The Sansman
Warlord
Just for the record I agree with the Permanent Alliance.
TNT1 : Monarch, custom continents, PP or PW
- Thread starter Tatran
- Start date
Pre-turn
Both, Gandhi and Huayna Capac favor Mercantilism. One has the personality of Roosevelt
and the other of Tokugawa. Means one of them will never sign a permanent alliance.
Something else, we cannot use Great Merchants anymore to collect gold in Tokugawa's cities.
IBT 1881 AD
Hannibal is gone, so the conquest victory is an option now.
1882 AD (2)
Switch civics : Organized Religion + convert to Judaism
1890 AD (10)
We have a small problem near Paris.
1891 AD (11)
The Roman invaders are destroyed and a Great General has been born in Djenne.
Another problem has occured near Old Sarai.
Note : Tokugawa owns both shrines (Hinduism + Judaism)
I suggest to spread those religions to our cities.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/20970/TNT1_AD-1895.CivWarlordsSave
Both, Gandhi and Huayna Capac favor Mercantilism. One has the personality of Roosevelt
and the other of Tokugawa. Means one of them will never sign a permanent alliance.
Something else, we cannot use Great Merchants anymore to collect gold in Tokugawa's cities.
IBT 1881 AD
Hannibal is gone, so the conquest victory is an option now.
1882 AD (2)
Switch civics : Organized Religion + convert to Judaism
1890 AD (10)
We have a small problem near Paris.
1891 AD (11)
The Roman invaders are destroyed and a Great General has been born in Djenne.
Another problem has occured near Old Sarai.
Note : Tokugawa owns both shrines (Hinduism + Judaism)
I suggest to spread those religions to our cities.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/20970/TNT1_AD-1895.CivWarlordsSave
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Re: the landings: what happen to our those coastal defenders we have? They are suppose to prevent such landings. 1 defender is definitely no enough to curtail invasion since AI will typically send 2 frigates to protect their galleons.
Do we want to go conquest/domination or space? I suspect space is faster, we should be able to head towards Alpha Centuri by 1970. Conquest or domination would be take a little more time (but will be a little more fun
).
Do we want to go conquest/domination or space? I suspect space is faster, we should be able to head towards Alpha Centuri by 1970. Conquest or domination would be take a little more time (but will be a little more fun
).I've upgraded all our frigates to destroyers. All our fishnets are protected
and Timbuktu is building nonstop warships.
I think we should go for the action part and let Tokugawa build our
spaceship. Most allies in a permanent alliance are very passive.
Our military is superiour, we only lack the numbers. Why not use it?
and Timbuktu is building nonstop warships.
I think we should go for the action part and let Tokugawa build our
spaceship. Most allies in a permanent alliance are very passive.
Our military is superiour, we only lack the numbers. Why not use it?
The Sansman
Warlord
Ok, got and have played. I will post the report in ~13hrs.
negyvenketto
Scientist
I won't be able to play this weekend 
Any news from Immaculate?
Any news from Immaculate?
The Sansman
Warlord
First off boy did this come back to me fast I thought on Wednesday, when I did the report, that I would not have to worry about this SG until the weekend 
. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that everyone seems to be able to play when it their turn. I am just annoyed with myself that I seem to be the slow poke of the group.
Alright I have played 10 turns I have built some Tanks and Infantry for a future assault on someone. We have a Great Scientist (Paris & can get Fission) and a Great General (Timbuktu), I did not know what do with them so I left them alone
. Also we have two settlers (see pictures at the end), at the beginning of my turn set our economy did not look good enough to support more cities so I left them alone (also because I did not notice them until later). Since there were not really any discussion on where to build Wall Street, Ironworks or anything else I left those things alone. Another reason why I did not build them was because I did not think I would able to pick an appropriate city for either. I did build some factories. Another thing, should we bother with 3 Gorges Dam? I think we should because I would like to use Japan as the Space Ship builder (as Tratan suggested) and us as the dominator (I would like to have some fun too). A production boost across the board for us may be useful.
