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Oz im still waiting
Oz im still waiting
The Grognards
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Originally posted by Yoda Power
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Oz im still waiting
Apologies -- r/w deadlines for the stuff I actually get paid to do
-- I'll have a second draft posted by tonight, New York time.
-Oz
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No problem, I just had to be sure you havent forgot usOriginally posted by ozymandias
Apologies -- r/w deadlines for the stuff I actually get paid to do
-- I'll have a second draft posted by tonight, New York time.
-Oz
. Now im off to play stephs mod...
LouLong
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No, you are off to start downloading Steph's mod 
About Grognards :
some infantries (such as the Austrian one) changed during the game era. Should these be just graphical changes (era changes and era-specific unit graphics would therefore be needed) or actual upgrades ?
mrtn asked how the support train (using radar flag) should look like. Any ideas ? Wagons ? fortified camp ?
About Grognards :
some infantries (such as the Austrian one) changed during the game era. Should these be just graphical changes (era changes and era-specific unit graphics would therefore be needed) or actual upgrades ?
mrtn asked how the support train (using radar flag) should look like. Any ideas ? Wagons ? fortified camp ?
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I had just finished downloading the mod when i made the postOriginally posted by LouLong
No, you are off to start downloading Steph's mod
About Grognards :
some infantries (such as the Austrian one) changed during the game era. Should these be just graphical changes (era changes and era-specific unit graphics would therefore be needed) or actual upgrades ?
mrtn asked how the support train (using radar flag) should look like. Any ideas ? Wagons ? fortified camp ?
I think it should be unit upgrades, thats simply more fun.
support train? did I miss something?
The units should upgrade. The Prussian army complety changed in a few years. The Russian also had changes in tactics with officer sudh as Barclay du Tolly.
And it would be nice to have better French units at the beginning, with a filling of the gap toward the end, as coalition units will upgrade faster than the French.
And it would be nice to have better French units at the beginning, with a filling of the gap toward the end, as coalition units will upgrade faster than the French.
*Paalikles delurks:
Giving the French an advantage strengthwise over the other nations sounds risky - imho there should be some element slightly balancing out the action, as you wouldnt want the french to conquer the entire map too soon....
In order to have coalition units upgrade faster - does that mean that there will be civ specific tech trees, or did I just misread/misunderstand?
On second thought I guess there could be some way to upgrade a UU to another UU...
...(havent really checked out the editor yet, myself)
BTW - I will lurk in this thread - and can probably help playtest if there is something to test in holidays (too busy studying rest of the year
)
Giving the French an advantage strengthwise over the other nations sounds risky - imho there should be some element slightly balancing out the action, as you wouldnt want the french to conquer the entire map too soon....
In order to have coalition units upgrade faster - does that mean that there will be civ specific tech trees, or did I just misread/misunderstand?
On second thought I guess there could be some way to upgrade a UU to another UU...
...(havent really checked out the editor yet, myself)BTW - I will lurk in this thread - and can probably help playtest if there is something to test in holidays (too busy studying rest of the year
)
As promised ... 
Notes:
1. "Era=None" techs remain the same.
2. On the chart, circles with abbreviations in them are simply meant to make the chart readable: e.g., after the box "Military Invention" come the circle "< Mil. Inv. >" letting you know what the tech's abbreviation is. ("Bourg Soc" = "Bourgeois Society" and "Rev. Rep." = "Revolutionary Republic". )
3. Just a few symbols as minor notes / thoughts: "+" = new ability and "=" = improvement / wonder.
4. There's actual thought behind all this
so if something isn't readily apparent, just ask!
Best,
Oz
Notes:
1. "Era=None" techs remain the same.
2. On the chart, circles with abbreviations in them are simply meant to make the chart readable: e.g., after the box "Military Invention" come the circle "< Mil. Inv. >" letting you know what the tech's abbreviation is. ("Bourg Soc" = "Bourgeois Society" and "Rev. Rep." = "Revolutionary Republic". )
3. Just a few symbols as minor notes / thoughts: "+" = new ability and "=" = improvement / wonder.
4. There's actual thought behind all this
so if something isn't readily apparent, just ask!Best,
Oz
LouLong
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Actually what we had in mind was a tech-tree that would correspond to yearly events so as to replace events (that cannot be implemented in Civ3) and allowing some kind of progress.
Feel free to lurk around but the testing won't begin any time soon I am afraid.
LouLong
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It is in reference to Kryten's idea of having the radar flag used by support trains since logisitcs were already very important then. Of course their presence would reinforce the fighting power of nearby armies (by support). Now of course these would be only static and only in one's territory (as radars).
BTW does any one know if the radar of an allied power gives you a bonus in combat too ?
@ all : OK, we will stick to to upgrades. And don't ruin your lifes (RL ones I mean) over the project already. Conquests has not even shipped yet !
Yep - particular reference is to founding of the Bank Of France in 1801; I've not looked into any others (Bank Of England, etc.) Civilopedia work would certainly be appreciated
Best,
Oz
No, same tech trees, but the most advanced coalition forces will be better relatively to France than the oldest.
Example :
-Early infantry : 3/3/1 for Coalition, 4/3/1 for France
-Late infantry : 5/5/1 for coaltion, 5/5/1 for France.
LouLong
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Just a note for those who had downloaded the Austrian Line !
I forgot to zip in the death anim, now that is corrected. Please update if you had downloaded the file.
I forgot to zip in the death anim, now that is corrected. Please update if you had downloaded the file.
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Oz thats a nice tree, but its not one line.
I know -- I laid it out this way for these first two cuts to examine the logic of what we're involving. I'd like some feedback:
(1) Are the events indeed the right ones?
(2) Do we wish them simply laid out in chronological order or, for gaming reasons, should anything in particular preceed anything else.
Best,
Oz
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I think cronicel order is whatwe should go for. Afterall this is how the techs will appear. Also since a tech shall pop every year I suggest we make a table with all the years, and simply and try to fill it out. Then we will also know whats missing
Originally posted by Yoda Power
I think cronicel order is whatwe should go for. Afterall this is how the techs will appear. Also since a tech shall pop every year I suggest we make a table with all the years, and simply and try to fill it out. Then we will also know whats missing
Expect it before the weekend.-Oz
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ops, that reminds me im having a little vacation soon(starts saturday), so I cant work on the tech tree before sometime next week(I havent desided how long im away yetOriginally posted by ozymandias
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).hope you can live with that
Originally posted by Yoda Power
ops, that reminds me im having a little vacation soon [...]
hope you can live with that
I think I'll survive
-- Have fun!-Oz
