Thorvald of Lym
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The Multipolar World (MP)
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You're muddling up your examples. Europe is neither largely commonwealth nor largely constitutional monarchies.
DT
Ha, no.
You're muddling up the examples.
I was comparing both the monarchic Commonwealth states and the non-monarchic states of much of Europe, which operate under Parliamentary systems but with a President instead.
I am essentially saying there is no difference other than a few head of states style themselves King or Queen, and others go with President. More or less, they are just figureheads. Hereditary or elected.
But whatever. This is OT.
When a nation is crushed, its financial records can be acquired by the victor.
The same reason when a government is thrown out in a coup, any NGO sponsor is revealed.
"I stand before you today with good tidings. The wars in North America, that had begun over the last two years, are over. The Quebec Civil War, with the timely intervention of our peacekeeping forces, has been resolved into a victory for the government there. On a Similar line, the 501st Legion has provided stabilizing forces to the NCSA, and the fighting there has also ended.
The first trial of our new nation has been met and overcome. The first endangered allies have been saved, the first opposing armies overcome, the first victory, acheived. I fear it will not be the last. This is a beginning, but not an end. The End lies far in the distant future, whne mankind finally knows peace. But our first steps towards that future have been taken. We can now stand out in the world and say that we have done well.
It was not, a painless victory. Many of our young men and women have given their lives for the peace that now prevails. And too, many Quebec people, both combatants and civilians, have also been killed, or wounded. We must console ourselves with the fact, that it could have been worse. Indeed, this was but one of many terrible wars being fought around the globe. It is one of the few to have been resolved quickly, as other wars may drag on into the years, and see greater death in the future. This fate has been avoided, and for that, let us all give thanks."
-Prime Minister Spencer Winstone announces the end of the Quebec War
DT
The first trial of our new nation has been met and overcome. The first endangered allies have been saved, the first opposing armies overcome, the first victory, acheived. I fear it will not be the last. This is a beginning, but not an end. The End lies far in the distant future, whne mankind finally knows peace. But our first steps towards that future have been taken. We can now stand out in the world and say that we have done well.
It was not, a painless victory. Many of our young men and women have given their lives for the peace that now prevails. And too, many Quebec people, both combatants and civilians, have also been killed, or wounded. We must console ourselves with the fact, that it could have been worse. Indeed, this was but one of many terrible wars being fought around the globe. It is one of the few to have been resolved quickly, as other wars may drag on into the years, and see greater death in the future. This fate has been avoided, and for that, let us all give thanks."
-Prime Minister Spencer Winstone announces the end of the Quebec War
DT
Thorvald of Lym
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Tani Coyote
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==El Alamein Redux==
Italy launches a surprise invasion of Egypt.
255 naval vessels move in to shell the crap out of the country.
Italy wins and the shelling kills 3 of Egypt's 5 armies and 24 of its air wings. All Egyptian vessels sunk, 70 Italian ships sunk. The death toll stands at 147,000 Egyptian soldiers and 140,000 Italians. 80,000 Egyptian civilians have perished.
150 planes swoop in to deal the next blow to Egypt.
All 15 Egyptian planes are destroyed; Italy loses 20 planes. 2 Italian planes are shot down.
130 planes proceed to bombard the Egyptians back to the Stone Age. 11 attempts later, the Egyptian military is no more. 1 Italian plane is shot down.
The death toll stands at 197,000 Egyptian soldiers and 186,000 Italians. 300,000 Egyptian civilians have perished. Italy's GDP shoots from 12236 to 17485.
Cuba, Hedjaz, Persia, Astrakhan, Philippines, NZ, Romania, Pakistan, Kazakhstan and France embargo Italy.
==Black Ops==
Terrorists suitcase Oz! The T1 nuke poised at a major city in Indochina fortunately does not go off.
Search for bases in PUB - 1 REDSPYIA base found, 1 Templar base, 1 Indian base.
Coup in Papua - failure.
Agents rob Papacy! Success! 1000 stolen!
Agents coup Crimea - failure
Agents steal from Naples. Failure!
Agents coup France - failure
Agents rob Papacy - failure
Agents steal Venezuela's plans - failure. All attackers killed.
