To be fair, it was always anti-immigrant. Only with a special focus on the illegal part.
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The Rewards of a blank check - African American issues and illegal immigration
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To be fair, it was always anti-immigrant. Only with a special focus on the illegal part.
And that's good why? Recent African immigrants tend to be educated and successful people.
Formaldehyde
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I'm sure you can point out some examples of this. Right?
What makes you think a legitimate news organization like McClatchy would be treated the same way?
And you still haven't pointed out what you think is so important or worthy of discussion from this article. Or why you would possibly think it would be "ignored" here.
Because ANYTHING that suggests that illegal immigration is baneful is panned on this forum. Thus, the article suggests that high illegal tolerance has led to low employment
for Afrikan Americans. So it will be ignored. It is straight line observation of the 'Modus'
of the majority of the posters. They are incapable of recognition that illegal immigration has many downsides.
The reasons are many but do not need to be discussed here. The vote has already been
taken. http://judiciary.house.gov/news/07202011.html
Its over. YOU can cry about it. Right now they are delaying as much as they can.
But in the end, its over.
What I get from this article is the same message I've always seen in the undocumented worker issue: they drive down wages for everyone who isn't unionized because cash employers face no real risk in hiring them.
The solution, to me, is to bring everyone out from the shadows - that's the sort of rising tide I'd like to see.
Not to mention that the workers themselves would be far less easily abused and taken advantage of.
I view this entirely through the lens of employer abuses against the workers.
The solution, to me, is to bring everyone out from the shadows - that's the sort of rising tide I'd like to see.
Not to mention that the workers themselves would be far less easily abused and taken advantage of.
I view this entirely through the lens of employer abuses against the workers.
They also challenge the belief that trying to get out, effectively, of competition is possible or advisable. Your logic is the same one which puts up tariffs and bans foreign imports: we know that competition means that British workers will have to compete with Chinese, but we forget that the consequence of not playing the game - not getting on the globalisation train, if you like - is to be left behind. If we don't allow competition in, we just stagnate, and end up keeping all of our misery to ourselves while other countries are able to advance.
I have no conclusion to advance. The article confirms my own observations.
Were I Afrikan American, I would be more than slightly upset. But I am not.
Carras Dad
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i do wonder, dont you spell "africa" with a c in english?
If you enjoy playing against a stacked deck w China, by all means go ahead.
Your conclusion is ONE conclusion, valid only if the other variables remain unchanged.
I have my own opinion, and I will retain it.
In modern parlance it is called an 'affectation'. I am a wargamer, first, last, and always.
Look up the rendering of the korps placed in NAfrika in 1942 by the Germans.
I neither hide it, nor will I discontinue it. If my posts offend you, use ignore.
Carras Dad
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you use the german spelling because the wehrmacht was cool?
alright...
alright...
That is YOUR conclusion. Not anything I have said.
We do... 'Afrika' is the German spelling, although the adjective is 'Afrikanisch'. I'm not really sure what to make of the persistent and quite idiosyncratic error: the only 'excuse' I can think of is that we commonly use 'Afrika Korps' to denote the German forces in North Africa during the Second World War.
EDIT: cross-post, but it seems my hunch was correct. It's not an affectation, though; it's just wrong. It also expresses a strange reverence for a term associated with the Third Reich, and so the literary critic in my cannot help but draw the conclusion...
The point is that China will play anyway; you can't deny them the benefits of globalisation, because they've got the rest of the world, and the USA's ability to upset things by sulking and refusing to play is rapidly diminishing: quite frankly, any attempt at retrenchment would only accelerate that trend. It is one conclusion, but it's one demonstrated by experience - the difference between accepting and rejecting the global economy is quite literally the difference between East and West Berlin. If you don't accept immigrants, the inevitable, causual result will be a decline in the number of able people, across every field imaginable. I think this is more 'stacking the deck' when it comes to competing internationally; it's stacking it against oneself.
Which rather calls into question the point of discussing it so energetically on this forum.
You ignore that there may be a very specific game with that spelling that I revere
above all others =) Not that I owe you an explanation for anything.
I'm a little confused - was this in response to my comment on work place safety and compensation?
He wasnt responding to you at all =)
Borachio
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To convert others to the "correct" point of view, perhaps?
A civilizing, missionary, or educative ambition, if you like.
It's a point of view, certainly. I don't suppose most people are seeking to find out the truth of any issue when they post here. Though some may well do.
Actually the reality is much closer to this - 'There are no sinners in heaven'
It takes no skill whatever to hang out with people you agree with already.
