Masquerouge
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But you misspelled biggest in your post #3 so you point has been missed.
Ah ah ah true. Though buggest is funny!
The Swatika
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Ah ah ah true. Though buggest is funny!
Gilder
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Because Westerners are told from birth since WW2, that the swastika was the symbol of the Nazis and only the Nazis. We are given no mention to other possible meanings.
MjM
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I get flak for things like this alot. Alot of people see the Iron Cross that way as well. Even the Confederate Flag, although that is for a much different reason. People need to see the symbol, without it's meaning.
Buddhists mostly use the wheel of law (Dharmachakra) for their symbol and Hindus use the Om
Buddhist wheel
Hindu Om
As for the swastika it's used more as a good luck emblam, similar to ancient egyptian use of the ankh.
Buddhist wheel
Hindu Om
As for the swastika it's used more as a good luck emblam, similar to ancient egyptian use of the ankh.
So do the Greeks and Romans.
Here's an interesting passage on the use of the symbol
(from http://www.luckymojo.com/swastika.html)
The Mound Builders inhabited the Ohio River Valley and the Cliff Dwellers lived in the Southwestern United States; however, both did use the swastika, as did the Mayas of Mexico. Furthermore, although the swastika may look like four "L's" to one who uses the Roman alphabet, in Greek it forms four Gammas ("G's"), in Hebrew it can be seen as four Daleths ("D's"), and among the non-literate people of North America, it corresponded to no letters at all. Thus the ascription of Luck, Light, Love, and Life to the amulet is simply an English mnemonic, although it is prettily reinforced on this card by images of a horseshoe (luck), the rising Sun (light), twin hearts (love), and Earth (life). Finally, not mentioned in the text is the swastika's use as the specific emblem of Ganesha, the Hindu god of good luck, who is also represented as an elephant.
Here's an interesting passage on the use of the symbol
(from http://www.luckymojo.com/swastika.html)
The Mound Builders inhabited the Ohio River Valley and the Cliff Dwellers lived in the Southwestern United States; however, both did use the swastika, as did the Mayas of Mexico. Furthermore, although the swastika may look like four "L's" to one who uses the Roman alphabet, in Greek it forms four Gammas ("G's"), in Hebrew it can be seen as four Daleths ("D's"), and among the non-literate people of North America, it corresponded to no letters at all. Thus the ascription of Luck, Light, Love, and Life to the amulet is simply an English mnemonic, although it is prettily reinforced on this card by images of a horseshoe (luck), the rising Sun (light), twin hearts (love), and Earth (life). Finally, not mentioned in the text is the swastika's use as the specific emblem of Ganesha, the Hindu god of good luck, who is also represented as an elephant.
Ansar
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If you show me that, I'll think Nazi.
If you show me that, I'll think India.
If you show me that, I'll just look at you with a puzzled face.
Guangxi
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the celtic cross bears similarity.
the basque cross even more so.
apparently from mongolia.
anyway, its just a common sun symbol, which symbolised the eternal cycle of the sun.
and yes, this is just junk i found on imagesearch without doing much research.
amadeus
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It's Finland.If you show me that, I'll just look at you with a puzzled face.
Ansar
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I know, I read the opening post.
DJ Bonebraker
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As a 3-year resident of Japan, I can confirm this... I also immdediately think "Buddhist temple" if I see a swastika on the map. The Swastika is a symbol for eternity or immortality in Buddhism (well, Zen Buddhism, at least)... Unfortunately, Hitler corrupted the symbol and used it in his Nazi propoganda machine, which is why the WEST thinks the Swastika is evil.
I personally would never use it unless in the context of Buddhism (and yes, there was a Buddhist temple not far outside the US Navy Base in Yokosuka that had two dark blue banners with white swastikas, or Manji as the Japanese call them, haning over the front door. Needless to say it got a lot of questioning stares from American sailors passing by
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No kidding. Perhaps one just wanted to to save money on hair grooming by choosing a quick, simple style they could do themselves.
skadistic
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On a serious note I have a shaved head M1 flight white Tshirt/polo (mostly Fred Perry) and jack boots on everyday I go to a job site. If you were to see me you'd think I was a member of the Aryan Nation/National Front/British Movement or any other neo-nazi skin head group. But truth be known I'm not a raging racist. The skin head look came well before it was perverted by the idiot nazis. I've a few friends by taking the time to sit down and discuse the in and outs of the subject.
thenooblet22
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plarq
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The black Swastika with red background is a nazi symbol, otherwise it isn't.
DJ Bonebraker
a.k.a Laura
On an interesting and related note, the astronomer, Carl Sagan, theorized that the reason that so many different cultures around the world had the swastika as a symbol is related to comets.
If a comet, on approach to the sun, passes the earth so that the tail streams directly behind it, it looks like a giant plus sign. If the comet rotates, it will look like a swastika, particularly the one in Guangxi's post. He even had pictures of such comets in his book on comets (called Comets) to back that up. Wheter or not its true is open to debate.
A bit closer to home, though, my brother and I were excavating a junk pile near home that dates back to a period from roughly 1900-1940, and in this pile, we found a "Lucky Coin" that was commissioned by an old Tire store back around 1932 that had the store's logo and year on the front, and the back had a large swastika dividing the coin into four parts, one section having a horse shoe in it, another a 4-leaf clover, the third a #7, and the last some other lucky symbol.
This would, of course, indicate that even in the US prior to WW II, the Swastika was considered a good luck charm.
If a comet, on approach to the sun, passes the earth so that the tail streams directly behind it, it looks like a giant plus sign. If the comet rotates, it will look like a swastika, particularly the one in Guangxi's post. He even had pictures of such comets in his book on comets (called Comets) to back that up. Wheter or not its true is open to debate.
A bit closer to home, though, my brother and I were excavating a junk pile near home that dates back to a period from roughly 1900-1940, and in this pile, we found a "Lucky Coin" that was commissioned by an old Tire store back around 1932 that had the store's logo and year on the front, and the back had a large swastika dividing the coin into four parts, one section having a horse shoe in it, another a 4-leaf clover, the third a #7, and the last some other lucky symbol.
This would, of course, indicate that even in the US prior to WW II, the Swastika was considered a good luck charm.
scipian
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Obviously I was referring to Westerners. As most Americans will never/hardly encounter those you mentioned, it is reasonable to assume that a swastika seen is Nazi in origin.
indeed, there are lots of different flavours of bigoted idiots out there
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