Agents coup Catalonia - failure
Terrorists suitcase Korea! 1 of the T1 nukes detonates; another does not. The Japanese island off the coast is destroyed, killing 70,000 people. 4,000 soldiers also perish.
Agents search Korea - no bases found.
Agents coup Genoa - failure
Agents incite revolts in Papacy - failure
Agents steal from Lowlands - success. Lowlands report the loss of 150 agents(their entire force), ergo, their attacker was at least 1500 strong. 3422 stolen. The Poundzone is sure to get rocked by this theft.
Agents coup Hungary - failure
===REVOLTS===
Revolt in Oz
Revolt in Finland
Revolt in Papal States - 5 provinces rise up! 9 Papal armies are ready to fight. The Papacy extinguishes the rebellion. 50,000 rebels and 10,000 government soldiers perish.
===Coups===
Nordeste - 501st
Naples - Papacy. Civil War. Pro-Kongolese rebels.
Persia - Italy
Ojibwe - Iblis
Shanghai - Italy. Civil War. Rebels are pro-Chinese.
France - PUB. However, a later coup just a few days later throws out the pro-British government and replaces it with a pro-Italian regime.
Sicily - Yucatan. Civil War between pro-Papal and pro-Yucatan forces.
Italy launches a surprise invasion of Egypt.
255 naval vessels move in to shell the crap out of the country.
Italy wins and the shelling kills 3 of Egypt's 5 armies and 24 of its air wings. All Egyptian vessels sunk, 70 Italian ships sunk. The death toll stands at 147,000 Egyptian soldiers and 140,000 Italians. 80,000 Egyptian civilians have perished.
150 planes swoop in to deal the next blow to Egypt.
All 15 Egyptian planes are destroyed; Italy loses 20 planes. 2 Italian planes are shot down.
130 planes proceed to bombard the Egyptians back to the Stone Age. 11 attempts later, the Egyptian military is no more. 1 Italian plane is shot down.
The death toll stands at 197,000 Egyptian soldiers and 186,000 Italians. 300,000 Egyptian civilians have perished. Italy's GDP shoots from 12236 to 17485.
Cuba, Hedjaz, Persia, Astrakhan, Philippines, NZ, Romania, Pakistan, Kazakhstan and France embargo Italy.
==Black Ops==
Terrorists suitcase Oz! The T1 nuke poised at a major city in Indochina fortunately does not go off.
Search for bases in PUB - 1 REDSPYIA base found, 1 Templar base, 1 Indian base.
Coup in Papua - failure.
Agents rob Papacy! Success! 1000 stolen!
Agents coup Crimea - failure
Agents steal from Naples. Failure!
Agents coup France - failure
Agents rob Papacy - failure
Agents steal Venezuela's plans - failure. All attackers killed.
Agents coup Catalonia - failure
Terrorists suitcase Korea! 1 of the T1 nukes detonates; another does not. The Japanese island off the coast is destroyed, killing 70,000 people. 4,000 soldiers also perish.
Agents search Korea - no bases found.
Agents coup Genoa - failure
Agents incite revolts in Papacy - failure
Agents steal from Lowlands - success. Lowlands report the loss of 150 agents(their entire force), ergo, their attacker was at least 1500 strong. 3422 stolen. The Poundzone is sure to get rocked by this theft.
Agents coup Hungary - failure
===REVOLTS===
Revolt in Oz
Revolt in Finland
Revolt in Papal States - 5 provinces rise up! 9 Papal armies are ready to fight. The Papacy extinguishes the rebellion. 50,000 rebels and 10,000 government soldiers perish.
===Coups===
Nordeste - 501st
Naples - Papacy. Civil War. Pro-Kongolese rebels.
Persia - Italy
Ojibwe - Iblis
Shanghai - Italy. Civil War. Rebels are pro-Chinese.
France - PUB. However, a later coup just a few days later throws out the pro-British government and replaces it with a pro-Italian regime.
Sicily - Yucatan. Civil War between pro-Papal and pro-Yucatan forces.
