The Pyramids--Messed Up Since Civ 1

solvero said:
Today researches show that there wasn't slavery in acient egypt. I think that cultural bonus is the fittest to reality, but I think that the current bonus is better to the game which is more important.

That sounds political more than scientific. After all, the jews were the slaves and since there are some scientific thesis denying the holocaust, why not go further and deny the jew slavery?
 
The Pyramid- +1 happiness per city because the dead were buried there and happy because it is roomy.
You probably already knew this: the pyramids aren't hollow. Most rooms were small rooms and are underneath.

Today researches show that there wasn't slavery in acient egypt. I think that cultural bonus is the fittest to reality, but I think that the current bonus is better to the game which is more important.
I thought that MOST workers weren't slaves. Because of the flood plains the farmers couldn't work the lands, so they were asked to build the pyramids (and you can't really refuse gods, now can you). There were still slaves from conquered lands.

A good idea would be to have the pyramids divide the whipping cost by 2. Like the Kremlin does.
 
in reality, did the pyramids really help Ancient Egypt at all? (except for the pharoahs!) surely they just lowered the egyptian morale. only real good thing is the architectural excellence or how long Giza has lasted
 
Extensive research and computer modeling at MIT has conclusively shown that the pyramids were a works project designed to trim down the corpulence of the Egyptian populace which had become obese due to the lack of activity due to the use of slaves who took over all the mundane tasks such as farming and cleaning and cooking. The Egyptians were obviously anorexic; just look at their art. And, did you ever see a fat mummy? Eh? It was the first stair-stepper program and quite a success.
 
The Egyptians were obviously anorexic; just look at their art. And, did you ever see a fat mummy? Eh? It was the first stair-stepper program and quite a success.

maybe they should provide a health bonus. Or immunity against the unhealth swampland of the nile.
 
Most of the workers who build the Pyramids were actually skilled masons, carpenters and the like.

Slaves wouldn't be able to pull it off.
 
Older than Dirt said:
Extensive research and computer modeling at MIT has conclusively shown that the pyramids were a works project designed to trim down the corpulence of the Egyptian populace which had become obese due to the lack of activity due to the use of slaves who took over all the mundane tasks such as farming and cleaning and cooking. The Egyptians were obviously anorexic; just look at their art. And, did you ever see a fat mummy? Eh? It was the first stair-stepper program and quite a success.

LOL. That's good.
 
I'm talking about any of it, Pantastic.

Slaves wouldn't have been able to make the Pyramids, its quite possible they used slaves to transport the raw materials, extract the raw materials, but the actual production of the Pyramids requires great skill, not just the engineers, but for the Masons, carpenters and the like.
 
Guerra said:
I'm talking about any of it, Pantastic.

Slaves wouldn't have been able to make the Pyramids, its quite possible they used slaves to transport the raw materials, extract the raw materials, but the actual production of the Pyramids requires great skill, not just the engineers, but for the Masons, carpenters and the like.
i think that's a joke: slaves weren't able to pull of the nose of the Sphinx
 
I think the Pyramids should be similar to the Crusades in Civ 2, they were a scientic, engineering and social achievement because the requirements to build them mandates new techniques in math, construction, transport etc etc. This should give the builder a temporary increase in production, trade and science because the building them likely drove the achievements in math, sci, social organization etc.

The same can be said for the Great Wall, was never manned mile by mile by any dynasty and the military advantage is barely useful other than an incumbrance to a retreating force. The society obviously had the stability and organization to finish the construction and this should be worth something.
 
pholkhero said:
i think that's a joke: slaves weren't able to pull of the nose of the Sphinx


Wasn't it was blown of by the Napoleon troops during their stay in Egypt.:confused:
 
Actually the bit about Napoleon's troops breaking the nose isn't really true.

From the Wiki article:
The 1 m wide nose on the face is missing. It has long been presumed that the nose had been broken off by a cannon ball fired by Napoléon's soldiers. However, sketches of the Sphinx by Frederick Lewis Norden made in 1737 and published in 1755 illustrate the Sphinx without a nose. The Egyptian historian al-Maqrizi, writing in the 15th century, attributes the vandalism to Muhammad Sa'im al-Dahr, a Sufi fanatic from the khanqah of Sa'id al-Su'ada. In 1378, upon finding the Egyptian peasants making offerings to the Sphinx in the hope of increasing their harvest, Sa'im al-Dahr was so outraged that he destroyed the nose. Al-Maqrizi describes the Sphinx as the "Nile talisman" on which the locals believed the cycle of inundation depended.
 
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