The Spanish Ripoff

[turingmachine]

The Double Pack isn't less of value as you still get Inca, the scenario, and the ability to play Spain in Vanilla games (which is essentially what you payed for initially; the G&K Spain almost definitly won't be playable in Vanilla games). The fact the the other DLC is compatible with G&K is an addition to the original product, not something originally advertised. With that said, they will probably lower the price of the Double Pack to be about the same as a standard Civ +Scenario DLC.

 

[Txurce]

I have to admit to some disappointment as well as relief that thadian hasn't responded in the last day or so. Of course the longer this thread went, the more he confirmed to 2K that they can safely ignore complaints like his.

 

[Louis XXIV]

The Double Pack isn't less of value as you still get Inca, the scenario, and the ability to play Spain in Vanilla games (which is essentially what you payed for initially; the G&K Spain almost definitly won't be playable in Vanilla games). The fact the the other DLC is compatible with G&K is an addition to the original product, not something originally advertised. With that said, they will probably lower the price of the Double Pack to be about the same as a standard Civ +Scenario DLC.

Well, you were also paying to get it quicker, rather than having to wait until G&K was released. You can't really do that if you buy just the Inca later. I think a G&K DLC of the Inca plus the scenario makes a lot of sense so you can pay normal DLC price and not doublepack price.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Few months ago I voiced my opinion on these and it did not end up well.

So all I know is there's no point in aruging, because nobody will be able to change anybody's view. I wish people who already have Spain would get something else. But I know we won't ,and to be honest, at this point, I don't even care.

Nobody can change this and to be honest I don't even care. All I know is that this will never end, just let it be, and let people have their respective opinions, if you don't find it unfair, that's fine. If you find it unfair, that's fine. can you change it? No. At this stage the game is nearly completed the developers are VERY unlikely to remove Spain if people had a .... those... thign with signatures to change stuff..

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

If it really bothers you that G&K has an additional civ that you already paid for separately, just wait till the expansion goes on sale for $4 cheaper than the initial offering.

 

[Dark_Jedi06]

[...] if people had a .... those... thign with signatures to change stuff..

Petition?

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Few months ago I voiced my opinion on these and it did not end up well.

So all I know is there's no point in aruging, because nobody will be able to change anybody's view. I wish people who already have Spain would get something else. But I know we won't ,and to be honest, at this point, I don't even care.

Nobody can change this and to be honest I don't even care. All I know is that this will never end, just let it be, and let people have their respective opinions, if you don't find it unfair, that's fine. If you find it unfair, that's fine. can you change it? No. At this stage the game is nearly completed the developers are VERY unlikely to remove Spain if people had a .... those... thign with signatures to change stuff..

Or just set up your game to play two different Spanish opponents.

 

[bonafide11]

I just go back to Warlords and Beyond the Sword for Civ IV. If you bought Warlords for $30, you got several new civs. A year later, when Beyond the Sword was released, all of the civs from Warlords were included. But nobody complained about it from what I remember. Clearly there is enough in the expansion pack to justify paying $30 for it that one civ that you already purchased for $3 is not that big of a deal.

 

[Alexastor]

tl;dr

I bought the DLC when it was released and meanwhile it was 50% (or even 60% IIRC), now did they rip me off?

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Who would've bought the DLC if they knew prior to the release of Spain that the Expansion pack had Spain in it?

I actually don't find myself being more "ripped off" just that it's bit unfair.

 

[lolno]

The time spent posting here would have translated to at least 3 DLC civs working at minimum wage, after tax

 

[Gintoki89]

Who would've bought the DLC if they knew prior to the release of Spain that the Expansion pack had Spain in it?.

Me, cause I got to play with Spain for a year before the expansion pack came out, and Spain's cost is not that much.

 

[Louis XXIV]

Who would've bought the DLC if they knew prior to the release of Spain that the Expansion pack had Spain in it?

I actually don't find myself being more "ripped off" just that it's bit unfair.

I absolutely would have. I probably wouldn't have bought it last week, but I would have bought it a year and a half ago.

 

[SomethingCronic]

Who would've bought the DLC if they knew prior to the release of Spain that the Expansion pack had Spain in it?

I actually don't find myself being more "ripped off" just that it's bit unfair.

I would have and did. Inca >>Spain anyway, worth the cost just for them... And all you new Spain-gainers are missing out on the gem of the pack!

Would I have bought just Spain o. It's own a year ago? Yes again, if only because I'm a huge Civ fan more than any other game in fact, and for such a low price it brings it's value ten times over. Everyone who gets Spain now are fortunate - good for them, I don't feel cheated at all.

I must have wasted 3 quid on much worse endeavours than a civ dlc over the last year, in fact I'm sure a lot more.

 

[bonafide11]

I definitely would have still bought the DLC a year and a half ago if I knew one of the civs would be included in an expansion. I only paid $5 for it and I got to play with them for a long time before other people got them for free. I was well aware that there was a good chance that it would happen anyway since it happened with Warlords -> Beyond the Sword.

 

[Roltel]

Who would've bought the DLC if they knew prior to the release of Spain that the Expansion pack had Spain in it?

Definitely yes!

 

[Louis XXIV]

I think the only question is if I would have avoided Korea if everything would be included. I've really enjoyed the Wonder Pack and I'd probably have bought Korea just for the value even if I wouldn't get as much use out of them. Even if it were the case, I think I'd have gotten my money's worth by now (the last DLC release was well before Christmas, iirc).

 

[Mango Elephant]

I definitely would have still bought the DLC a year and a half ago if I knew one of the civs would be included in an expansion. I only paid $5 for it and I got to play with them for a long time before other people got them for free. I was well aware that there was a good chance that it would happen anyway since it happened with Warlords -> Beyond the Sword.

I wasn't really around that much back then, but how much of an unholy fuss did people throw when BtS came out for the same reason as right now?

 

[Louis XXIV]

I don't really remember. They might have accepted it because it was the same thing as Civ3: Conquests. I suppose, at the time, people accepted it because it allowed for uniform multiplayer games, though, so it might not be a full apples to apples comparison.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

At this stage I stopped caring that Spain is in, I don't know why I find it unfair, all I know I just feel that way, and all I know that nobody is gonna manage to change anybody's opinion, so arguing is pretty much useless since it's not gonna get anybody anywhere.

It's also VERY ironic that I don't find it fair and yet have picture of Isabella as my avatar xD

Also, sicne people are refering to the idea of "Spain being released early" to the same view as it being a demo, would you purchase a 3 euro demo of Civ 5? Before Civ 5 was released?