The Mongol DLC scenario

[Vordeo]

I tried out the Mongol scenario earlier today, and it looks like a lot of fun.

Found the CS directly to the south and conquered it easily, but then got declared on by Wu & Ramkhamhaeng. Think it was partly because of the close borders and the fact that Ram had allied with the CS, so that was on me, really.

At the same time another horse was exploring to the west along a road, and found two CS (both military IIRC). At that point I had to stop playing and went to work.

All that said, I wanted to pose the question to those who've tried the scenario: what's the better first move? Conquer the city states to the west and buff up your forces (via their joining you), or just rush the CS to the south and Ram/Wu with your initial units and the units the CS will give you? Or is it something else? I haven't fully explored the map.

And please, no comments on how horses are overpowered, that's an issue for another thread.

 

[es4]

My advice: Conquer Beijing first (it should take 5 turns at most). With 2 keshiks and 3 horsemen this shouldn't be hard; just make sure to not leave units next to spears.

Having the Great Wall basically means that with your extra movement, you should be able to snipe units that approach your borders without ever being in danger of losing a unit. The keshiks will get up to 100XP quickly (take the double XP policy first; if you don't annex cities that's on turn 5), and then the 2x attack will let you basically kill anything in the field with 1 unit.

 

[Morningcalm]

Another tip: time your destruction of major civs so that you can hog important techs that take ages to research (I saved 11 turns getting Rifling this way).

Personally the major civs I'd aim for are:
-Ram (Jin Empire)
-Wu (South China)
-Gandhi (India)
-Darius (Persia)

These are the civs closest to the Mongols' starting position, and the Russians are too far northwest to really do anything about, same with Byzantium and Arabia.

Oh yes, and use your stashes of money from conquering people to get CSes to ally with you, it'll stop them from becoming war allies of annoying major civs.

 

[Gunship_Down]

First try went pretty well, but by the time I reached the Persians my money was pretty much gone. And those darn Immortals are a pain.

I wonder if it's possible to take Japan instead.

 

[lymond]

Haven't played much since the basic game has not excited me much, but thought I would try this scenario.

Question though about City States: I immediately went and conquered the CS to the south. I haven't tried this, but I thought there was a way to defeat a CS and then liberate it so that it becomes an ally. Is this true or am I missing something?

 

[E66man]

I haven't tried this, but I thought there was a way to defeat a CS and then liberate it so that it becomes an ally. Is this true or am I missing something?

The key point is you have to liberate it from another player, not yourself.

 

[Vordeo]

The key point is you have to liberate it from another player, not yourself.

Maybe you can sell the CS to other players and then invade and liberate it?

 

[nokmirt]

Now the targets are the capital cities, or do you have to conquer all the cities in an Empire?

 

[edcrane]

Maybe you can sell the CS to other players and then invade and liberate it?

No, this doesn't work. When you recapture it, it doesn't give you the option to liberate.

 

[Vordeo]

No, this doesn't work. When you recapture it, it doesn't give you the option to liberate.

Ah, good to know.