Time to get rid of the Monarchy?

[AmazonQueen]

I think you are right, but when we are talking about someone who was in charge of the military who have been engaged in causing painful deaths on many many people to complain about words seems a bit hypocritical.

Yep, but theres a lot of overreacting going on.
Kevin Bridges is being attacked for a joke he made
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertain...pc=U531&cvid=bbfa124dc01146ea86c9360039131863
Arguably poor taste but hardly treason.

 

[Samson]

Yep, but theres a lot of overreacting going on.
Kevin Bridges is being attacked for a joke he made
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertain...pc=U531&cvid=bbfa124dc01146ea86c9360039131863
Arguably poor taste but hardly treason.

Joke =

She's not going to be the only old woman to die this winter.​

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Seems eminently appropriate to me.

 

[EnglishEdward]

As 8 September 2022 is hardly winter, I'd say he got the joke all wrong.

 

[Kyriakos]

I don't get the "disgust" due to the joke. Is it too much to remind people that others will die too, and in their case not after a life lived in castles? Nor strictly due to natural causes

 

[Henri Christophe]

I voted for yes, it's time to overdue the British monarchy. It is ultrapassed and useless.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Joke =

She's not going to be the only old woman to die this winter.​

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Seems eminently appropriate to me.

By the standards of modern comedy its quite mild. Its just interesting to find that the people who will defend any racist, misogynist remark with its just a joke have their own form of pc, things you can't joke about.

 

[Verbose]

By the standards of modern comedy its quite mild. Its just interesting to find that the people who will defend any racist, misogynist remark with its just a joke have their own form of pc, things you can't joke about.

People of a certain class might not have much in the way of morals – but they still have standards...

 

[Arakhor]

I can tell you this much, if I ever get a dukedom I’m changing my name to Newcomb.

And they'll never mention your surname, because hereditary peerages are almost always connected with places rather than surnames (the Earl Spencer being one of the very few exceptions).

 

[amadeus]

I thought you were only supposed to spoil fun in your official capacity.

 

[Arakhor]

It was a relatively good pun too!

 

[Absolution]

Because it restricts freedom and is consequently life-denying. I oppose it on the same grounds and for the same reason that I oppose slavery, racism and patriarchy. But that is not something I would expect a proud and unrepentant colonizer to understand, so it is little surprise that you are confused.

This is the exact difference -
You are not forced for hard labour, your movement and other rights are not restricted compared to whay you'd have in a republican alternative.
You are not racially segregated, and actually not at all segregated based on any characteristic or yours.
And you are not bent down to fulfil the wishes of your patron or lord.

So why choosing these comparisons?
It seems like you resent the essense of the high position of the dominant side, and not necessarily the suffering that it causes to the oppressed side.

Republics can very well be troublsome in all of those fields. Republics can take your civil rights, enslave you, and racially segregate you. The UK of our times is a good example of a monarchy (well..) that is almost flawless in these regards.

In a metaphore to another field of political division - you would like to limit the rich regardless of wether it helps the poor or anybody else.

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Allow me to partially ignore that last stupid comment you added down there, and just remind you that my initial post stated that I have nothing for the monarchy at all.
I just think that some people have, thus royalty can be a good thing for a country like the UK to have. In a nation-wide view.

 

[amadeus]

I’ve lived in both, can’t say I felt more free under one than another.

 

[r16]

while passing by ı notice this ardent dislike or whatever . So , instead of blaming the grandad of the current King because wars inevitably reach a balance point and casualties become far higher in relation to what they get in reward and the guy might have been saving his "property" , them Greek troops by not letting them die in the required amounts ... If one wants treason , how about one of digging explosives into own trenches so that when the Stoßtruppen arrived , even if the history records only one single mercenary in Kemal's Army and he was indeed German , the Greek units would conduct a withdrawal after setting off the timers and it would be a massacre and Kemal just waited until the Greeks indeed left their positions and all the stored explosives made a good show of pyrotechics .


uh , the answer is still Germanic and involves military supplies the Leninists failed to deliver . Yeah , 100th anniversary of Greeks leaving Izmir .

 

[AspiringScholar]

I, as an American, found it interesting to see our flag flown half-mast in honor of the death of a monarch whose crown's suzerainty spawned it in the first place.

 

[Kyriakos]

Any chance that HM Charles III will at least come close to trying to force changes in any government's legislating? (due to personal strongly held views about the outcome etc)

 

[AmazonQueen]

Any chance that HM Charles III will at least come close to trying to force changes in any government's legislating? (due to personal strongly held views about the outcome etc)

No, to quote him from his address to the nation,
"My life will of course change as I take up my new responsibilities. It will no longer be possible for me to give so much of my time and energies to the charities and issues for which I care so deeply. But I know this important work will go on in the trusted hands of others."

 

[Kyriakos]

No, to quote him from his address to the nation,
"My life will of course change as I take up my new responsibilities. It will no longer be possible for me to give so much of my time and energies to the charities and issues for which I care so deeply. But I know this important work will go on in the trusted hands of others."

This would be boring, so I hope he dissolves parliament

 

[EnglishEdward]

Any chance that HM Charles III will at least come close to trying to force changes in any government's legislating? (due to personal strongly held views about the outcome etc)

It is an unknown future.

One thing I will say is that if Liz Truss resigns, I doubt he will tolerate being without a PM for six weeks
while the conservative party do the short listing, and postal voting, palaver, for the 4th time in ten years.

I admired QEII, but suspect that towards the end her tiredness meant the politicos got with more sloppyiness.

 

[EvaDK]

Be careful not to place Elizabeth II on too high a piedestal; you will only increase the likelihood of failure of her successors on the throne in comparison.

 

[EnglishEdward]

i doubt that Charlieboy reads this forum.