I agree. Though liberating puppets is so useful in game so it's understandable as a game mechanism to discourage players from releasing too many puppets.
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I agree. Though liberating puppets is so useful in game so it's understandable as a game mechanism to discourage players from releasing too many puppets.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
I'd liek ot know why the dissent ratings in provinces seem random. After defeating the USSR (as Germany) and getting the bitter peace event I swept through Perisa and into Egypt. I annexed persia and had at most one region with a 2% partisan risk, where as I ended up liberating Israel and Jordan because soem of those reginos had up to 30%! There was only one British unit that I pused all the way back to Egypt.
It varies by regions, and sometimes usually it doesn't make sense. Africa, Central Asia (incl. Afghanistan and anything such of Kazakhstan) India, South-East Asia and the Pacific Islands have zero dissent when captured (makes no sense whatsoever, but it does mean playing Japan you don't have to worry about TC that much). Europe and the rest of Asia have higher dissent levels that varies by region to region (the Balkans has much higher dissent than, say, Germany) and it's also sometimes affected by events (Vichy event gives northern France to Germany with very small dissent levels). Playing authoritarian nations, Persia has around 2% partisan levels, Iraq and Syria around 10%, Palestine around 30%, while Egypt IIRC has 0%. I don't know if you can edit the base partisan levels or not.
I constantly alt tab and it works fine. Usually its best not to alt-tab on the loading screens as it can cause the graphics to go slightly weird.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Gah, i was going to nuke the freaking 78 British + allied divisions hoeld up in Gibralter but I don't have any bombers that can carry nukes for a few more months >_< (I don't really use the airforces, takes too long and costs too much to build when they get destroyed easily).
I am alt-tabbing right now, it works surprisingly well
I don't remember if it auto-pauses or not if you alt tab, but I would NOT risk it, especially since I have it on Extremely Fast 
EDIT: Well nuking those troops was very fulfilling revenge wise, except I didn't end up nuknig Gibralter, it was Seville
Still, London is going to get a a very big explosive surprise present on Christmas Morning at 7 AM. And National Spain is not the least bit pissed off I nuked Seville since it was in British control at the time
I also recommend NOT nunking a region you have 93 diviions surrounding, most of my units took casaulties but it was nothing I couldn't handle (once my carrier and three Improved Super Battleshisp finished).
The UK now has 25 divisions, and 5 tanks, some unkown airforce number I havn't checked, and well over 100 naval ships plus a dozen battleships and a dozen carriers. I have about a third of that, mostly otudated (now, it's 1945 and I've caught up in naval tech again). I have a fleet of 30 ships with 7 carriers and several battleships, light and heavy crusiers (and one destroyer for cannon fodder). Antoher one in the Mediterrainian of now-outdated ships (including two Great War heavy Crusiers that have now sunk over a dozen random destroyers and transports they came across). In my build que I have 20 Semi-Modern heavy Cruisers, 10 Improved Super Battleships and 10 Semi-Modern Carriers. Mostly I just want to defeat the British navy around Britain long enough to land my transports/armies (I've had half my army lined up along the shore in Germany, Poland and the Baltics for 2 years now), at least.
EDIT: I have 2 fleets of 12 transports currently, which I will build some other ships to guard them when I can, I was thinknig maybe light/heavy crusiers as they will need to be quick to build).
EDIT: Or not, on a lark I invaded the region north of London, and within 2 months had almost the entire island. It was easy, except a few troops, 22 (mostly US) divisions hid south of London and let me surround them and then surrendered easily. Had to take the Hebrides with all 70 divisions I had landed though, some Australian and Canadian forces were holed up there, 18 divisions. I lost a single ship to planes and destroyed over a dozen of theirs (a carrier, a couple of battleships, a few crusiers and lots of destroyers).
It was a little too easy, but the National Socialist (cough puppet cough) nations of Scotland, Wales and North Ireland are now free from the English oppressors. Also I nuked london, albeit I got impatient and nuked them in September 1945 (invaded in October 1946). Next, to nuke New York and Washington while I invade Canada. Sometime in 1947.
I am alt-tabbing right now, it works surprisingly well
I don't remember if it auto-pauses or not if you alt tab, but I would NOT risk it, especially since I have it on Extremely Fast EDIT: Well nuking those troops was very fulfilling revenge wise, except I didn't end up nuknig Gibralter, it was Seville
Still, London is going to get a a very big explosive surprise present on Christmas Morning at 7 AM. And National Spain is not the least bit pissed off I nuked Seville since it was in British control at the time
I also recommend NOT nunking a region you have 93 diviions surrounding, most of my units took casaulties but it was nothing I couldn't handle (once my carrier and three Improved Super Battleshisp finished).
