TNT1 : Monarch, custom continents, PP or PW

Random roster :
GreyFox
Tatran
The Sansman

Played :
negyvenketto

Skipped :
Immaculate
 
A quiet and uneventful turnset ... except for losing a frigate to a caravel at 95% odds :gripe:

We learnt railways ... and started building rails all around mines and lumbermills. We do not have enough workers, but it is a good thing previous player started to produce some.

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Despite the signs, I think a city which grab more resources is superior, thus:

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We have a great scientist borned:

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I suggest using him to lightbulb scimeth. But before that, build some monastries. We need to spread Judaism and Christianity for happiness.

Why? Because I am headed towards Constitution for Representation. Once we get out of HR, happiness problem would hit us hard.

Nationalism is in late in my 10-turns (Nat is on path towards constitution). I started the Taj Mahal.

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>>> The Save (1825AD) <<<

We have to decide whether to go war path and grab us some off-continent cities. If we decide not to, then we should should choose some city to build the Forbidden Palace. I recommend not to take city off-continent, and focus on space race.

Spoiler autolog :

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Turn 425/660 (1815 AD) [25-Feb-2007 23:48:35]
Timbuktu finishes: Frigate
Djenne finishes: Worker
Djenne begins: Worker (6 turns)
Old Sarai finishes: Courthouse
Ning-hsia grows: 4
Ning-hsia finishes: Granary
New Sarai grows: 3

IBT:

Turn 426/660 (1816 AD) [26-Feb-2007 00:02:21]
Timbuktu begins: Settler (5 turns)
Old Sarai begins: University (28 turns)
Alemanni begins: Library (68 turns)
A Quarry was built near Niani
A Mine was built near Turfan
While attacking in Ottoman territory near Gaziantep, Frigate defeats (8.00/8): Roman Trireme (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
Tech learned: Railroad

IBT:
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'

Turn 427/660 (1817 AD) [26-Feb-2007 00:10:58]
Research begun: Nationalism (5 Turns)
A Fishing Boats near Harappan was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
While attacking in Roman territory near Ravenna, Frigate defeats (8.00/8): Roman Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.7%)
Merit Ptah (Scientist) (Great Scientist) born in Paris
Karakorum grows: 12
A Town was built near Turfan
Niani grows: 4

IBT:
Attitude Change: Brennus(Celtia) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'
Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Ramesses II(Egypt), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'

Turn 428/660 (1818 AD) [26-Feb-2007 00:14:55]
Tekedda founded
Tekedda begins: Library (68 turns)
While attacking on the high seas, Frigate defeats (5.12/8): Roman Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.8%)
A Fishing Boats near Istanbul was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
A Fishing Boats near Ravenna was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
Kumbi Saleh finishes: Frigate
Beshbalik finishes: Market

IBT:
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Cyrus(Persia), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Cyrus(Persia) towards Stalin(Russia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 429/660 (1819 AD) [26-Feb-2007 00:19:38]
Kumbi Saleh begins: Frigate (14 turns)
Beshbalik begins: Longbowman (5 turns)
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Thebes, Frigate defeats (4.88/8): German Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.7%)
Frigate promoted: Combat I
A Fishing Boats near Edirne was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
A Mine was built near Ning-hsia
A Lumbermill was built near Timbuktu
Turfan grows: 6

IBT:
Attitude Change: Huayna Capac(Inca) towards Bismarck(Germany), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 430/660 (1820 AD) [26-Feb-2007 00:23:42]
A Fishing Boats near Konya was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
While attacking just off shore near Yakutsk, Frigate defeats (7.12/8): Indian Trireme (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Frigate promoted: Medic I
Timbuktu finishes: Settler
Paris finishes: Aqueduct
Gao finishes: Courthouse
Awdaghost grows: 3
Tadmekka finishes: Library
Alemanni grows: 4

