The Ugly Truth About Scientology.

Was anyone here ever under the impression that Scientology was in any way a valid spiritual movement?
 
I still am. Its morality and actions may be suspicious, but it is still a valid spiritual movement.
 
Azash said:
I still am. Its morality and actions may be suspicious, but it is still a valid spiritual movement.

No, its not Valid. L. Ron Hubbard is known to have started this thing in order to make money. It has been documented on several occasions. It has nothing to do with spirituality. He didn't even believe that B.S. he was making up in the beginning.

Mohammed and Jesus were actually very convicted in their beliefs.
 
As I stated earlier, his followers made it into a valid belief by following his ideals, fake though they were.
 
VoidEvils said:
Lisa McPherson is by far and away the best documented case, and seems to indicate carelessness by the Church. According to the original coroner's reports, she died of dehydration and was covered in roach bites. According the coroners employed by the Church, she died of a blood clot in her left lung that she suffered during the car accident. In either event, she showed signs of physical abuse, and was dead well before she entered the hospital. In the case that the state coroner is right, the Church maliciously and cruelly murdered a member of the Church who had at this point become of no use (she was broke by then). If the Church's coroners are right, she was the victim of negligent homicide at the absolute least (usually this would still be a murder, since the Church actively sought to deny her needed medical assistance), which is still a very serious matter, and she was then dead for atleast 16 days, and was clearly neglected by the Church, noting, once again, that her corpse was covered in roach bites.

I'm not familiar with the Lisa McPherson case, and frankly you've said nothing here that would necessarily make the Church or members of it guilty of murder. Could you clarify, or am I missing something?
 
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