The MapView Project - Editor/Viewer

[Junuxx]

This program isn't any better than the map editor within Civ4.

Is there something I'm missing?

*The program loads faster
*Maps load faster
*Zooming is faster
*Editing is faster
*Scrolling is faster
*MapView has a filling tool
*MapView gives you cool statistics

 

[Jesus Civs]

*The program loads faster
*Maps load faster
*Zooming is faster
*Editing is faster
*Scrolling is faster
*MapView has a filling tool
*MapView gives you cool statistics

1. Map does load faster.

2. Zooming is the same speed. I think zooming is better on the in-game editor.

3. Editing is the same speed.

4. Scrolling is the same speed.

5. The filling tool does have an advantage, but is it used?

6. Statistics are a good idea.

Overall, I think the in-game editor wins it as the graphics are "what you see is what you get" whereas the MapView graphics can be misleading, especially with rivers, mountains and hills.

The in-game editor works better for me even than the Civ 3 map editor (except of course you cannot change the XML files while in the in-game editor).

Criticism is a key to success. Sorry Greyhound.

 

[Junuxx]

Well, I don't know what kind of pc you're on, but many people can hardly edit a huge map with the in-game editor, unless they take 10 minutes per tile. Zooming out can also be extremely laggy if you don't have a high-end video card.

 

[Jesus Civs]

256 Mb graphics with 2 Gb RAM.

 

[Junuxx]

Well, that explains
I have 1 GB of RAM and a 128MB graphics card, and I notice a huge speed difference in the things I mentioned. Also, if I just want to take a quick look at a map, or just want to take a screenshot, I don't want to waste time by firing up Civ 4. MapView loads in, like, 3 seconds, while civ takes at least 10 times as much time, I guess.

 

[kurt-roges]

MapView 0.2.3.1072 crashes when I try to open a map of size 217x119 tiles (132990 lines, 1.91 MB). It gives me a dialog box with the message

"Externe exception EEFFACE"

I close the dialog box, but it keeps re-appearing. I don't think there's anything wrong with the WBS file, because I can open it in another editor and use it in Civ4.

Any ideas? Is there still a limit on the file size, or on the number of lines in a file?

thanks

- Dan

 

[Gr3yHound]

hmm, sounds as it would break a limit here but usually you should be able to run 250x150 maps with up to 300000 lines. I think it´s been like that in 0.2.3

sorry can´t help you atm, you could just make the map smaller and edit it and then copy the stripped parts pack in.

 

[spincrus]

Doesn't answer my needs in map drawing (I do it as a BMP first and then convert it to WBS), but it's perfect for resource, starting point and river placement. Has made my modding life so much more easier

 

[kurt-roges]

hmm, sounds as it would break a limit here but usually you should be able to run 250x150 maps with up to 300000 lines. I think it´s been like that in 0.2.3

sorry can´t help you atm, you could just make the map smaller and edit it and then copy the stripped parts pack in.

FYI:

Turned out that MapView can't directly read maps which were created using kswoll's map maker (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=144414). I had to open it up in the Civ4 WorldBuilder and save it, then I was able to open it normally.

 

[Gr3yHound]

oh ;(

could you pls host a map that was created by kswoll´s map maker for me please since i can´t get the program to run and create one on my own.

I already asked for it and i think i should know what exactly the issue is but if i had a file the whole process would be easier to make, and it wouldn´t be all abstract.

 

[kurt-roges]

could you pls host a map that was created by kswoll´s map maker for me please since i can´t get the program to run and create one on my own.

Attached to this post should be a WBS file made with kswoll's program -- it's 10x10 tiles, all grassland. I tried opening it with MapView and it gave me the exception I posted earlier.

Let me know if you need anything else.

- Dan

 

[MSTK]

Is there any way for a quick fix that will display things in Civ3 Graphics?

 

[Gr3yHound]

Is there any way for a quick fix that will display things in Civ3 Graphics?

just look into the gfx folder, you can just replace those files to your requirements.

 

[MSTK]

Oh, I didn't noticed that. This is great

But the view still isn't isometric, which I guess is impossible.

 

[Tyranausaurus]

Grey Hound, any new ideas on fixing the issue of crashing when importing a map previously done by Kswoll's Civ4Editor?
Your program is essential for the TWC's maps

 

[Houman]

What happens with the created additional ressources, does the editor pick them up for using?

Thanks
Houman

 

[BenGee171]

Thanks for that programm, i use it to complete my maps i created with the BMPtoWBS file convertor.
I want to ask you if there will be a new version and what changes would be included?

 

[Gr3yHound]

atm i can´t spend a single minute on the program and i m really sorry because of that. Especially the issue with kswoll his program should be fixed.

About the ressources, i´ve already thought about that problem when i started to code so some parts of the problem are already in the code but it´s not ready to use custom resources yet.

A workarround could mayb be to place a very rare bonus (like uranium) in a first rush and then use a txt editor and replace all uraniums by a new resource. Then reload the map and repeat that until you got all your ressources done. As last add the actual uranium bonuses.

And Bengee,
if i will release another version soon it will contain support for kswolls program and cropping. Furthermore (again IF i found time again) i´ll try to realize some custom stuff like custom ressources or so. But that´s not very likely to be happen. One thing i´ll definately do is cleaning up the sourcecode so i can release it and one of you guys can go on with it.
But whenever you use MapView, give the update checker a chance, he will notify you once i release something suprisingly anyway

 

[Tyranausaurus]

You're a SUPERSTAR!, just make sure the program accepts maps >360x160 . For we need it for the project!

 

[Gr3yHound]

WTH?! are you working @ nasa? =)