The Thread Where We Discuss Guns and Gun Control

[rah]

Responsible parents can still buy guns for young hungers there so proper supervision can be maintained. I see no harm to hunters. And I hope high school students are still younger than 21 where you are.

 

[Farm Boy]

Are we upping the age of adulthood and burying it behind a held-back joke? Nope, still 0% respect.

 

[rah]

Not all kids graduate HS by 18 so 18 isn't good enough of a restriction. If you want to argue 19, I have no problem with that.

 

[Farm Boy]

So you're changing the definition of adult. Fine with me, I don't think they're ready to vote either.

 

[rah]

Not as much changing the definition of an adult (which is another discussion) more so just wanting to avoid High School students easy access to guns. If an adult wants to teach their child about hunting then they should be the ones acquiring the weapon so that it is more likely that the proper respect is passed on. I don't want some angry student to be able to have it easy to wander over to a store to pick up something to take out his anger with. But will agree that sometimes age is kind of arbitrary. But I still remember how mean/juvenile some of the bullies were in HS.

 

[MaryKB]

I've never hunted before, and I admit I'm not extremely knowledgeable about guns, but I'm still pretty sure you don't go hunting with an AK-47?

 

[rah]

Not very sporting anyway.

 

[Farm Boy]

We aren't talking about AK-47s at Dickheads' Sporting Goods store. Nor are we talking about high school students as a subset. That's all misleading soundbite. We are talking about every firearm and everyone under 21. Their prerogative, true. But don't call it something it isn't. I bought a long gun at 18. It's not an AK-47, or an AR-15, or anything the soundbites love. Used it a lot more then too, had more time and friends available for sport and hobby.

 

[Sommerswerd]

I could be wrong, but I don't think you can buy the AK-47 legally, at least not in the US, unless its like some really old collectors item model. The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting anyway.

 

[Farm Boy]

Richardhead's, theoretically, is about sport. But w/e.

 

[rah]

In all fairness, I wasn't talking about hunters or AK 47s when I responded to you dick's comment. I was talking about HS students and was not attempting to introduce a soundbite. I thought you bringing up that we need more hunters was the attempt to introduce a soundbite. We can agree to disagree on that.

 

[Farm Boy]

Well, a sporting and hunting store has stopped selling sporting and hunting firearms to 20 year olds, but hopefully, where I'm at, they git em through HS before that... so... w/e man.

 

[rah]

I would have been happy with 19. 99.9% are done by then. But it seems 18 and 21 are somehow the only choices for whatever reasons.

 

[Farm Boy]

The reasons are the stupid soundbites.

 

[rah]

I don't follow that. It's just an arbitrary limit. I knew quite a few older that shouldn't be allowed to drive, let alone own a firearm and many under even 16 that much more responsible. I just prefer not to make it easy for high school students. Yes, my arbitrary limit, since they're all crowded into the same building together.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

So because a certain right may no longer be "popular" that justifies either taking that right away or severely curtailing that right?

I mean... yes?

Meh... I'd say that my "reading comprehension" has been checked, tested, certified, etc., by several learned institutions and government entities... so I'm all good, thanks.

Well he didn't say the Coal Wars were recent, yet you seemed to be saying he did, so...

 

[Farm Boy]

since they're all crowded into the same building together.

We seem to expend a non-negligible amount of social energy attempting to make this default universal. So much easier to control and manage.

 

[rah]

While the utility of this is debatable, the potential for disaster is increased, especially when idiots are involved.

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

The major difference between USA and other countries is not necessarily the amount of guns available or even the type of weapons but the lack of needing weapon licenses to purchase weapons in USA. In most countries as far as I know you need some sort of licence in order to purchase and own weapons with some sort of control every few years or so in order to see if the person is eligible to maintain the licence such as a holder need to go to the shooting range a certain number of times each year or so and maybe also score above a certain minimum.

In USA I have heard that in certain if not most state you simply need to pass the background checks and fulfil the age requirement (and have enough money) to purchase a gun which seems really low requirements in order to purchase something as dangerous as a gun, I have heard that some states ban alot of potential dangerous stuff but is unable to make it really harder to purchase firearms because of the second amendment making firearms special snowflaks amongst dangerous stuff.

 

[rah]

The worst part is that even those minimalistic laws are not strictly enforced so there are really not any restrictions for anybody with half a brain and some money.