IBT:
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Hannibal(Carthage), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 431/660 (1821 AD) [26-Feb-2007 00:26:29]
Timbuktu begins: Worker (3 turns)
Tadmekka begins: Granary (23 turns)
A Windmill was built near Tadmekka
A Farm was built near Niani
While attacking on the high seas near Ankara, Frigate defeats (8.00/8): German Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
While attacking just off shore near Yakutsk, Frigate defeats (6.08/8): Indian Caravel (Prob Victory: 98.9%)
Paris begins: National Epic (18 turns)
Tech learned: Nationalism
Djenne finishes: Worker
Djenne begins: Worker (6 turns)
Kumbi Saleh's borders expand
Paris grows: 16
Walata grows: 9
New Sarai grows: 4

IBT:
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Cyrus(Persia), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Huayna Capac(Inca) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Huayna Capac(Inca) towards Cyrus(Persia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards Hannibal(Carthage), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Cyrus(Persia) towards Stalin(Russia), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 432/660 (1822 AD) [26-Feb-2007 00:30:01]
Research begun: Constitution (5 Turns)
Timbuktu finishes: Worker
Beshbalik finishes: Longbowman

IBT:
Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Brennus(Celtia), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 433/660 (1823 AD) [26-Feb-2007 00:34:30]
Timbuktu begins: The Taj Mahal (19 turns)
Beshbalik begins: Barracks (5 turns)
While attacking in Indian territory near Canterbury, Frigate loses to: Indian Caravel (0.45/3) (Prob Victory: 95.5%)
A Fishing Boats near Calcutta was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
A Fishing Boats near Thebes was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
Karakorum grows: 13
Karakorum finishes: Grocer
Beshbalik grows: 11

IBT:
Attitude Change: Brennus(Celtia) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Stalin(Russia) towards Hannibal(Carthage), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 434/660 (1824 AD) [26-Feb-2007 00:37:59]
Karakorum begins: Heroic Epic (8 turns)
While attacking in Roman territory near Ravenna, Frigate defeats (6.96/8): Roman Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.7%)
A Lumbermill was built near Timbuktu
Turfan grows: 7

IBT:

Turn 435/660 (1825 AD) [26-Feb-2007 00:40:06]
While attacking in Indian territory at London, Frigate defeats (6.96/8): Indian Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.7%)
A Fishing Boats near Harappan was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
A Plantation was built near Awdaghost
 
I prefer to run Organized Religion a couple of turns to create missionaries
instead of building some monasteries. It's too late to build them and Scientific Method
opens too many techs our empire needs, like Biology. Also, we should collect some more religions.

1827 AD (2)
Constitution is known, start to research Scientific Method.
Switch civics : Representation + Mercantilism
Tokugawa, Hannibal and Huayna Capac already running Mercantilism.
Stalin, Cyrus and Brennus have only a total of 6 (small) cities.
Use the Great Scientist to speed up Scientific Method.

IBT 1828 AD
I almost never go for the Taj Mahal. Reason, the AI always rushes it with an engineer.
Previous turn Tokugawa got an Great Engineer and guess what. He also finished Versailles.

1829 AD (4)
Awlil founded.

1830 AD (5)
Scientific Method is known, start to research Biology. We have oil.

IBT 1830 AD

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1831 AD (6)
Give Hannibal ivory for free.

IBT 1831 AD
I like the Celtic music, but I don't like this message.

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I also refuse to trade world maps with Huayna Capac.
Bad news, the Germans captured Carthage.
In the near future we have to do something about our military.
Our enemies don't have Astronomy yet.

1832 AD (7)
Rush the library in Alemanni.

IBT 1832 AD
Augustus Caesar removed the Ottomans.

1834 AD (9)
Enrico Fermi has been born in Timbuktu. We can use him to speed up Physics.

IBT 1834 AD
The Incas have destroyed Persia.

IBT 1835 AD

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1836 AD (11)
Paris has finished the National Epic wonder.
Wadan founded.

1838 AD (13)
Augustus Caesar has Astronomy!

1839 AD (14)
Biology is known, start to research Rifling.


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Ok got it. :scan: I looked around at the save and decided that I will continue on the building of infrastructure. I am guessing the team as a whole just wishes to go on to a space race victory. So I will be trying to get us techs and builds to support that. Due the current time, I will have to play this tomorrow.
 