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Turn 505/660 (1895 AD) [01-Mar-2007 21:21:38]
Tech learned: Rocketry
Djenne finishes: Coal Plant
Djenne begins: Hermitage (6 turns)
Paris grows: 16
Karakorum finishes: The Statue of Liberty
Gao finishes: Infantry
Walata grows: 19
Niani finishes: Grocer
Awdaghost grows: 12
Alemanni finishes: Hindu Temple
Wadan finishes: Jewish Missionary
After Rocketry came in I choose Flight. I like to use bombers to cripple the city defenders so that my Tanks/Modern Armor can use all their attacks without losses. Also this happened.
IBT:
Turn 506/660 (1896 AD) [01-Mar-2007 21:30:29]
Research begun: Flight (18 Turns)
Karakorum begins: Factory (6 turns)
Gao begins: Tank (6 turns)
Niani begins: Coal Plant (5 turns)
Niani begins: Tank (6 turns)
Alemanni begins: Factory (21 turns)
Alemanni begins: Grocer (13 turns)
Wadan begins: Factory (13 turns)
A Windmill was built near Gao
A Fishing Boats near Bibracte was destroyed by Malinese Destroyer
Infantry promoted: City Garrison I
A Village was built near Ning-hsia
We had some visitors.
Which were quickly dealt with.
IBT:
Turn 507/660 (1897 AD) [01-Mar-2007 21:44:25]
Judaism has spread: Kumbi Saleh
Timbuktu finishes: Battleship
Turfan grows: 17
Awdaghost finishes: Jewish Missionary
Tadmekka finishes: Destroyer
Tekedda grows: 8
Awlil grows: 5
Wadan grows: 7
IBT:
Turn 508/660 (1898 AD) [01-Mar-2007 21:50:57]
Timbuktu begins: Battleship (5 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Jewish Missionary (3 turns)
Tadmekka begins: Factory (13 turns)
While attacking in Malinese territory near Wadan, Destroyer defeats (26.70/30): Indian Frigate (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Judaism has spread: Niani
A Mine was built near Tekedda
A Cottage was built near Gao
A Lumbermill was built near Tadmekka
Kumbi Saleh finishes: Theatre
Paris grows: 17
Niani grows: 17
Awdaghost grows: 13
IBT:
Turn 509/660 (1899 AD) [01-Mar-2007 21:56:49]
Karakorum grows: 21
Beshbalik finishes: Infantry
New Sarai grows: 13
Awdaghost finishes: Jewish Missionary
IBT:
Turn 510/660 (1900 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:01:52]
Beshbalik begins: Tank (9 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Jewish Missionary (3 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Awdaghost
Djenne grows: 16
Djenne finishes: Hermitage
Djenne begins: Jewish Temple (2 turns)
Kumbi Saleh grows: 16
Paris grows: 18
Gao grows: 17
Walata grows: 20
Walata's borders expand
Tekedda finishes: Factory
IBT:
Turn 511/660 (1901 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:06:28]
Tekedda begins: Bank (7 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Wadan
A Lumbermill was built near Djenne
Judaism has spread: Alemanni
Timbuktu finishes: Battleship
Djenne finishes: Jewish Temple
Djenne begins: Jewish Synagogue (5 turns)
Karakorum finishes: Factory
Gao finishes: Tank
Ning-hsia grows: 11
New Sarai finishes: Factory
Niani finishes: Tank
IBT:
Turn 512/660 (1902 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:12:01]
Timbuktu begins: Battleship (5 turns)
Karakorum begins: Tank (3 turns)
Gao begins: Tank (6 turns)
New Sarai begins: Infantry (9 turns)
Niani begins: Tank (6 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Tadmekka
Walata finishes: Factory
Old Sarai finishes: Observatory
Turfan grows: 18
Awdaghost grows: 14
Awdaghost finishes: Jewish Missionary
IBT:
Apparently news of how we treat the unwelcome had not reached German.
I gave them the same welcome as I gave the Romans. There was a Galleon with the Frigate so I am hoping that there were more losses then reported. Also I sank a Roman Frigate near Rome.