Nukeknockout
Rusty Hinge
First off, no. Xinjiang is the legitimate successor to China. You're just a power-mad thug who has seized control of a nation by force.
A peace treaty would only be necessary if we were at war. Now, we cannot be at war. If we were at war, then we wouldn't be at war one year later. And now you say, maybe we were once at war but aren't now, but that can't be either. You see, if we had been at war, we wouldn't be speaking as there would be nothing left living within your "territory".
Weren't you listening? We can't be at war. Weren't you listening? You're not the legitimate government.
Now, Mr. George, the choice is upon you. Korea is prepared to recognize "China" as a state within the region if it releases Xinjiang to the control of the legitimate government. I'm afraid this is a rather important point, as Xinjiang(the aforementioned legitimate government of China) is a certain style of friend to Korea.
In absolutely unrelated news, Korea publicly admits to possession of a stockpile of Tier VII Chemical weapons; Tier II nuclear weapons; and Tier VI Province Busters. As being nice has not worked in this world, Korea freely admits aggressive action against it will be met with massive retaliation.
-Nukeknockout
Tambien
Theseus, Duke of Athens
United Kongo Republic
"Unis Kongo République"
"Unis Kongo République"
Announcer: "We now move to a national address by the Director."
"Last week the Union of Nations was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Boer State.
The Union of Nations was not aggressive towards the Boers, nor have they ever been. Indeed, the Union of Nations is, by it's very nature, unaggressive. The Union of Nations mandate is meant as an area of neutrality for all nations.
For their cassus belli, the Boers cited the lack of representation the Union of Nations suffer. This is simply untrue. Each UN district has its own local government, only affected by the larger body when embargoes are imposed, or some such occupancy.
This in and of itself calls for retaliation, for the Boers in effect attacked a neutral territory and disobeyed international law.
But the Boers were not content with only that. They brutally murdered twenty thousand Kongo soldiers and citizens. They caused massive damage to civilian and military life and infrastructure.
Not only that, but the size and scope of the invasion necessitated weeks of advanced planning against an unsuspecting victim.
And when this government asked for fair reparations for the deaths of so many innocents, the Boers refused!
These transgression cannot be allowed. The vile act of large scale murder perpetrated by the Boers, unparalleled even by the Children's Massacre, cannot be left unavenged. We cannot let such a blatantly evil act go unpunished!
With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph -- so help us God.
To avenge the most foul and unnatural murder of 20,000 unsuspecting troops, and many more civilians, I ask that the Supreme Legislative Body declare a state of war to exist between the United Kongo Republic and the Boer State.
Justice, Détermination, Courage!"
Mosher
Mushroom dad
I'm going to be delighted to see a Boer colony in central Africa.
Tambien
Theseus, Duke of Athens
Oh harharhar. Yeah. That will happen.
Thorvald of Lym
A Little Sketchy
God damn it, this game is turning into CyberNations.
Mosher
Mushroom dad
You do realize that the Boers is way stronger than you, right?
Tambien
Theseus, Duke of Athens
OOC: Possibly. Before a certain event takes place.
Jehoshua
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If your talking PB's Tam, you do know that basically every state has them, including the boers.
As to Korea, I condemn the suitcase nukings of them, as to the quotation revealed by REDSPYA, the Papal States admits it was considering an intervention in Korea in light of Korea's oppression of the Catholic Church in Korea, however ultimately we came to the conclusion that such an intervention would just cause more harm to the Korean people, and as such the Papal States decided intervening (especially with Koreas significant navy) was not a real option. We did not Nuke Korea, nor is there any real reason too considering our primary problem with them is their oppression of Catholics in their realm, which would naturally not be helped by wiping the whole place off the map.
As to Korea, I condemn the suitcase nukings of them, as to the quotation revealed by REDSPYA, the Papal States admits it was considering an intervention in Korea in light of Korea's oppression of the Catholic Church in Korea, however ultimately we came to the conclusion that such an intervention would just cause more harm to the Korean people, and as such the Papal States decided intervening (especially with Koreas significant navy) was not a real option. We did not Nuke Korea, nor is there any real reason too considering our primary problem with them is their oppression of Catholics in their realm, which would naturally not be helped by wiping the whole place off the map.
