The Ugly Truth About Scientology.

[JerichoHill]

All hail Dark Lord Xenu!

 

[.Shane.]

It was created by a science fiction writer named Robert A. Heinlein.

Um... L. Ron Hubbard.

 

[Taliesin]

Heinlein's religion (which was only inspired by him, not actually initiated) is the Church of All Worlds. It is considerably more benign than scientology, if only marginally less odd.

 

[Atlas14]

It's a pyramid scheme thought up by a science fiction writer while he was on drugs.

No, seriously, that's a fairly accurate assessment of it. It was created by a science fiction writer named Robert A. Heinlein. (According to some accounts, he was actually using a lot of drugs while drafting some of his original scripts; pills mostly) It's basic premise is that the problems people have are caused by things called "Thetans". You see, according to Scientology, several million years ago a Galactic Confederacy existed, and it was headed by a being called Xenu, or Xemu. He was deposed, so he decided to kill off some of the excess population of the planets, (Ther ebeing 76 planets in the confederacy, each with an average of 178 billion people on it) and so he captured billions of people under the guise of "income tax inspections" with the help of chemicals and psychiatrists, and transported them to a primeval Earth using copies of the DC-8 plane, only a spaceplane. He then stacked the bodies around a giant volcano and blow them up with hydrogen bombs. The souls of these people are the "Thetans" that cause trouble for us today. Knowledge of this, and other things, can be gained by buying your way to the top in the Scientologist hierarchy; your money supporting the people already there. This is why it is similar to a pyramid scheme.

Oh yes - and after they were killed by the hydrogen bombs, their souls were collected by an "electric ribbon" and taken into a giant movie theater, where they were brainwashed into believing in God, the devil, and other things.

I wish I was making that up, but I'm not. To me, it sounds like a simply awful science fiction story written by someone who had a bet with a friend that he could write the lamest science fiction story ever, and people would like it. Apparently it worked. Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large groups. Wikipedia has a fairly good page on it.

Wow, I can't believe people actually buy into that. Not only is it obviously fiction but it doesn't even seem enjoyable to be a part of. Tom Cruise is a ******.

 

[Wolfe Tone]

A cult is just what the big congregation calls the little congregation. But I have to agree that Scientology makes even less sense than a lot of the other religions

 

[RameNoodle]

Wow. Now look at what Suri is going to have to live to.
This is absolutely disgusting. I can't believe that some people would be so ignorant to buy into this kind of garbage. Its so disturbing the lengths these people go to to preserve "religion". What kind of person would leave a woman to die of starvation and dehydration, all for her seeing a psychiatrist, not under her own will? Disgusting.

 

[Elrohir]

Elrohir: You are right, except it was L. Ron Hubbard, not Robert Heinlen.

Yeah, you're right, my bad. I'll fix it.

Wow, I can't believe people actually buy into that. Not only is it obviously fiction but it doesn't even seem enjoyable to be a part of. Tom Cruise is a ******.

It's mind-boggling, isn't it? I think a lot of the stuff people believe is pretty kooky, but I think Scientology get's my "Most Unbelievable Belief System" award.

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

I wonder if CfC has any scientologists?

 

[Narz]

man, that music is cool!

and scientologists are a bit scary. my friend worked in a office complex near a "church" office.

 

[Panzeh]

Scientology is full of scummy types, and they dance between being a church and a company, so they can both avoid taxes and then protect their copyright, silencing criticism through lawsuits.

 

[GenMarshall]

I wonder if CfC has any scientologists?

Perfection almost fooled me into believing that he was a scientologist .

I see the scientology as a dangerous cult. Mainly due because of their practaces of excommunication and defellowshiping apostates as well as being openly hostile to them.

 

[VoidEvils]

I was not trolling. My intent here was not to illicit any angry responses. I do admit that I may have been abrasive, but I feel quite strongly about this subject. My intent is as I stated it - dessiminate as much knowledge as possible about the shadier side of Scientology. Note that I do not have anything against holding weird beliefs. Believing Scientology, as messed up as it is, is not a crime at all. However, from all accounts, you can only be a Scientologist by joining the Church of Scientology - which costs many thousands of dollars.

My opposition is to the actions of the Church of Scientology. The easiest and probably most effective way to hurt them is to bring to light the dangerous and criminal side of the Church. Many are well aware that Scientology is a basketcase cult mixed with a corrupt pyramid scheme, but there are clearly much worse things involved. The more people are informed about the Church, the less people are willing to pay for it, and the less they are going to recieve.

I know I could have spread the information in a more complete format by using whytheyaredead.net or factnet.org, but this has immediacy, condensation, and clarity. It's very to the point, and I'm not trying to inform people who already have the deal and want to know what is going on in depth. I want to reach the potential victims of the Church of Scientology, who are totally unaware of what is going on and may yet be trapped.

Two closing comments in reaction to things in this thread:
1)If Scientology is a legitimate religion, or even philosophy(which it was before Hubbard decided he wanted a tax exempt status), it will survive without the Church and its deep pockets.
2)I don't even have a YTMND account, so I can't even vote, let alone create a YTMND and then whore it for votes. I do browse the site, and that is how I came across this. Worth saying that I felt like a bit of a spamming jerk, and then I realized that I had made one post in an Off Topic forum. Look at the EBaum's world forums if you want to see serious spamming of this.

 

[Truronian]

Wow, I can't believe people actually buy into that. Not only is it obviously fiction but it doesn't even seem enjoyable to be a part of. Tom Cruise is a ******.

I'm of the opinion that hes just a pretty immoral guy. I imagine celebrities have a lot to gain from pyramid schemes, and when you have as much money as Cruise all the various perks high level scientology gives you may seem worth it (he has access to a private yacht, for example). If he truly was a complete wacko, I doubt that he'd have gone against Scientology teachings during the whole Katie Holmes birth thing.

 

[Azash]

This isn't "the ugly truth", this is an exaggeration of an opinion, presented as fact.

 

[The Last Conformist]

I'm of the opinion that hes just a pretty immoral guy. I imagine celebrities have a lot to gain from pyramid schemes, and when you have as much money as Cruise all the various perks high level scientology gives you may seem worth it (he has access to a private yacht, for example). If he truly was a complete wacko, I doubt that he'd have gone against Scientology teachings during the whole Katie Holmes birth thing.

Scientology offers extra perks to celebrity members, including laxer discipline, on the logic they're good advertising.

 

[silver 2039]

Scientology is just as reasonable and realistic as other religons. This thread should be closed. People aren't allowed to bash Chrstianity like this so why should they be allowed to bash Scientology like this?

 

[Erik Mesoy]

Scientology is just as reasonable and realistic as other religons.

This is false.
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[Narz]

Scientology is just as reasonable and realistic as other religons. This thread should be closed. People aren't allowed to bash Chrstianity like this so why should they be allowed to bash Scientology like this?

Yeah, after all Christians have tortured and killed way more people than Scientologists have. "The Earth revolves around the sun?!?! Burn him! "

 

[silver 2039]

This is false.
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In your opnion. I find the concept of this Galatic Confederacy and alien race and Xenu just as likley as some guy who was born to a virgin killed and then came back to life. Equally believable to me....or unbeliavable. Oh and this thread has been reported for religous bashing.

 

[Ramius75]

Scientology is just as reasonable and realistic as other religons. This thread should be closed. People aren't allowed to bash Chrstianity like this so why should they be allowed to bash Scientology like this?

becoz scientlogy is universally hail as a cult ??

Im very against religion and more against cults which is a spin of a religion. This scientology is a mockery of the human society at best. A good example of how gullible can 1 human being and even more so when put into a group.