The last 3

[Sabretou]

I say

Siam/Thailand
Burma/Myanmar
Poland

 

[Martinus]

Hittites/Phoenicia/Israel
Khmer/Vietnam/Siam
Nubia/Abyssinia/Ethiopia

P.S. Before someone shouts at me, I realise that civilizations divided by / are not the same, just saying that it is enough to have one of the designated area.

 

[Archduke Otto]

Although I'm not Swiss, I lived the best part of my life in Switzerland. I can tell you that saying Germany encompasses Switzerland is for them like Russia representing Poland.

And I'm German / Austrian.

 

[LDeska]

Germany encompasses Switzerland

- I don't know what you mean by "encompassess"... I just think that German civilization is not the same that Germany. It covers HRE, German states and (in my opinion) also Austria and Switzerland. So for me it's a Germanic civ.
Russia and Poland thing is different - if you would say Slavic and Poland, I would agree. Slavic is the same level as Germanic...
For example Poles and Russians does not speak the same language like Germans and Austrians and German-speaking part of Switzerland.

 

[Archduke Otto]

You're right there, I see.

Cheers,

Otto

 

[PW90]

Realistic ones:
Ethiopia/Abbysinia
Khmer/Siam
Hittites

I hope for these also:
Poland

Austria (Wouldn't surely be in because of the Germans) I have no Problem if they don't add them, but they should improve the german Citylist, cause of the lack of cities outside the germany today and maybe make Maria Theresia or Otto the Great 3rd leader for the germans

Hungary
Sweden (Same as Austria, but because of the Vikings)
Israel
Phoenicians (But there is already Carthage, although Carthage was only a Phoenician citystate)
Iroquois (But there is already the "Native American-Civ" confirmed, so only there is only a little Chance)

 

[Traitorfish]

Russia and Poland thing is different - if you would say Slavic and Poland, I would agree. Slavic is the same level as Germanic...

That's not a great comparison- even when Germany is taken to represent more than just the nation-state, it still only represents the High Western Germanic nations- it does not include Low West Germans, i. e.the English, North Germans, i.e.the Scandinavians, or East Germans, i.e. the Goths, Vandals, etc.)
Russia can be taken to represent Eastern Slavs, which means the Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians, etc, but it's a stretch to say that it represents all Slavs.
Although, you could equally raise this argument for the Celts- there were four separate Celtic groups, and currently it is primarily focused on the Gauls (although Boudicca will add Brythonic representation), but that's balanced out by the Celts' lesser influence and effect on history.

Still, although I would argue that Poland are a valid candidate for a new civ, I'd still say that they're pretty low down the list. Would've preferred them to Portugal or the Netherlands, but I'd also prefer Siam or Abyssinian to Poland.

 

[andrewlt]

Manchu
Almohad
Scythia

Honestly, every civ included this late is a minor ethnic group and not a real civ, anyway. I think we're just in a contest on who can find the most obscure ethnic group around.

 

[Martinoheat]

I'd like to see famous names, Israel, Hun and perhaps the representation of The Holy Roman Empire (Move Frederick to represent it .)

Bringing in A Frankish Civ would be good, with the Charlemagne scenario as well.

I just don't see the point in adding places that have never made that much impact on history, a lot of names I'm seeing are not world beaters, or don't carry an interesting story as far as I'm concerned, that's a deal breaker for me.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Honestly, every civ included this late is a minor ethnic group and not a real civ, anyway. I think we're just in a contest on who can find the most obscure ethnic group around.

well, not necessarily minor ethnic groups. some of the civs that are in, likely to be in, many of them were empirical and civilization-ish enough.

but i see your point. lets put in a Mohican civ for that matter, or Monaco.

oh, and Firaxis always for some unknown reason skips a certain superpower civ - Alantis.

 

[TheLastOne36]

i think it's a bit of a stretch to say that swiss is german but i believe the leaders should've been one german, one Prussian and one Austrian.

 

[Lance of Llanwy]

Manchu
Almohad
Scythia

Honestly, every civ included this late is a minor ethnic group and not a real civ, anyway. I think we're just in a contest on who can find the most obscure ethnic group around.

The Khmer were hardly minor. Neither were the Thai or Vietnamese. Or the Polynesians...

 

[PW90]

i think it's a bit of a stretch to say that swiss is german but i believe the leaders should've been one german, one Prussian and one Austrian.

Yes, I agree with you. It could be like this:
The Leader representing Prussia is Frederick
The Leader representing the Germans after their Unification is Bismarck
The Leader representing Austria should be in my opinion Maria Theresia

And the German citylist should be expand with cities outside modernday germany like Königsberg, Danzig, Breslau, Wien, Salzburg, Zürich, Luxemburg, Reichenberg, Brünn, Schäßburg etc.

 

[LDeska]

I don't think that it should be done - you have enumarated at least three cities: Królewiec - Königsberg, Gdańsk - Danzig, Wrocław - Breslau, that were not founded by Germans and were not German for most of the time... it could start a hot debate over if it should be included in German civ city list...
About Austrian and Swiss cities - for me it's ok, as I wrote before I consider Germany civ in civ4 as a Germanic civ that represents modern, German-speaking states.

 

[Antilogic]

Well, it looks like the last three have been selected.

The Holy Roman Empire (why didn't they just pick Austria)
Khmer
Ethiopia

I don't think there are many surprises here but the HRE.

 

[LDeska]

Yeah, Khmer and Ethiopia are very good choices in my opinion. HRE looks like another Western European civ... great choice
I wonder how look Europe when you will try to play World Map, now there are 3 more new Western European countries. And how will they cope with city names??? Anyway, not my problem - Firaxis is doind very strange things.

 

[TheLastOne36]

I don't play world map and it looks like i'll never will without a serious mod now.

 

[andrewlt]

The Khmer were hardly minor. Neither were the Thai or Vietnamese. Or the Polynesians...

They are. William Hung was a celebrity once, too. I wouldn't confuse him with the Beatles, though.