the tribes towards a series of central mechanisms. Whilst the central government remains ruled by representatives from the small states that make up the confederation, political tensions have begun to blossom as this federal government and their military forces begin to take more and more control over the different aspects of the nation, culminating in their most recent five year economic plan.

The Five Year Plan
Events of 1936
Marines?

DT

 

[Civ'ed]

On a scale of 0/0/0 to 255/255/255 how white is your nation because we'll need to formulate a government policy on this

 

[christos200]

Updated post with UU and List of Units.

 

[NinjaCow64]

THE STATE​

Spoiler :

"The State, the Leaders and the Military are one and the same.
Without one the others cannot exist.
When they are in disharmony they are weak.
Together they are strong. Strength through harmony,
It is the only way."
~Commander Smith of the State

THE STATE:

Capital: Smith's Landing (Western Province)

Traditions: Army, Legal
Technology: Advanced Training
Social Policies Cult of Personality, Total War

THE LEADERS:

Leader: Commander Smith
Army Minister: Vladimir Strong (Centralized Command, Offensive Doctrine)
Navy Minister: Luigi Swift (Centralized Command)
Air Minister: Wu Strike (Centralized Command)

THE MILITARY:

Standing Army:

1st Command Core "Smith's Own" (General)
2nd Command Core "Snow Covered Trenches" (General)
3nd Command Core "Poseidon's Hand" (Admiral)
4th Command Core "Valkyries" (Marshal)

1st Infantry Legion "First to the Front, Last to Die" (Infantry)
2nd Infantry Legion "Ice Skin and Iron Hearts" (Infantry)
3rd Infantry Legion "Maniacal Swarm" (Infantry)

1st Amour Legion "Ticky-Tacky Boxes of Death" (Amour)

1st Mechanized Anti-Tank Legion "Aim for the Feet!" (Anti-Tank)

1st Mechanized Anti-Aircraft Legion "Fore!" (AA Gun)

1st Mechanized Artillery Legion "Nice Army you got There..." (Artillery)

1st Air Fighter Legion, Led by "Gandaberunda" (Fighter)

1st Air Interceptor Legion, Led by "Searching, Seek and Destroy" (Interceptor)
2nd Air Interceptor Legion, Led by "Defense through Destruction" (Interceptor)

1st Air Escort Legion, Led by "Babysitting for Death" (Escort)

1st Air Bomber Legion, Led by "Roc's Rocker" (Bomber)
2nd Air Bomber Legion, Led by "Falling Angels" (Bomber)

1st Battleship Legion, Led by "SSS Thunderfall" (Battleship)

1st Submarine Legion, Led by "SSS Romulus" (Submarine)
2nd Submarine Legion, Led by "SSS Remus" (Submarine)

1st Destroyer Legion, Led by "SSS Swift Justice" (Destroyer)
2nd Destroyer Legion, Led by "SSS Swift Vengeance" (Destroyer)
3rd Destroyer Legion, Led by "SSS Swift Removal" (Destroyer)

1st Cruiser Legion, Led by "SSS Dirty Dog" (Cruiser)

Spymaster Red (Spy)

Unique Units:

Mad Jack Legion: (Originally Infantry) 53ATCK/60DEF/50HP: Additional Counters: Infantry, Artillery, Railroad Guns (All One-to-One)

The shining example of THE STATE'S "men can do more than machines" philosophy, these elite units are trained for almost every situation, they are jacks-of-all-trades hence the name. Almost every man in the military are in awe of these men.

Anti-Mechanical Legion: (Originally Anti-Tank) 84ATCK/70DEF/40HP: Additional Counters: Aircraft

Try as they might, THE STATE could not provide a cost effective means of providing their beloved Mad Jack Legions a way of defeating amour and aircraft. Traditional Anti-Amour and Anti-Aircraft Legions were the most cost efficient way of doing so. THE STATE then decided that they would merge these two legions to provide an auxiliary legion, thus the Anti-Mechanical Legion was born.

THE HISTORY:

The mysterious Commander Smith (possibly a pseudonym) took over a large portion of Siberia during the Russian civil war via unknown means. He implemented his unique militant ideology on the area, forming the political entity only known as THE STATE. The main guiding principles of THE STATE are that there is no difference between the military, the leadership and the state; and that men can do much more than machines can ever dream to. However, nobody has ever seen Commander Smith, THE STATE seems to be run on his behalf by his advisory council (whose names are almost certainly pseudonyms). Something strange is going on in that country and nobody seems to know exactly what. Nobody except Commander Smith, assuming he even exists.

 

[NinjaCow64]

THE QUESTIONS:

Sorry for putting this in a separate post, but I wanted to keep the questions and the nation separate.

1. I'm confused, is it the total strength of the army that counters stuff or is it the number of them that counters it? Let's use an example.:

Say I have 1 Unit of "A" that has a Strength/Defense of 10 and counters Unit "B" 1-to-1, which has a Strength/Defense of 1. I have one Unit of A and I am attacking my enemy, who has 9 Units of B. Does my A counter his "Bs" or do I need ten "As" to counter them?

2. If a UU counters an enemy type, does only the UU get the bonus or does everyone who shares the base unit type get the bonus?

 

[Lighthearter]

To the first, it is arranged by unit, hence the ability for some units to counter multiple enemies at once.

To the second, I don't understand the question. Only the UU benefits from its own upgrades