Part I

I went through all the cities and decided that there would be some .:whipped: Due to time constrains I will not list the cities I whipped but know that a good portion of the builds to be completed on my first turn are because of it. I did this now so that the next player will not have to worry about the unhappiness from it, and because the production of all the cities are really poor IMHO. We need some Factories.


Someone listed the “Most Advance Civilizations” where we were at the top:goodjob:.

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Tokugawa then came with this deal:

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I did not think the gold was enough for the beaker difference so I said no. Tokugawa would not consider any amount higher so there was no deal.

Rifling came in.

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Set us on Corporation (4 Turns) for Wall Street. I did some pillaging as well around Roman Cities.

Tokugawa then asked for this.

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Again I said no. I saw no reason to give him more happiness. But Huayna also asked for this.

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To which I said yes and further made this trade.

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I noticed a Japanese Galleon earlier but paid it no attention, and got this little surprise.

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Louis Pasteur was born in Paris.:crazyeye:

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This came up shortly afterwards.

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Corporation came in, I went for Physics next. I thought great I can now build Wall Street :D, but not enough Banks :aargh::wallbash:. And Old Sarai got Hinduism in 1850.
 
Part II

Since I was running low on gold I checked on Tokugawa to see what he would give for Chemistry:

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I then checked with Huayna to see if I could relieve him his gold.

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Now for the bad news :(:

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I gifted Hannibal silver in the hopes of getting a tech off of him but it was a no go :mad:. Next player can cancel the trade if they do not see any value in it. I burned one of the Great Scientists we had on Physics. We got it first so we now have two Great Scientists in our possession. I choose Democracy since we are now starting to get some unhappiness from Japan’s Emancipation:gripe:. And the Celtic are now gone.

At the end of my turn set this how things looked:

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Foreign Advisor:

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Religion Advisor:

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Spoiler :

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Turn 450/660 (1840 AD) [27-Feb-2007 20:52:44]
Awdaghost begins: Market (38 turns)
Alemanni begins: Market (113 turns)
Tekedda begins: Courthouse (20 turns)
Walata begins: Grocer (15 turns)
Karakorum grows: 17
Walata finishes: Barracks
Old Sarai finishes: University
A Town was built near Ning-hsia
New Sarai grows: 8
Awdaghost finishes: Library
Alemanni's borders expand
Alemanni finishes: Courthouse
Tekedda finishes: Library

IBT:

Turn 451/660 (1841 AD) [27-Feb-2007 21:15:12]
Old Sarai begins: Grocer (18 turns)
A Pasture was built near Wadan
A Farm was built near Awdaghost
While attacking just off shore near Cologne, Frigate defeats (6.96/8): German Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.7%)
Gao grows: 14
Walata grows: 11
Old Sarai grows: 8

IBT:

Turn 452/660 (1842 AD) [27-Feb-2007 21:27:03]
A Mine was built near Tekedda
Timbuktu finishes: Drydock
Christianity has spread: Timbuktu
Djenne finishes: Worker
Djenne begins: Worker (4 turns)
Kumbi Saleh grows: 11
Karakorum finishes: Grenadier
Beshbalik grows: 15
Turfan grows: 11
Alemanni grows: 3

IBT:

Turn 453/660 (1843 AD) [27-Feb-2007 21:30:07]
Timbuktu begins: Aqueduct (4 turns)
Karakorum begins: University (12 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Awlil
While attacking in Roman territory near Rome, Frigate defeats (8.00/8): Roman Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.7%)
Karakorum grows: 18
Beshbalik finishes: Grenadier
Niani grows: 8
Awdaghost grows: 5
Awlil finishes: Theatre

IBT:
Attitude Change: Huayna Capac(Inca) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'

