The Official Insane What If Thread
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Huayna Capac357
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What if, as in the book 1421, Zhu Di's reign had not ended so early, and if his reign had been in its golden age longer (not just a little less than a year), say 10 or 20 years. Would China have conquered N. America, S. America, or maybe Europe and Africa?
aronnax
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What if Elizabeth I got married and had Kings?
What would be of the Tudor Dynasty
Scotland and England would not have been united!
What would be of the Tudor Dynasty
Scotland and England would not have been united!
Luckymoose
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RedRalph
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by that stage it was too late, things would have got even worse. The Union would have dissolved maybe a year later.
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
No. But, the chances of us speaking English or any Western European language right now would be significantly diminished.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
What if I died?
mr_lewington
King
what if, i know this completely contridicts the war, Japan surrendered in may 1945 and the US nuked say, Leipzig and Bonn
What if Greece and Italy were still Hellenistic?
What if the Jews became Hellenists (there was a point where they could have, but the fundamentalist Jews somehow stopped it)?
What if Iran was still Zoroastrian?
What if Alexander's empire continued beyond him?
What if the Jews became Hellenists (there was a point where they could have, but the fundamentalist Jews somehow stopped it)?
What if Iran was still Zoroastrian?
What if Alexander's empire continued beyond him?
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
What if the Aztecs defeated the Spanish and went back overseas in their boats?
thomas.berubeg
Wandering the World
i rememebr reading somewhere that the aztecs weren't too far from an iron age, and could probably within a hundred years have sailed the atlantic, had they waned too... don't know where though...
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
the Spanish would come back, but by then...
1. The Aztecs would've gained some level of immunity to disease, because obviously in this alternative history they survived the first attack.
2. They would've been more smarter, and probably institute different changes to their military and political system to adapt to the threat.
3. They could've even stolen and learned to use a couple of the Spanish weapons, not that it would've helped - they could easily defeat the Spanish with lesser weaponry.
4. Meaning that an Aztec state could've survived in Spain.
5. Meaning that possibly the very future of America couold be different.
6. Meaning that perhaps even thuogh America could've been born, there would've been no Mexican war, which would've meant that the Civil War would have happened sooner because there wouldn't be more new territories to or not to put slaves in, meaning that the entire history of the United States would be quite radically different.
7. Meaning that the Spanish wouldn't have gotten as rich as they could, and European history would've thus been altered. Perhaps a different kind of World Wars?
8. Meaning that possibly East Asian (i.e. Chinese) contact with the "Pre-Columbian" empires could have surely happened, thuogh of course not a huge fleet, meaning... that perhaps the Chinese, because of their "ALL ARE BARBS! LETS SINICIZE THEM!" mentality, would've tried to make the Aztecs more sinicized. meaning...
9. Today, some things would be "Made in Aztecland" and they would contain tons of lead
or human blood.
mr_lewington
King
quote homer simpson "What if we make a time machine and stop England from being invented!"
This is the premise of Robert Silverberg's book Roma Eterna. Since the Hebrews never got out of Egypt, they never made it to Canaan. Since they never made it there, King David was never born. The Twelve Tribes never existed, and never had their troubles with the Persians, Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans, etc. Thus, Jesus was never born, and there was no Christianity to rival and eventually supplant the Roman state religion.
Central European history was completely different. Rome's rivalries with Greece continued (Rome never completely conquered Greece) for many centuries. And when Romans finally got around to finding the New World, they discovered that the Vikings had gotten there first and made contact with the Aztecs.
While I would question some of Silverberg's extrapolations, it's still an interesting read.
I started writing a fanfic where Alexander did not die young, and continued all across Asia and made it across the Atlantic to the New World. Therefore, the Greeks ended up fighting the North American natives, and when I dropped the characters from the TV show Sliders into the story, it was indeed true that some day they were going to slide into a world where everybody spoke Greek and Quinn/Arturo were completely at home.
mr_lewington
King
was alexander going to go back to India? i thought he was going to go west next, like in arabia and carthage
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
^he made a deal with the Indian king(s), even an alliance maybe. there was no point in going that further than India, for 1. too far. 2. china 3. Vietnam , so then he'd focus on closer things. he was also planning to invade Arabia before he died. wondered what would've happend to Islam if that happene.d
3. Vietnam , so then he'd focus on closer things. he was also planning to invade Arabia before he died. wondered what would've happend to Islam if that happene.d
mr_lewington
King
might not even have made it far into arabia, plenty of hot scorching desert there
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