Turn 513/660 (1903 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:18:06]
Walata begins: Jewish Temple (2 turns)
Old Sarai begins: Bank (24 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Jewish Missionary (3 turns)
While attacking in Roman territory at Rome, Battleship defeats (36.00/40): Roman Frigate (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in Malinese territory near Alemanni, Destroyer defeats (23.40/30): German Frigate (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in Malinese territory near Alemanni, Destroyer defeats (30.00/30): German Galleon (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Paris grows: 19
Ning-hsia finishes: University
Niani grows: 18
IBT:
Turn 514/660 (1904 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:23:30]
A Lumbermill was built near Wadan
Judaism has spread: Turfan
A Village was built near Timbuktu
Karakorum finishes: Tank
A Town was built near Gao
A Town was built near Gao
Walata finishes: Jewish Temple
Awdaghost finishes: Jewish Missionary
I asked Tokugawa to study Radio, for Bombers. Also I asked for more gold per turn to help our economy. I may have abused this, see pictures:
Good news; we can now tech at 100% and still make money. Bad news; Japan can no longer do as well. If I have erred on this please let me know. This is the first time I have been in a Permanent Alliance and as such I may have gone too far.
IBT:
Turn 515/660 (1905 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:31:27]
Karakorum begins: Artillery (3 turns)
Walata begins: Transport (5 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Jewish Missionary (3 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Tekedda
Our Continent:
Japans Continent:
Domestic Advisor:
Financial Advisor, this more clearly shows the abuse I did:
Our settlers:
Troop build up, Great Scientist and Great General:
Basically I think we are in good shape to develop a decent army for capturing/razing anyone. We should pick a target and go to work. I vote for the Romans first because they are closer to our more developed cities. Thus getting troops over there should be easy. Once we get airports built we can go after anyone we choose.
The Save.
. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Please do not misunderstand me, I think it is great that everyone seems to be able to play when it their turn. I am just annoyed with myself that I seem to be the slow poke of the group.Alright I have played 10 turns I have built some Tanks and Infantry for a future assault on someone. We have a Great Scientist (Paris & can get Fission) and a Great General (Timbuktu), I did not know what do with them so I left them alone
. Also we have two settlers (see pictures at the end), at the beginning of my turn set our economy did not look good enough to support more cities so I left them alone (also because I did not notice them until later). Since there were not really any discussion on where to build Wall Street, Ironworks or anything else I left those things alone. Another reason why I did not build them was because I did not think I would able to pick an appropriate city for either. I did build some factories. Another thing, should we bother with 3 Gorges Dam? I think we should because I would like to use Japan as the Space Ship builder (as Tratan suggested) and us as the dominator (I would like to have some fun too). A production boost across the board for us may be useful.Logging by Ruff's Cobbled Mod Pack v2.0.4 (Warlords v2.08) - New Log Entries
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Turn 505/660 (1895 AD) [01-Mar-2007 21:21:38]
Tech learned: Rocketry
Djenne finishes: Coal Plant
Djenne begins: Hermitage (6 turns)
Paris grows: 16
Karakorum finishes: The Statue of Liberty
Gao finishes: Infantry
Walata grows: 19
Niani finishes: Grocer
Awdaghost grows: 12
Alemanni finishes: Hindu Temple
Wadan finishes: Jewish Missionary
After Rocketry came in I choose Flight. I like to use bombers to cripple the city defenders so that my Tanks/Modern Armor can use all their attacks without losses. Also this happened.
IBT:
Turn 506/660 (1896 AD) [01-Mar-2007 21:30:29]
Research begun: Flight (18 Turns)
Karakorum begins: Factory (6 turns)
Gao begins: Tank (6 turns)
Niani begins: Coal Plant (5 turns)
Niani begins: Tank (6 turns)
Alemanni begins: Factory (21 turns)
Alemanni begins: Grocer (13 turns)
Wadan begins: Factory (13 turns)
A Windmill was built near Gao
A Fishing Boats near Bibracte was destroyed by Malinese Destroyer
Infantry promoted: City Garrison I
A Village was built near Ning-hsia
We had some visitors.
