they have found atlantis!

[silver 2039]

@Xenocrates yes those lines are in the Mahbartha, they eerily are similar to the effects of a nuclear explosion. Also there are flying chariots mentioned in Ramayana that resemble aeroplanes.

 

[Reno]

The guy from Finland who said it was there .....I won't even quote it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ior_Bock wow ...just wow

No-one here in Finland take him seriously, he is considered a lunatic at best.

 

[EdwardTking]

There was probably was more than one "civilization" that was flooded and submerged. The most likely source of these legends came from the end of the Ice Age, with the rising of sea levels. However, there were plenty of other climate disasters to give rise to the myth, located throughout history; as recently as the 15th Century or so. The pervasiveness of the myth indicates strongly that there was not just one civilization that submerged, but many, thus, there are probably quite a few sites that can be called Atlantises.

Quite so.

It is generally recognised that Robin Hood arose from the combination of three separate myths.

And I think that Atlantis likely arose from a combination of perhaps:

(a) Thera
(b) Crete
(c) Tartessos

 

[Antilogic]

Not only the end of the Ice Age, but the Mediterranean is ridden with earthquakes and has several active volcanoes that have been shown to have erupted within the last couple thousand years. A disaster like that could have obliterated an advanced island city.

Although, by advanced, I'm talking about a civilization that figured out bronze and iron, maybe other metals, before their neighbors, and had pretty pottery. Not space-age flying cars stuff.

 

[carmen510]

Atlantis has been proposed to be everywhere. East African coast, Mediterranean, Near Ireland, West of California, etc.

Atlantis is probably a Greek city. As it's a myth or not, . It could 'exist', only with the technology. Two continents have been proposed to hold Atlantis, but it's preposterous even if they existed. One is between the Americas and Europe/Africa, the other south of the Indian Ocean.

 

[Antilogic]

"Greek" is soo misleading, especially since "Greece proper" doesn't exist when Atlantis supposedly does. When I refer to Greece proper, I'm referring to the classical age of Greece. However, most legends of Atlantis refer to times before the Dorians swept into the Greek lands--the times of the Achaeans/Mycenaeans (whatever you want to call them) and the Minoans.

The "continent" idea is simply absurd, if you ask me. I'm convinced its a myth that has been revised over the centuries to grow into something it wasn't originally.

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

What i want to know is that is there any stories of the Atlantis in writings before Plato's dialogues?

I believe Plato heard it from his grandfather, who in turn heard it from Solon, who heard it from the Egyptians.

UPDATE: I watched the show again today, it was mistranslated. The number 9000 was correct, but it was 9000 Lunar Months, as opposed to 9000 Solar Years. Thus, it would be very close to the time of the eruption that kind shut down the Minoans for good.

I suspect they will find Atlantis around the Antarktis coast pretty soon.

They've already said the Antarctica was Atlantis. Or rather Atlantis is now Antarctica.

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

Quite so.

It is generally recognised that Robin Hood arose from the combination of three separate myths.

And I think that Atlantis likely arose from a combination of perhaps:

(a) Thera
(b) Crete
(c) Tartessos

Quite possible. Tertessos: definitely. Thera: definitely. Crete: not so sure. Could find better place. Which, in turn, is the problem to begin with, isn't it?

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I believe Plato heard it from his grandfather, who in turn heard it from the Egyptians. There is also a discrepency in the date, something about how it was interpreted wrong, and it should have been 900 BC instead of 9000 BC.

That error would only make sense if they were using the AD/BC system, which they of course weren't back then.

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

That error would only make sense if they were using the AD/BC system, which they of course weren't back then.

Years are years regardless of what system is in place to record them. Thus, it happened 900 years before Solon (I believe he was an Athenian aristocrat or something). And I don't know exactly how long after Solon heard it, that Plato heard it. But Plato heard of it as a child from overhearing his grandfather speak about it.

