There is another big website goned

[aimeeandbeatles]

I was just browsing around the internet when this caught my eye
http://torrentfreak.com/demonoid-busted-as-a-gift-to-the-united-states-government-120806/

I dont really understand a lot of it really other than the site is goned. But after MegaUpload was goned last year and now this site is. Wow are a lot of sites being goned because of the copyright thing. Im also surprised nobodys posted about it yet unless I missed it.

Please discuss and make a lot of angry words. I dont have too much to say right now though I might come back later.

 

[History_Buff]

Demonoid will be back within months probably. Since it doesn't actually host content (and they presumably have off-site backups of the site), it's super easy to throw it back up.

 

[kramerfan86]

At the end of the day targeting websites makes a lot more sense than targeting individuals which is likely why that has become the government focus.

 

[Save_Ferris]

They're cracking down on sites for illegal activity? Next thing you know, they'll be closing down meth labs!

 

[ParkCungHee]

At the end of the day targeting websites makes a lot more sense than targeting individuals which is likely why that has become the government focus.

"A lot more sense" does not amount to "sense."

 

[Verarde]

They're cracking down on sites for illegal activity? Next thing you know, they'll be closing down meth labs!

Film at 11.

 

[Mr. Dictator]

Illegal, yes, but I hate the RIAA and MPAA so this saddens me.

 

[IdiotsOpposite]

I'd be a lot more in favor if the RIAA and MPAA weren't such total a-holes.

 

[Zelig]

I'm not too upset about this.

Countries allowing for unpoliced servers are generally a bad thing, allowing for spam and other actual crimes.

The source of the problem are unreasonable copyright laws, and excess lobbying power, both from the RIAA/MPAA with the US government, and from the US government to other countries.

The solution is to fix copyright laws, not to run servers in countries that don't respect them.

 

[IdiotsOpposite]

The solution is to fix copyright laws, not to run servers in countries that don't respect them.

And the problem with that solution is that it's nearly impossible to get the populace to the level of motivation needed to break super-powerful lobbies like the MPAA and the RIAA.

 

[Zelig]

And the problem with that solution is that it's nearly impossible to get the populace to the level of motivation needed to break super-powerful lobbies like the MPAA and the RIAA.

Well that's your problem in the US, the solution is relatively easier everywhere else; just tell US lobbyists to stuff it.

 

[IdiotsOpposite]

Well that's your problem in the US, the solution is relatively easier everywhere else; just tell US lobbyists to stuff it.

I like your solution. I wish we could implement it here.

 

[wilycoyote]

Well that's your problem in the US, the solution is relatively easier everywhere else; just tell US lobbyists to stuff it.

Except that Canada and just about everyone else has to live with whatever America does too. You can't ignore it anymore than we can.

 

[Zelig]

Except that Canada and just about everyone else has to live with whatever America does too. You can't ignore it anymore than we can.

Why not?

If the rest of the world unilaterally started following reasonable copyright laws (like 20 year limits across the board), the US is free to enforce indefinite lengths of copyright for its own citizens.

 

[wilycoyote]

Can you use the sites that the US gets taken down?

 

[Zelig]

Can you use the sites that the US gets taken down?

Sites wouldn't get taken down. They wouldn't be hosted in the US, and wouldn't be subject to unreasonable US laws.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Megaupload was a filehosting service. Shutting it down made piracy harder, but a fight against torrent sites can't be won.
One site is gone, the torrents still exist.

 

[wilycoyote]

But that isn't how it works. Sites get taken down, as this thread proves, that aren't in the US because the US is the only world superpower and other countries give in to its political pressure.

 

[Zelig]

Megaupload was a filehosting service. Shutting it down made piracy harder, but a fight against torrent sites can't be won.

Sure it can, torrent traffic is essentially impossible to effectively mask, so it's fairly straightforward for ISPs to implement deep packet inspection, crippling your torrent speed to 1-2 kb/s.

The reason this doesn't happen is because the legal/regulatory situation isn't conductive to it - I'm in favor of improving the legal/regulatory situation in order to address current issues, rather than skirting laws with technical workarounds.

But that isn't how it works. Sites get taken down, as this thread proves, that aren't in the US because the US is the only world superpower and other countries give in to its political pressure.

I'm not really sure what your point is? I said that the solution to sites getting taken down is to tell the US to stuff it, and you're saying that telling the US to stuff it doesn't work because sites get taken down?

 

[History_Buff]

Sure it can, torrent traffic is essentially impossible to effectively mask, so it's fairly straightforward for ISPs to implement deep packet inspection, crippling your torrent speed to 1-2 kb/s.

Is that not akin to "gun crimes exist, so ban all guns?"