Which were quickly dealt with.
IBT:
Turn 507/660 (1897 AD) [01-Mar-2007 21:44:25]
Judaism has spread: Kumbi Saleh
Timbuktu finishes: Battleship
Turfan grows: 17
Awdaghost finishes: Jewish Missionary
Tadmekka finishes: Destroyer
Tekedda grows: 8
Awlil grows: 5
Wadan grows: 7
IBT:
Turn 508/660 (1898 AD) [01-Mar-2007 21:50:57]
Timbuktu begins: Battleship (5 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Jewish Missionary (3 turns)
Tadmekka begins: Factory (13 turns)
While attacking in Malinese territory near Wadan, Destroyer defeats (26.70/30): Indian Frigate (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Judaism has spread: Niani
A Mine was built near Tekedda
A Cottage was built near Gao
A Lumbermill was built near Tadmekka
Kumbi Saleh finishes: Theatre
Paris grows: 17
Niani grows: 17
Awdaghost grows: 13
IBT:
Turn 509/660 (1899 AD) [01-Mar-2007 21:56:49]
Karakorum grows: 21
Beshbalik finishes: Infantry
New Sarai grows: 13
Awdaghost finishes: Jewish Missionary
IBT:
Turn 510/660 (1900 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:01:52]
Beshbalik begins: Tank (9 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Jewish Missionary (3 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Awdaghost
Djenne grows: 16
Djenne finishes: Hermitage
Djenne begins: Jewish Temple (2 turns)
Kumbi Saleh grows: 16
Paris grows: 18
Gao grows: 17
Walata grows: 20
Walata's borders expand
Tekedda finishes: Factory
IBT:
Turn 511/660 (1901 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:06:28]
Tekedda begins: Bank (7 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Wadan
A Lumbermill was built near Djenne
Judaism has spread: Alemanni
Timbuktu finishes: Battleship
Djenne finishes: Jewish Temple
Djenne begins: Jewish Synagogue (5 turns)
Karakorum finishes: Factory
Gao finishes: Tank
Ning-hsia grows: 11
New Sarai finishes: Factory
Niani finishes: Tank
IBT:
Turn 512/660 (1902 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:12:01]
Timbuktu begins: Battleship (5 turns)
Karakorum begins: Tank (3 turns)
Gao begins: Tank (6 turns)
New Sarai begins: Infantry (9 turns)
Niani begins: Tank (6 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Tadmekka
Walata finishes: Factory
Old Sarai finishes: Observatory
Turfan grows: 18
Awdaghost grows: 14
Awdaghost finishes: Jewish Missionary
IBT:
Apparently news of how we treat the unwelcome had not reached German.
I gave them the same welcome as I gave the Romans. There was a Galleon with the Frigate so I am hoping that there were more losses then reported. Also I sank a Roman Frigate near Rome.
Turn 513/660 (1903 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:18:06]
Walata begins: Jewish Temple (2 turns)
Old Sarai begins: Bank (24 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Jewish Missionary (3 turns)
While attacking in Roman territory at Rome, Battleship defeats (36.00/40): Roman Frigate (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in Malinese territory near Alemanni, Destroyer defeats (23.40/30): German Frigate (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
While attacking in Malinese territory near Alemanni, Destroyer defeats (30.00/30): German Galleon (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Paris grows: 19
Ning-hsia finishes: University
Niani grows: 18
IBT:
Turn 514/660 (1904 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:23:30]
A Lumbermill was built near Wadan
Judaism has spread: Turfan
A Village was built near Timbuktu
Karakorum finishes: Tank
A Town was built near Gao
A Town was built near Gao
Walata finishes: Jewish Temple
Awdaghost finishes: Jewish Missionary
I asked Tokugawa to study Radio, for Bombers. Also I asked for more gold per turn to help our economy. I may have abused this, see pictures:
Good news; we can now tech at 100% and still make money. Bad news; Japan can no longer do as well. If I have erred on this please let me know. This is the first time I have been in a Permanent Alliance and as such I may have gone too far.