Turn 454/660 (1844 AD) [27-Feb-2007 21:55:20]
Beshbalik begins: University (12 turns)
Awlil begins: Granary (15 turns)
A Fishing Boats near Rome was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
Tech learned: Rifling
A Village was built near Gao
A Village was built near Gao
Walata grows: 12
New Sarai grows: 9
Niani finishes: Courthouse

IBT:

Turn 455/660 (1845 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:00:13]
Research begun: Corporation (4 Turns)
Niani begins: Library (9 turns)
A Fishing Boats near Rome was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
A Fishing Boats near Antium was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
Djenne finishes: Worker
Djenne begins: Worker (4 turns)
Gao finishes: Mint
Niani's borders expand
A Village was built near Awlil

IBT:

Turn 456/660 (1846 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:07:28]
Gao begins: Market (9 turns)
A Mine was built near Niani
Djenne begins: Courthouse (9 turns)
Timbuktu finishes: Aqueduct
Karakorum grows: 19
Turfan grows: 8
Turfan finishes: Mint
Tadmekka grows: 5
Awlil's borders expand

IBT:
Attitude Change: Hannibal(Carthage) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'

Turn 457/660 (1847 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:13:07]
Timbuktu begins: Courthouse (4 turns)
Turfan begins: Library (45 turns)
Karakorum's borders expand
Gao grows: 15
Niani grows: 9

IBT:

Turn 458/660 (1848 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:17:00]
While attacking in Roman territory at Rome, Frigate defeats (5.76/8): Roman Galleon (Prob Victory: 99.0%)
A Lumbermill was built near Wadan
A Lumbermill was built near Walata
Tech learned: Corporation
Walata grows: 13
Beshbalik grows: 16
Ning-hsia grows: 6
New Sarai grows: 10
Turfan grows: 9
Awdaghost's borders expand
Tekedda's borders expand
Wadan grows: 2

IBT:
Attitude Change: Huayna Capac(Inca) towards Brennus(Celtia), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Tokugawa(Japan) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'

Turn 459/660 (1849 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:19:32]
Research begun: Physics (9 Turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Tekedda
A Lumbermill was built near Alemanni
A Lumbermill was built near Djenne
Louis Pasteur (Scientist) (Great Scientist) born in Paris
Awdaghost grows: 6
Alemanni grows: 4
Tekedda grows: 3
Wadan finishes: Theatre

IBT:
Attitude Change: Ramesses II(Egypt) towards Augustus Caesar(Rome), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'
Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Pleased' to 'Friendly'

Turn 460/660 (1850 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:23:27]
Wadan begins: Granary (12 turns)
Timbuktu finishes: Courthouse
Kumbi Saleh grows: 12
Hinduism has spread: Old Sarai

IBT:

Turn 461/660 (1851 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:26:38]
Timbuktu begins: Frigate (3 turns)
Timbuktu begins: Christian Temple (2 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Wadan
Timbuktu finishes: Christian Temple
Karakorum grows: 20
Walata grows: 14
Old Sarai's borders expand
Niani grows: 10

IBT:
Attitude Change: Hannibal(Carthage) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Pleased' to 'Cautious'
Attitude Change: Gandhi(India) towards Brennus(Celtia), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Brennus(Celtia) towards Gandhi(India), from 'Cautious' to 'Pleased'
Attitude Change: Augustus Caesar(Rome) towards Tokugawa(Japan), from 'Friendly' to 'Pleased'
Civics Change: Tokugawa(Japan) from 'Hereditary Rule' to 'Universal Suffrage'
Civics Change: Tokugawa(Japan) from 'Slavery' to 'Emancipation'

Turn 462/660 (1852 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:34:38]
A Pasture was built near Tekedda
New Sarai finishes: Harbor
Turfan grows: 10
Wadan's borders expand

IBT:
Attitude Change: Bismarck(Germany) towards Hannibal(Carthage), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 463/660 (1853 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:37:31]
New Sarai begins: Bank (38 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Walata
Paris finishes: Observatory
Karakorum finishes: University
New Sarai grows: 11
Niani finishes: Library
Tekedda finishes: Courthouse