Tambien
Theseus, Duke of Athens
OOC: Good guess but no.
In any event, all of my comments about this are OOC... So the Boers should have no idea about anything, other than war.
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
OOC: I go away for one day to a trip to Boston and I return to see IOT turning into Cybernations. I need a <really cool> drink!
Whatever happened to the days when orders locked actually means Orders Locked and any diplomacy action that happens between the lock and the update are null and void and the GM does not take any diplomacy actions within that time frame.
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Diplomacy is fine, since it's not too hard to code. Though as for embargoes, I request they be restated in someone's orders EACH TURN (which shouldn't be too hard if you search your posts in the thread) so as to avoid confusion. I'm only human so. 
Though any orders pertaining to spending and combat are null and void post-lock. Likewise, NPCs can only use pre-lock information to their advantage. Case in point: any anti-Chinese NPC would need to wait until next turn to hurt China, since it did not exist at turn start.
Empire of Italy:
Italy accepts the non-aggression pact with the Coruscantis. With no particular interest in the North American continent, this pact will hopefully cement our mutual commitment to peace.
Italy is also announcing that, with the consent of Papal States, it has admitted Russia into the Italian Alliance. Stability and peace will hopefully grip Europe, rather than chaos and war.
In a lavish ceremony in Alexandria, his majesty King Amadeus X of Italy has been formally crowned as King of the Egyptians. Shortly later in Bari, he was christened Emperor Amadeus I of the Eastern Mediterranean Empire. The Hungarians had, in anticipation of the move, formally approved him as King of Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Transylvania and West Bulgaria, allowing themselves to be ruled in personal union. The states of Genoa and Greenland have also embraced the personal union after plebiscites.
Political analysts suspect the rapid conquest of Egypt was to strengthen Italy's bid for the Suez canal once the territory becomes inhabitable. As money pours into Egypt, schools are being refurbished to include a wider range of programs, but most importantly, the Italian language has been mandated as part of the curriculum alongside the native Anport. With the decline of the Angolan empire, Anport has been starting to fall out of use, though this state infusion of resources is sure to exacerbate the decline.
A large Italian garrison has been stationed in the region to put down the likely uprisings. Approximately 150,000 troops are expected to be lost over the course of 10 years. The government views the huge industrial and population boost from the territory as a decent trade off, however. Never mind, rebels make for excellent hands-on training.
Russian Empire:
Russia has directed the Patriarch of Moscow, to begin talks with the Papacy to reunite the Russian Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church. It is not expected any such union will be easy to enact, due to the democratic nature of orthodoxy and conflicting views. But if the Churches were one at one time, why can they not be one again?
Russia is also proud to announce that President Dimitri Litvitov(serving since 2163) has, riding a tide of popularity after his victory over Poland, invigoration of national pride, and his measures to combat corruption, been coronated as Dmitry II of Russia.
The Patriarch, meanwhile, has begun to personally visit the Catholic Churches of once-Polish Russia. Russia being a majority Catholic nation, the local Churches are being re-purposed for Orthodox use; the government seems to more or less be overseeing and subsidising religious segregation, with Catholics in the East and Orthodoxists in the West. Ethnic tensions, once a plague in Eastern Europe, have become nil with the end of the Polish nation and the assimilation of the Belarussians into the Russian nationality.
Boers:
"And when this government asked for fair reparations for the deaths of so many innocents, the Boers refused!"
This is a blatantly incorrect statement. The Republic offered compensation for the losses to the same tune Poland offered its victims. If Poland can be so readily forgiven, why can't the Boers?
We seize what is rightfully Boer land, we are demons. Poland kills one-seventh of the world, and they get away scot-free just because they happen to change government. What is this?
The loss of the Kongolese soldiers present was unfortunate, though they signed up for this when they decided to serve the Union of Nations.
As for being undemocratic, we remind you that the citizens of the UN territories - approx. 3.5% of the world population - are not counted for Assembly seats. They are denied representation in world affairs. Sure they may control their local governments, but they have ZERO say in whether the UN raises taxes on them, whether it closes the canals and straits and thus ruins the livelihoods of those present, or whether any law binding on them is passed. It is unjust for a state to collect taxes and impose obligations on the citizenry when they don't even have a chance to prevent such.