IBT:
Turn 515/660 (1905 AD) [01-Mar-2007 22:31:27]
Karakorum begins: Artillery (3 turns)
Walata begins: Transport (5 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Jewish Missionary (3 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Tekedda
Our Continent:
Japans Continent:
Domestic Advisor:
Financial Advisor, this more clearly shows the abuse I did:
Our settlers:
Troop build up, Great Scientist and Great General:
Basically I think we are in good shape to develop a decent army for capturing/razing anyone. We should pick a target and go to work. I vote for the Romans first because they are closer to our more developed cities. Thus getting troops over there should be easy. Once we get airports built we can go after anyone we choose.
The Save.
Turns until the end. (2050 AD)
This team has carte blanche for our war plan. One enemy at the time
or multiple fronts. Capturing or razing cities. War weariness, switch to
police state.
Maybe we should continue with this SG next week.
Random roster :
GreyFox
Tatran
The Sansman
Skipped :
negyvenketto
Immaculate
This team has carte blanche for our war plan. One enemy at the time
or multiple fronts. Capturing or razing cities. War weariness, switch to
police state.
Maybe we should continue with this SG next week.
Random roster :
GreyFox
Tatran
The Sansman
Skipped :
negyvenketto
Immaculate
The Sansman
Warlord
Since I am last on the list it does not matter to me if the rest of you feel we need a short break. If we go ahead and I come up I will play if I am able to.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
Geez, it's back to me, so fast?
I wouldn't be grabbing all the gold from Toku.... the question is who is better at research. I think the answer is obvious ... so by asking all the gold from toku so that w ecan do 100% research, it is akin to having a city with academy and Oxford to produce wealth so that a city with Wall Street can produce Research.
I think it will be more effective to focus on one enemy at a time.
I wouldn't be grabbing all the gold from Toku.... the question is who is better at research. I think the answer is obvious ... so by asking all the gold from toku so that w ecan do 100% research, it is akin to having a city with academy and Oxford to produce wealth so that a city with Wall Street can produce Research.
I think it will be more effective to focus on one enemy at a time.
GreyFox
Make it so ...
I originally intended to open up the save and determine the best locations for Wall Street, Ironworks, West Points, etc. Ended up playing my 15 turns 
First off, I still don't understand after my previous gripe why it was so insistent that NingShia build troops. No! That is ours highest commerce city. It should be building Oxford, Observatory, etc.
Ended up I started West Point in our capitol, Ironworks in the next highest hammer count, and Ningshia of-course started the Oxford. I also had Paris started the Wall Street, since it is the only city that can support large number of merchants to make wall street useful. Speaking of Paris, why was all the specialist removed???? Anyway, I added them back.
This result in us getting a great merchant, I was comptemplating on starting a golden age, but decided to burn the scientist for Fission. The merchant should be held on to until we pop another great person to trigger a golden age.
It is really an abuse to be grabbing 3x177 + 168 gold from Toku. I returned most of them back at the earliest opportunity I can. This of-course resulted in us dropping science back, and I revolted to state property which ease the situation significantly.
I have been quite diligent in religion spread, so we should probably switch back to free relgion once most cities get both Judaism and Hinduism.
After waiting for Toku to start the Apollo Program for some turns to no avail, I started it. Meanwhile toku completes the Pentagon.
We now have sufficient compliment of coastal guards, PLEASE DONT pull them off to pillage anymore. If you really want to do that, build more ships.
I added 5 cities to our empire (the last two prompted my decision to switch to State Property):
One wonders what should the Romans call themselves now that they no longer own Rome.
>>> The Save (1920AD) <<<
First off, I still don't understand after my previous gripe why it was so insistent that NingShia build troops. No! That is ours highest commerce city. It should be building Oxford, Observatory, etc.