The UK now has 25 divisions, and 5 tanks, some unkown airforce number I havn't checked, and well over 100 naval ships plus a dozen battleships and a dozen carriers. I have about a third of that, mostly otudated (now, it's 1945 and I've caught up in naval tech again). I have a fleet of 30 ships with 7 carriers and several battleships, light and heavy crusiers (and one destroyer for cannon fodder). Antoher one in the Mediterrainian of now-outdated ships (including two Great War heavy Crusiers that have now sunk over a dozen random destroyers and transports they came across). In my build que I have 20 Semi-Modern heavy Cruisers, 10 Improved Super Battleships and 10 Semi-Modern Carriers. Mostly I just want to defeat the British navy around Britain long enough to land my transports/armies (I've had half my army lined up along the shore in Germany, Poland and the Baltics for 2 years now), at least.
EDIT: I have 2 fleets of 12 transports currently, which I will build some other ships to guard them when I can, I was thinknig maybe light/heavy crusiers as they will need to be quick to build).
EDIT: Or not, on a lark I invaded the region north of London, and within 2 months had almost the entire island. It was easy, except a few troops, 22 (mostly US) divisions hid south of London and let me surround them and then surrendered easily. Had to take the Hebrides with all 70 divisions I had landed though, some Australian and Canadian forces were holed up there, 18 divisions. I lost a single ship to planes and destroyed over a dozen of theirs (a carrier, a couple of battleships, a few crusiers and lots of destroyers).
It was a little too easy, but the National Socialist (cough puppet cough) nations of Scotland, Wales and North Ireland are now free from the English oppressors. Also I nuked london, albeit I got impatient and nuked them in September 1945 (invaded in October 1946). Next, to nuke New York and Washington while I invade Canada. Sometime in 1947.
ComradeDavo
Formerly God
The screenshots in my aar were provided using the power of the alt-tab.
Rheinmetall
Interplanetary Assassin
I could use some tips. I managed to stop the german advance, but the germans can outproduce me, so I'll be in trouble when the spring comes. My infantry on the frontlines is maybe 60% '41 and 40% '39 and I'm really light on armored divisions.
There was a 2 week battle over Bobraisk just before I took the screenshot and the fighting has not stopped yet. The germans suffered quite a lot of casualties there.
There was a 2 week battle over Bobraisk just before I took the screenshot and the fighting has not stopped yet. The germans suffered quite a lot of casualties there.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Are none of your units grouped? Groups of 3 are excellent afaik and cut down on clutter.
If I were you I'd get some troops especially armoured/mobile and flank the germans via the baltics (just DoW on theM).
If I were you I'd get some troops especially armoured/mobile and flank the germans via the baltics (just DoW on theM).
Rheinmetall
Interplanetary Assassin
Grouping? Do you mean putting several divisions under single commander or something else I'm not aware of?
Also how important are the HQ units and how they should be used. I curently have 4 upgraded to HQ '43.
Also how important are the HQ units and how they should be used. I curently have 4 upgraded to HQ '43.
HQ units increase the no of units a commander can handle effectively AFAIK. Anyway, vitally important if going on offensive with a lot of units.
Also the Baltic States seem to be unoccupied. Did you accept Ribbentrop-Molotov? If so you should be able to demand their surrender via "annex nation".
Also the Baltic States seem to be unoccupied. Did you accept Ribbentrop-Molotov? If so you should be able to demand their surrender via "annex nation".
Rheinmetall
Interplanetary Assassin
I did accept Ribbentrop-Molotov, but I didn't spot "annex nation" option in the diplomacy, Only demand territory, and that doesn't work. Also I didn't invade Finland because my army was not up to the task at the time of the "Winter war" event.
Yeah, I meant to say "demand territory" not annex nation. 
Usually you have 20% chance of getting the Baltic via demand territory after June (or May?) 1940, but I'm not sure whether the Winter War affects this or not. (I always DoW Finland when the event comes and use amphibious landings to capture all their key provinces to annex them. Usually they're very lightly defended )
Anyway, you might be able to flank the Germans attacking through the Baltic States. In any case extra IC is nice.
