I'd like to make the case for a Japan-Korea (with Taiwan, Singapore, and the other East Asian independents thrown in) faction. I know this animosity pretty well from my own background. However, its important to remember that even today, Japan and Korea are major trade partners, an idea that itself was unthinkable sixty years ago. Korean media is dominating East Asia, and particularly popular in Japan amongst the children of the very generation that oppressed Korea. Am I saying there is a chance for reconciliation and cooperation today between them? No...
But the Great Mistake is an ecological disaster on an entirely different scale than what we've seen before. Entire countries wiped off the map, multiple wars that rival or exceed WW2 in size and devastation, human migrations that make the Huns look like a walk in the park, and a step back in human progress and industry so to make the Dark Ages jealous. The fact of the matter is, the Great Mistake is such a huge event spread over so long a time that the dev team can justify almost any pairing of former enemies. Or animosities between former allies...
As well, Korea-Japan-Taiwan are technology powerhouses with a long maritime history. They are also very overpopulated. If there was ever a country where it was economically beneficial to start creating artificial islands and floating cities, it would be these countries. They are also strongly corporate, I think the case could be made for a "Asian Reclamation Corporation" quite easily, only they are claiming the ocean itself in the wake of rising sea levels. In my opinion, its just a great fit and a good contrast to the NSA. While the NSA is more blue collar, do-it-yourself independent attitude, the new Korean Turtle Ship Empire is extremely high tech, efficient, and hierarchical. I would even say they should be run by an AI or something, but that might be leaning too far to Supremacy for a sponsor.
Oh dude, you mean that hurricane that prevented the combine Korean-Chinese fleet of the time from perusing them back to Japan right? Act of God is right!
PAC was supposed to have launched several Seeding vessels. Perhaps Sochua, as a kind of revenge of certain Han officials, got the Korean descendants shoved on her ship under a sort of 'fair representation' banner?
I predict we will learn the identity of the last new sponsor next week since this week is an XCOM2 live stream and next week will be another BERT live stream.
PAC was supposed to have launched several Seeding vessels. Perhaps Sochua, as a kind of revenge of certain Han officials, got the Korean descendants shoved on her ship under a sort of 'fair representation' banner?
I start to think for a while that skilled modder can make anything suggested here and we can't read the mind of the dev. /*insert snarky CivBE comment here */
So unless the Firaxis give us some hint (which didn't happen for North Sea A. and INTEGR) I fear even wildest of faction sit on unrepresented territories having equal "prove" to a most logical one.
And in the lore of human evolution. Wouldnt it make sense that nearby moons and planets of our solar system had been colonized and could represent a faction ? "the first settlers" or something like that. Ppl that would be kinda frustrated to have been sent to worlds with less potential and harder life conditions (mars, the moon, etc ?) and would want to join hands and get a piece of those rich new worlds.
They could have better adaptation to extraterrestrial life as a baseline for their bonuses. Maybe a more greyish, baldish look for their leader. A kind of hybrid alien humanoid.
And in the lore of human evolution. Wouldnt it make sense that nearby moons and planets of our solar system had been colonized and could represent a faction ? "the first settlers" or something like that. Ppl that would be kinda frustrated to have been sent to worlds with less potential and harder life conditions (mars, the moon, etc ?) and would want to join hands and get a piece of those rich new worlds.
They could have better adaptation to extraterrestrial life as a baseline for their bonuses. Maybe a more greyish, baldish look for their leader. A kind of hybrid alien humanoid.
I like it. I personally think a future expansion will have cities in the orbital layer, or at least space stations. So a spacer group (using Mass Effect terminology) would be a great new faction for that expansion.
This would really annoy me to be honest, unless they managed to make it more seamless with the main map. The orbital layer is featureless and it's going to be difficult justifying full-fledged cities up there. I'm glad they didn't listen to fans who were calling for an underwater layer, as the focus should be having it all on one map.
I still don't even see the point of the orbital layer as it stands, its only purpose seems to be letting you see the actual satellites, while all the action takes place on the ground anyway.
This would really annoy me to be honest, unless they managed to make it more seamless with the main map. The orbital layer is featureless and it's going to be difficult justifying full-fledged cities up there. I'm glad they didn't listen to fans who were calling for an underwater layer, as the focus should be having it all on one map.
I still don't even see the point of the orbital layer as it stands, its only purpose seems to be letting you see the actual satellites, while all the action takes place on the ground anyway.
Yeah,not a fan of the orbital cities thingy. What i like about my idea is the fact you can pretty much create a new culture entirely as you can fantasize as much as you want on how life of the first settlers sent near earth could have influence their society. They would be kind of an alien race, without actually being one. Say the lore send those first settlers around 2030, that they decided to claim their independance in 2090. That leaves still a good amount of time for them to build their own identities. They could have an hybrid language for example.
Maybe it will be for a later expansion. And talking about it, i really hope for a 2nd one, focused on victory conditions. Maybe by bringing back some culture/diplomatic like victories.
Yeah,not a fan of the orbital cities thingy. What i like about my idea is the fact you can pretty much create a new culture entirely as you can fantasize as much as you want on how life of the first settlers sent near earth could have influence their society. They would be kind of an alien race, without actually being one. Say the lore send those first settlers around 2030, that they decided to claim their independance in 2090. That leaves still a good amount of time for them to build their own identities. They could have an hybrid language for example.
Maybe it will be for a later expansion. And talking about it, i really hope for a 2nd one, focused on victory conditions. Maybe by bringing back some culture/diplomatic like victories.
Civil war and space colonization sounds mutually exclusive to me. At least, the way you stated it reads like Sochua's ship comes from a Korean sponsor, not PAC.
Civil war and space colonization sounds mutually exclusive to me. At least, the way you stated it reads like Sochua's ship comes from a Korean sponsor, not PAC.
I think the idea was more along the lines of "PAC sends out colony ship, then collapses under the weight of its own expenditures and the animosity of those left behind."
I think that in more serious interpretion of the lore. A supposed faction should have dozens of possible leader and their own "sub-faction" with their own specialty. Brazillia, for example, may have a ship lead by Reginaldo. But another seeding ship can led by Chilean militarist or leader that have different ideology.
There are still unrepresented un-amalgamated Earth territory, and I sure the last civ would follow trend of "represent" new territory the revealed 3 civ did. But this can mean you can split a faction to have a dozen of leader, and I think when there's no land (and planet and supernational organization and unexpected idea) left. It would be backstory for new leader.
That pacific faction would certainly come into conflict with both the Commomwealth and my Wayfinder Initiative. There's so much ocean I think they could all exist without stepping on each other's background too much. It doesn't have to be a peaceful existence
Actually this makes me think, why don't we have more sponsor anyways? I find it hard to believe they could only think of 8 game play styles they could make work even in Vanilla BE. Now they might have a hard time making lore for for more than 8 but let's be honest here, they just flopped on that initially anyways. If we are to believe every single sponsor not only sends up their own ship but each with ships to multiple different planets they could easily have the resources across the world for much smaller factions at least hitching a ride. I'd like to see them pull out a ton of different ideas, that would be exciting.
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