But no matter. We will settle this on the battlefield, and wonder how red the Kongo will have to turn before the government sees reason and accepts peace.
Order of Iblis:
In response to the mass carnage and discord these last two years have revealed, the Iblis has released the following statement:
The Demon Lord has, on a more serious note, taken the title of Demon Overlord, raising the previously most-senior individuals beneath him to the title of Demon Lord. With the Order's growing influence on the world stage, Lord Iblis has felt the time has come for a more grand title, one never taken before. Previous high-ranking demons such as the Prelates Enerjak and Venice have been elevated to the Demon Lord title, due to their status as members of his inner circle.
The Demon Realm has, furthermore, begun to offer its services to the wider world. Cash can be sent to the DR, of which 5% will be collected and the scientific bonus applied to the rest. So, to recap, if 1000 gold is sent to the DR, it will keep 50 of it, and the contributing state will get 1045 in research.
Acknowledging the presence of other scientific states, the Iblis has made note that he will continue to slash prices as easily as his claws slash a person's flesh so as to remain competitive.
Yucatan Republic:
The chaos in the 501st is worrying. While we see it as a struggle of socialism versus capitalism, we intend to remain neutral in this conflict. We advise our Comintern allies to do the same. Let capitalism do itself in, as prophesised by those such as Marx.
Finland:
Finland condemns the imperialist actions of Italy, Russia, China, Iblis, and the Boers. As of now, all these states are hereby embargoed and denied access to the ports of Finland and Dubai.
Finland has, furthermore, formed a democratic, non-interventionist, libertarian socialist alliance, the Socialist Alliance, as an alternative to the Comintern.
To stimulate investment, the state has also begun cutting unnecessary regulations on personal behavior. Things such as gambling, drug production, transportation, sale and use, and prostitution have all been legalised or decriminalised across the board. In the latter case, this pends studies to determine further action. (Finland goes from Social Liberal to Social libertarian)
Though any orders pertaining to spending and combat are null and void post-lock. Likewise, NPCs can only use pre-lock information to their advantage. Case in point: any anti-Chinese NPC would need to wait until next turn to hurt China, since it did not exist at turn start.
Empire of Italy:
Italy accepts the non-aggression pact with the Coruscantis. With no particular interest in the North American continent, this pact will hopefully cement our mutual commitment to peace.
Italy is also announcing that, with the consent of Papal States, it has admitted Russia into the Italian Alliance. Stability and peace will hopefully grip Europe, rather than chaos and war.
In a lavish ceremony in Alexandria, his majesty King Amadeus X of Italy has been formally crowned as King of the Egyptians. Shortly later in Bari, he was christened Emperor Amadeus I of the Eastern Mediterranean Empire. The Hungarians had, in anticipation of the move, formally approved him as King of Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Transylvania and West Bulgaria, allowing themselves to be ruled in personal union. The states of Genoa and Greenland have also embraced the personal union after plebiscites.
Political analysts suspect the rapid conquest of Egypt was to strengthen Italy's bid for the Suez canal once the territory becomes inhabitable. As money pours into Egypt, schools are being refurbished to include a wider range of programs, but most importantly, the Italian language has been mandated as part of the curriculum alongside the native Anport. With the decline of the Angolan empire, Anport has been starting to fall out of use, though this state infusion of resources is sure to exacerbate the decline.
A large Italian garrison has been stationed in the region to put down the likely uprisings. Approximately 150,000 troops are expected to be lost over the course of 10 years. The government views the huge industrial and population boost from the territory as a decent trade off, however. Never mind, rebels make for excellent hands-on training.
Russian Empire:
Russia has directed the Patriarch of Moscow, to begin talks with the Papacy to reunite the Russian Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church. It is not expected any such union will be easy to enact, due to the democratic nature of orthodoxy and conflicting views. But if the Churches were one at one time, why can they not be one again?
Russia is also proud to announce that President Dimitri Litvitov(serving since 2163) has, riding a tide of popularity after his victory over Poland, invigoration of national pride, and his measures to combat corruption, been coronated as Dmitry II of Russia.