Usually you have 20% chance of getting the Baltic via demand territory after June (or May?) 1940, but I'm not sure whether the Winter War affects this or not. (I always DoW Finland when the event comes and use amphibious landings to capture all their key provinces to annex them. Usually they're very lightly defended
)Anyway, you might be able to flank the Germans attacking through the Baltic States. In any case extra IC is nice.
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
This is a good guide on the effectiveness of HQ's. They basically boost (double?) the amount of troops a general can command in all adjacent provinces. Especially vital for nations like the Soviet Union.
I normally have to 'demand territory' the Baltic states several times before they'll finally give in.
Rheinmetall
Interplanetary Assassin
I guess I'm screwed in that regard. I don't have the money for diplomatic actions, since I've spent most of it purging the spies and planting my own. (10 in both Japan and UK)
Anyway I reckon I'm already in the deep end. The German IC soon rivals the US, and I have to keep producing troops to match the germans instead of building my IC.
In HoI2 spying is generally not worth the investment (hopefully this will change in HoI3 though. 
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You could always DoW Estonia and Latvia for IC and then DoW Lithuania and try flank the Germans, although this would be difficult.
)You could always DoW Estonia and Latvia for IC and then DoW Lithuania and try flank the Germans, although this would be difficult.
Rheinmetall
Interplanetary Assassin
In HoI2 spying is generally not worth the investment (hopefully this will change in HoI3 though.
I've only got 2 blueprints from the spies, and it's cost me an arm and leg. Besides the blueprints I got were useless to me. Somehow the percentages for the spy mission success seem to be a little optimistic since infiltration even with >40% odds seem to fail 80% of the time. I don't even know how much difference does it make letting the enemy spies infiltrate. So I guess I'm not going to bother with more of that.
It would indeed be difficult. I'm barely holding the line as it is in the north. The south has been pretty quiet after I reached the fortified line behind the river.
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
I've been in a situation similar to that as the Soviet Union, and you're still doing better than the historical situation of 1942. Your southern front is protected by the river there, and you can pull back to the rivers in the north if it gets too bad up there.
You need to sort your dissent though, that affects battles in the enemy's favour. Pour some IC into the consumer goods slider, if you can. That'll bring it down.
You need to sort your dissent though, that affects battles in the enemy's favour. Pour some IC into the consumer goods slider, if you can. That'll bring it down.
Rheinmetall
Interplanetary Assassin
Thanks. I still have to grasp what makes what and how large a difference it'll have. I haven't dared to move troops from the south to north for a possible offensive since I'm not sure if I can hold the line.
Like PrinceScamp suggested I've deployed 10 brand new medium armor divisions to the north, and although I've yet to grasp the proper strategy for using them, they have certainly helped to push back the occasional german breakthrough.
Like PrinceScamp suggested I've deployed 10 brand new medium armor divisions to the north, and although I've yet to grasp the proper strategy for using them, they have certainly helped to push back the occasional german breakthrough.
Rheinmetall
Interplanetary Assassin
After about a month of constant fighting back and forth around Bobraisk the German troops (mostly their puppets) started to look really out of shape, and were often forced to fight disorganized and half strength. I finally decided to make my move, trying to encicrcle them in Bobraisk.
Armored divisions from Mozyr attacked Luniniec supported by the rest of the force there, The entire force from Minsk would capture Lida, and then advance straight to Baranowicze to complete the encirclement. The first phase went rather well, It took some 10 hours to dislodge the germans from Luniniec. Lida was harder and took almost two days of fighting to and I guess that's what cost me the capture of Baranowicze. Though majority of the enemy forces in there were disorganized, there were still some full strength divisions that halted my assault. My northern troops were already badly disorganized, so I decided to abandon the encirclement for now. I'm trying it again soon, hopefully with better luck. One of you would probably have pulled it off easily, but my approach to this is still too hamfisted.
Armored divisions from Mozyr attacked Luniniec supported by the rest of the force there, The entire force from Minsk would capture Lida, and then advance straight to Baranowicze to complete the encirclement. The first phase went rather well, It took some 10 hours to dislodge the germans from Luniniec. Lida was harder and took almost two days of fighting to and I guess that's what cost me the capture of Baranowicze. Though majority of the enemy forces in there were disorganized, there were still some full strength divisions that halted my assault. My northern troops were already badly disorganized, so I decided to abandon the encirclement for now. I'm trying it again soon, hopefully with better luck. One of you would probably have pulled it off easily, but my approach to this is still too hamfisted.
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