What I had meant to say was: it had happened 900+ years previous to Plato. Thinking this way, that other way came out. Sorry for the confusion.

Knowledge of the distant past apparently forgotten to the Athenians of Plato's day, the story of Atlantis was conveyed to Solon by Egyptian priests. Solon passed the tale to Dropides, the great-grandfather of Critias. Critias learned of it from his grandfather also named Critias, son of Dropides.

http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/Atlantis/timaeus_and_critias.html

Something along the lines of the above quote were mentioned in the episode, describing how the information was passed along.

 

[jeff744]

Atlantis will never be found simply because by now it would be unrecognizable, it's sitting in a place that we have ony explored a frcation of, if we do find anything that could be it the site will most likely be nothing more than a pile of rubble

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

Atlantis will never be found simply because by now it would be unrecognizable, it's sitting in a place that we have ony explored a frcation of, if we do find anything that could be it the site will most likely be nothing more than a pile of rubble

They found Troy didn't they? It was a pile of rubble, but archaeologists don't measure the greatness of their finds by the intactness (if that's a word) of the ancient city they've found. They measure it by the principle of finding anything that remains of a once great city.

 

[jeff744]

how will you know that you found Atlanti though?, archeologists had a pretty good idea as to where Troy was, and it was easier to identify that it was troy because of the cultures. no one can agree where Atlantis was, if it existed, if it had it's own culture, or was influenced. We may find it, but if we do how will we know that we did?

 

[Xanikk999]

i just heard a commercial for "digging for the truth" where they found atlantis does anybody out there believe they have found it?

Dont beileve everything you see on TV. Especially not commercials.

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

Dont beileve everything you see on TV. Especially not commercials.

The History Channel tends to be pretty trustworthy.

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

how will you know that you found Atlanti though?, archeologists had a pretty good idea as to where Troy was, and it was easier to identify that it was troy because of the cultures. no one can agree where Atlantis was, if it existed, if it had it's own culture, or was influenced. We may find it, but if we do how will we know that we did?

There isn't just one story that could pertain to Atlantis. Obviously there's Plato's version, but there's also the Epic of Gilgamesh, and Noah's Ark, etc. They all describe a great flood, which Atlantis was partly destroyed by (in concert with an earthquake).

Scroll down to the Mythological connections on this link (Mythological, but still, so many references, they must all be somewhat based on fact):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah

 

[Xanikk999]

The History Channel tends to be pretty trustworthy.

Not when they talk about a folkstory called "atlantis" being real. Unless of course its completely different then what it was desribed is by whoever made it up, but then whats the point?

A huge continent never existed in the atlantic, nada, never, get over it.

 

[jeff744]

there are a million myths out there, Atlantis ha only survived becuase it is fascinating, for all that is actually know it could have been a small island in the Med that was lost and presumed to have flooded. Maybe the island had a earthquake and was lost. Atlantis might not have ever existed also, it could all be a myth, along with millions of other tales. I need some proof abou7t Atlantis first, maybe a stone sign underwater, or a carving or something. Heck if one of the myths i've heard is true about them having electricity, maybe a lightbulb.

 

[Xanikk999]

there are a million myths out there, Atlantis ha only survived becuase it is fascinating, for all that is actually know it could have been a small island in the Med that was lost and presumed to have flooded. Maybe the island had a earthquake and was lost. Atlantis might not have ever existed also, it could all be a myth, along with millions of other tales. I need some proof abou7t Atlantis first, maybe a stone sign underwater, or a carving or something. Heck if one of the myths i've heard is true about them having electricity, maybe a lightbulb.

Man.. if you even consider this to have ever existed then you really did not think this through.

There are no artifacts left by atlantis. All we have is some fanciful tale told by plato and later historians. There is just no way it could have ever existed without leaving any trace of it.

And considering Plato pulled it from his arse, theres no reason to even consider looking for any artifacts.

 

[jeff744]

when did i say that i believed it?