The Patriarch, meanwhile, has begun to personally visit the Catholic Churches of once-Polish Russia. Russia being a majority Catholic nation, the local Churches are being re-purposed for Orthodox use; the government seems to more or less be overseeing and subsidising religious segregation, with Catholics in the East and Orthodoxists in the West. Ethnic tensions, once a plague in Eastern Europe, have become nil with the end of the Polish nation and the assimilation of the Belarussians into the Russian nationality.
Boers:
"And when this government asked for fair reparations for the deaths of so many innocents, the Boers refused!"
This is a blatantly incorrect statement. The Republic offered compensation for the losses to the same tune Poland offered its victims. If Poland can be so readily forgiven, why can't the Boers?
We seize what is rightfully Boer land, we are demons. Poland kills one-seventh of the world, and they get away scot-free just because they happen to change government. What is this?
The loss of the Kongolese soldiers present was unfortunate, though they signed up for this when they decided to serve the Union of Nations.
As for being undemocratic, we remind you that the citizens of the UN territories - approx. 3.5% of the world population - are not counted for Assembly seats. They are denied representation in world affairs. Sure they may control their local governments, but they have ZERO say in whether the UN raises taxes on them, whether it closes the canals and straits and thus ruins the livelihoods of those present, or whether any law binding on them is passed. It is unjust for a state to collect taxes and impose obligations on the citizenry when they don't even have a chance to prevent such.
But no matter. We will settle this on the battlefield, and wonder how red the Kongo will have to turn before the government sees reason and accepts peace.
Order of Iblis:
In response to the mass carnage and discord these last two years have revealed, the Iblis has released the following statement:
The Demon Lord has, on a more serious note, taken the title of Demon Overlord, raising the previously most-senior individuals beneath him to the title of Demon Lord. With the Order's growing influence on the world stage, Lord Iblis has felt the time has come for a more grand title, one never taken before. Previous high-ranking demons such as the Prelates Enerjak and Venice have been elevated to the Demon Lord title, due to their status as members of his inner circle.
The Demon Realm has, furthermore, begun to offer its services to the wider world. Cash can be sent to the DR, of which 5% will be collected and the scientific bonus applied to the rest. So, to recap, if 1000 gold is sent to the DR, it will keep 50 of it, and the contributing state will get 1045 in research.
Acknowledging the presence of other scientific states, the Iblis has made note that he will continue to slash prices as easily as his claws slash a person's flesh so as to remain competitive.
Yucatan Republic:
The chaos in the 501st is worrying. While we see it as a struggle of socialism versus capitalism, we intend to remain neutral in this conflict. We advise our Comintern allies to do the same. Let capitalism do itself in, as prophesised by those such as Marx.
Finland:
Finland condemns the imperialist actions of Italy, Russia, China, Iblis, and the Boers. As of now, all these states are hereby embargoed and denied access to the ports of Finland and Dubai.
Finland has, furthermore, formed a democratic, non-interventionist, libertarian socialist alliance, the Socialist Alliance, as an alternative to the Comintern.
To stimulate investment, the state has also begun cutting unnecessary regulations on personal behavior. Things such as gambling, drug production, transportation, sale and use, and prostitution have all been legalised or decriminalised across the board. In the latter case, this pends studies to determine further action. (Finland goes from Social Liberal to Social libertarian)
Can everyone doing screenshots make their browser's window small enough to fit inside most people's screens? I hate scrolling to the right.
Incidentally, I declare MORTAL KOMBAT!
Link to video.
Incidentally, I declare MORTAL KOMBAT!
Link to video.
christos200
Never tell me the odds
The nations support me. If they didnt support me, why did against res 32 Chinese Intervention Force?
China is willing to negotiate with korea and Mongola about a better relation with those states. However Korea, you are wrong if you think that you can use nukes against China.
Also China asks to join IRA.
China is willing to negotiate with korea and Mongola about a better relation with those states. However Korea, you are wrong if you think that you can use nukes against China.
Also China asks to join IRA.
christos200
Never tell me the odds
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