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Are you suggesting they can see inside your head? Or are you refering to felonious conspiracy? Either way...
I mean, it is not like the government ever abuses their power, right?

Are you suggesting they can see inside your head? Or are you refering to felonious conspiracy? Either way...
Are you suggesting they can see inside your head? Or are you refering to felonious conspiracy? Either way...
I mean, it is not like the government ever abuses their power, right?![]()
Well, more like The Minority Report with computer analysis of data functioning as precogs
In Hollywood everyone is falsely accused. But in the real world someone is committing those crimes. What's better - to prevent a murder or execute the criminal?
Spying on millions of innocents for the chance to aid the conviction of a few is following the slope to tyranny.
What is better - to destroy freedom for the illusion of security,...
In Hollywood everyone is falsely accused. But in the real world someone is committing those crimes. What's better - to prevent a murder or execute the criminal?
I would say that in Hollywood, the guilty are always punished eventually and the falsely accused are always vindicated eventually. The same is not true of the real world, with both false positives and false negatives.
Ok, but again, is it better to prevent a crime or let it happen and then punish it?
Characteristically obtuse.
I would say that Turkish Internet Security Authorities have a responsibility to protect their citizens from cybercrime in the same way police must protect citizens on the street.
Ideally prevent it, but it's a lot more difficult in practice. Putting the question that way ignores the chance of false positives (and an overemphasis on punishment may lead to a bunch of undesired false negatives).
Perhaps I'm just old-fashioned - from the, "Ounce of prevention worth a pound of cure," school of thought. It just seems a no-brainer that law-enforcement agencies, patrolling the highways and byways, can observe illegal behavior and deter crime. The Internet is a new kind of highway. Crime and terrorism are there. So it follows that law enforcement will patrol there too.
Your false positives and false negatives would be present under any system having to do with human beings. We are imperfect and make mistakes.
Why I'm Not (very) Worried about PRISM
I say, meh.
...and thats why Im not shocked or outraged by the recent leaks of government spying. Ive always assumed that the government was spying. The hackers certainly have been theyve been trying to steal my credit cards, passwords, and other details of my digital life for decades now. If I absolutely dont want something to be stolen, I simply shouldnt inter it into the digital landscape. Period.
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Perhaps I'm just old-fashioned - from the, "Ounce of prevention worth a pound of cure," school of thought. It just seems a no-brainer that law-enforcement agencies, patrolling the highways and byways, can observe illegal behavior and deter crime. The Internet is a new kind of highway. Crime and terrorism are there. So it follows that law enforcement will patrol there too.
Your false positives and false negatives would be present under any system having to do with human beings. We are imperfect and make mistakes.
Why I'm Not (very) Worried about PRISM
I say, “meh.”
...and that’s why I’m not shocked or outraged by the recent leaks of government spying. I’ve always assumed that the government was spying. The hackers certainly have been — they’ve been trying to steal my credit cards, passwords, and other details of my digital life for decades now. If I absolutely don’t want something to be stolen, I simply shouldn’t inter it into the digital landscape. Period.
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