The last 3

[Brentimus]

By who? Vikings?
I think America has a slightly warped world view- you see, most countries don't go stomping around the planet pissing everyone off, so people don't feel the need to invade them, regardless of where they are.

Off topic but. . .

I think historical precedence supports the view that countries do invade one another quite often. This modern era of relative international peace is not a new phenomenon but is certainly short lived by historical standards. One need not travel far back into history to find the countless examples of invasion and world opinion turning against aggressors. . .

 

[bonafide11]

Its in the G8........

So what? Because it's one of the top eight economies in the world currently, it needs to be included in Civ? There is nothing that sets it apart from the other "economic powers," and having one of the top 8 economies in the contemporary world doesn't really make it a power...

 

[Paideia]

I would like Khmer Empire, Ethopia and Moorish Kingdom

Not really that well informed about the Moors, but can anyone explain to me the difference between the Arabs ingame now and the Moors..

 

[Ikael]

Brazil - 3rd largest democracy in the world, the only oil 100% independant country, largest hidric resources. It is a huge country and it seems poised to become a force to reckon with on a not so distant future, so it seems like a perfect fit for this expansion.

Australia - Pretty much because of the same reasons as Brazil, not to mention that we have little, if any Oceania civ out there.

Siam - They once were a great power on that area, and have a millenary culture to booth, plus we have few south asiatic civs as well.

 

[Archduke Otto]

It is like having a perfect fit...

 

[Archduke Otto]

@Paideia

The Moors, although I myself do not aspire to in-depht knowledge, were the Arab Civs in Spain and Northern Africa. The built a quite unique and culturally refined civilisation (i.e. the 'Alhambra' in Grenada). And they lasted for quite some time. The rling dynasty was also quite distinct fronm the Abbasaid Caliphs in Bagdad.

 

[Vlade Divac]

By who? Vikings?
I think America has a slightly warped world view- you see, most countries don't go stomping around the planet pissing everyone off, so people don't feel the need to invade them, regardless of where they are.

Sounds like someone else might have a warped view.

 

[Joe Harker]

Alexander Graham Bell, /QUOTE]


A) He was Scottish
B) He nick the idea of the telephone from someone else!

 

[sennomulo]

Maybe so, but that doesn't change the fact that "Polynesia" is a very broad term, covers hundreds of isolated islands which, before Western intervention, had little contact with each other and, importantly, had no civilisation.
Civilisation is defined by a number of factors, but the forerunner of them all is a settled agriculture. This was achieved among some North American tribes, making them potential candidates for a new civ, but it was not achieved by any Polynesian tribes- they never left the paleolithic, and so never achieved the status of civilisation.

I never said they should be in the game, just that the Polynesian peoples do share a lot of common traits. You're absolutely right; they were never a real civilization in any sense of the term for precisely those reasons.

 

[bode404]

Canada isn't a civilization. It's a small country with a lot of land that would have been invaded a long time ago if it wasn't for the fact that it borders America and has good relations with them. There is no reason for them to be in the game other than to increase sales. The same can be said for the Celts. So really, let's just cut the crap here. If Canada gets in the game it will have nothing to do with their contributions to the world or any other merit. The only thing it will mean is Fireaxis wants to improve sales there as it is a very good market.

Then what would be a good reason to include another civ? All the civilizations that most contributed to History are already in (even the ones we know about in BtS). The rest is just for fun
However, I wouldnt like Canada to be one of the 3. Though a great and nice country, they dont have a really unique culture.

Brazil - 3rd largest democracy in the world, the only oil 100% independant country, largest hidric resources. It is a huge country and it seems poised to become a force to reckon with on a not so distant future, so it seems like a perfect fit for this expansion.

Hey, I liked this one
Well, not just for these reasons, but mainly because Brazil would be a Latin America representative, and it was the richest European colony in America.
Though it seems unlikely to be included...

 

[NYHunter]

Here is my personal wish list:

Vietnam or Siam

Ethiopia or some other East African civ

The Antartic Scientists

 

[the Intricacy]

The statues do point towards polynesians in the game, but... hmmm.

name one great leader. Kamehameha of Hawaii? that's it, as far as i know.

what would their UU be? I would lean towards caravels that can carry settlers, but that comes too late imo, and galleys that go over oceans are too much of an advantage.

 

[chipper kid]

i vote scotland, nubia, and my personal favorite


TEXAS



yea....i know

im just an ignorant Texan but if you think about it

Leader: Sam Houston/Chuck Norris
UU: Texas Rangers
UB: Ranch

just playin around with an idea

 

[aronnax]

Hey, I liked this one
Well, not just for these reasons, but mainly because Brazil would be a Latin America representative, and it was the richest European colony in America.
Though it seems unlikely to be included...

And yet we have a native american civilisation.......

 

[Horizons]

Israel, Ethiopia, Sumeria.

 

[PimpyMicPimp]

Its in the G8........

'zactly. I think that makes it a power Just sayin'

 

[cybrxkhan]

Hittites (boring choice. not really even a civilization. their empire lasted only mere 600 years (from 1750 BC to 1180 BC).

well, the Mongol Empire only lasted a little more than a century... (c. 1200 CE - c. 1300)... the Spanish Empire lasted about four centuries (c. 1500 - c.1900)... the British Empire lasted about three and a half centures (c. 1600 - 1950)... the American Empire lasted (so far) for a century
they were a civiziliation. but i wouldn't prefer them, anyways.

I never said they should be in the game, just that the Polynesian peoples do share a lot of common traits. You're absolutely right; they were never a real civilization in any sense of the term for precisely those reasons.

i suppose the polynesians as not a civ can be argued, but they did have political states, and not like Native American tribes. like actual kingdoms, tiny island kingdoms, but kingdoms nevertheless. Like Tonga, for example, or more famously, Hawaii.

but, anyways, if i had to choose the last three regardless of anything, my picks would be:

- Vietnam
- Nubia
- Tibet

 

[Mango]

By who? Vikings?
I think America has a slightly warped world view- you see, most countries don't go stomping around the planet pissing everyone off, so people don't feel the need to invade them, regardless of where they are.

Considering the history of human civilization there's no reason to believe that America wouldn't one day just decide to take Canada. In another hypothetical scenerio where Canada wasn't protected by so many natural barriers then they would have some major problems. They had the largest fresh water reserves in the world, large quantities of oil, the second largest reserve of uranium and a fair amount of quality land. The problem, as I said, is that America would never let another country do that, not because they're friendly with Canada but because it would be a huge threat to national security.

Anyway, to the other person who quoted me, if you continue reading you would see that I called Canada a small country in population, not landmass. They have about 33 million people, which puts them around 36th in population worldwide. That's a small country.

 

[PimpyMicPimp]

Small population =/= insiginificant.

Did you also read how your other points you made in your previous post are totally invalid? Just checking.

 

[Thedrin]

Sennomulo:

TraitorFish:
Maybe so, but that doesn't change the fact that "Polynesia" is a very broad term, covers hundreds of isolated islands which, before Western intervention, had little contact with each other and, importantly, had no civilisation.
Civilisation is defined by a number of factors, but the forerunner of them all is a settled agriculture. This was achieved among some North American tribes, making them potential candidates for a new civ, but it was not achieved by any Polynesian tribes- they never left the paleolithic, and so never achieved the status of civilisation.

I never said they should be in the game, just that the Polynesian peoples do share a lot of common traits. You're absolutely right; they were never a real civilization in any sense of the term for precisely those reasons.

So you agree with that bolded, false statement?