Ended up I started West Point in our capitol, Ironworks in the next highest hammer count, and Ningshia of-course started the Oxford. I also had Paris started the Wall Street, since it is the only city that can support large number of merchants to make wall street useful. Speaking of Paris, why was all the specialist removed???? Anyway, I added them back.
This result in us getting a great merchant, I was comptemplating on starting a golden age, but decided to burn the scientist for Fission. The merchant should be held on to until we pop another great person to trigger a golden age.
It is really an abuse to be grabbing 3x177 + 168 gold from Toku. I returned most of them back at the earliest opportunity I can. This of-course resulted in us dropping science back, and I revolted to state property which ease the situation significantly.
I have been quite diligent in religion spread, so we should probably switch back to free relgion once most cities get both Judaism and Hinduism.
After waiting for Toku to start the Apollo Program for some turns to no avail, I started it. Meanwhile toku completes the Pentagon.
We now have sufficient compliment of coastal guards, PLEASE DONT pull them off to pillage anymore. If you really want to do that, build more ships.
I added 5 cities to our empire (the last two prompted my decision to switch to State Property):
One wonders what should the Romans call themselves now that they no longer own Rome.
>>> The Save (1920AD) <<<
Spoiler Autolog :
Immaculate
unerring
- Joined
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- 7,623
Hi, i am back from my trip but i still can't play any CD/DVDs (stupid Dell was supposed to send it over 3 weeks ago now and it was supposed to be next day delivery- i am so not impressed). But its a nice read and i am sorry i can't play.
On the up-side, i am married now!
I.
On the up-side, i am married now!
I.
So it was a love trip, you must be very exhausted.
Ok, I'm playing and report within a few hours.
Pre-turn
Cancel the 168 gpt deal from Tokugawa.
1922 AD (2)
Rush mint in Rome.
1924 AD (4)
Lost a tank at 98% combat odds.
1926 AD (6)
Computers is known, start to research Fascism.
Rush mint in Antium.
1927 AD (7)
1928 AD (8)
Fascism is known, start to research Ecology.
Our ally is building a lot of nuclear plants.
Tokugawa gets the free Great General.
1929 AD (9)
1930 AD (10)
We had some global warming, because our ally had a nuclear meltdown in Mycenae.
Rush mint in Pisae.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/20970/TNT1_AD-1930.CivWarlordsSave
Cancel the 168 gpt deal from Tokugawa.
1922 AD (2)
Rush mint in Rome.
1924 AD (4)
Lost a tank at 98% combat odds.
1926 AD (6)
Computers is known, start to research Fascism.
Rush mint in Antium.
1927 AD (7)
1928 AD (8)
Fascism is known, start to research Ecology.
Our ally is building a lot of nuclear plants.
Tokugawa gets the free Great General.
1929 AD (9)
1930 AD (10)
We had some global warming, because our ally had a nuclear meltdown in Mycenae.
Rush mint in Pisae.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/20970/TNT1_AD-1930.CivWarlordsSave
The Sansman
Warlord
Sorry, guys something came up and I will be unable to play for a couple of days. Please skip or swap me.
negyvenketto
Scientist
The end is nearing. We got 48% world population (62% needed for diplomatic
victory), 37% land area (51% needed for domination) and the first spaceship
parts are being build by our ally, Japan. We need Mass Media for the U.N.
I suggest to finish this game as soon as possible. This concept was to easy
at the ned, maybe a non-financial civ at Emperor or Mali again at Immortal
would be more competitive.
Everyone plays 10 turns from now !
Roster :
The Sansman
Played :
GreyFox
Tatran
negyvenketto
Skipped :
Immaculate
victory), 37% land area (51% needed for domination) and the first spaceship
parts are being build by our ally, Japan. We need Mass Media for the U.N.
I suggest to finish this game as soon as possible. This concept was to easy
at the ned, maybe a non-financial civ at Emperor or Mali again at Immortal
would be more competitive.
Everyone plays 10 turns from now !
Roster :
The Sansman
Played :
GreyFox
Tatran
negyvenketto
Skipped :
Immaculate
Immaculate
unerring
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- 7,623
I'm back now.