IBT:
Celtic Empire has been eliminated

Turn 464/660 (1854 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:46:05]
Paris begins: University (24 turns)
Karakorum begins: Bank (12 turns)
Niani begins: Bank (18 turns)
Tekedda begins: Granary (10 turns)
Tech learned: Physics
Nicolaus Copernicus (Scientist) (Great Scientist) born in Timbuktu
Timbuktu finishes: Frigate
Djenne grows: 12
Djenne finishes: Courthouse
Djenne begins: Worker (4 turns)
Gao finishes: Market
Tadmekka grows: 6
Tadmekka finishes: Mint

IBT:

Turn 465/660 (1855 AD) [27-Feb-2007 22:50:33]
Research begun: Democracy (6 Turns)
Timbuktu begins: Frigate (3 turns)
Gao begins: Bank (12 turns)
Tadmekka begins: Bank (17 turns)


Here's the save.
 
We still have a long way to go and I'm worried about our military.
Augustus Caesar and Gandhi have Astronomy. One defender in our
coastal cities isn't enough.


Random roster :
negyvenketto
GreyFox
Tatran
The Sansman

Skipped :
Immaculate
 
I played 10 turns, mostly quiet. Trade Rice for Clams with HC. Built Forbidden Palace in Karakorum, started Wall Street and Statue of Liberty.
We got Democracy, but I haven't switched to Emancipation, yet 'cos Slavery is so powerfull. We don't have too much penalty, yet.
Burned the 2 GS on Electricity (2x3105:science:) I think settling them is not worth now (too late to pay off). Electr. is on next turn, can be followed by Assembly line and Combustion?

I agree we should think about defense soon.
Bismarck almost finished Egypt. He has Chemistry (grenadiers, frigates) :(
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His other opponent, Hannibal has Mil. Trad. (Cavalries) :D
HC and Toku also know Chemistry.

The power graph:
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Spoiler :

Turn 465/660 (1855 AD) [28-Feb-2007 19:18:09]
Beshbalik begins: Bank (12 turns)
Alemanni begins: Work Boat (9 turns)
Karakorum grows: 16
Karakorum finishes: Bank
Walata finishes: Grocer
Beshbalik finishes: University
Old Sarai grows: 9
Turfan grows: 11
Alemanni grows: 5

IBT:

Turn 466/660 (1856 AD) [28-Feb-2007 20:04:08]
Karakorum begins: Forbidden Palace (15 turns)
Walata begins: Bank (14 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Alemanni
Timbuktu finishes: Frigate
Niani grows: 11
Awlil grows: 2

IBT:

Turn 467/660 (1857 AD) [28-Feb-2007 20:19:56]
Timbuktu begins: Frigate (3 turns)
Frigate promoted: Combat I
Frigate promoted: Drill I
Frigate promoted: Combat II
While attacking in German territory near Essen, Frigate defeats (7.04/8): German Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
A Fishing Boats near Berlin was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
Djenne finishes: Worker
Djenne begins: Worker (4 turns)
Kumbi Saleh finishes: Courthouse
Old Sarai finishes: Grocer
Ning-hsia grows: 7
Awdaghost grows: 7

IBT:

Turn 468/660 (1858 AD) [28-Feb-2007 20:24:45]
Kumbi Saleh begins: Observatory (15 turns)
Old Sarai begins: Harbor (10 turns)
A Farm was built near Awlil
A Mine was built near Karakorum
A Fishing Boats near Philadelphia was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
While attacking in Roman territory near Philadelphia, Frigate defeats (6.08/8): Roman Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
A Whaling Boats near Philadelphia was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
A Fishing Boats near Thebes was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
Djenne begins: Grocer (9 turns)
Gao begins: Grocer (9 turns)
Walata begins: Observatory (14 turns)
Beshbalik begins: Observatory (14 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Mint (26 turns)
Timbuktu finishes: Frigate
Gao grows: 12
Gao finishes: Bank
Walata grows: 10
Walata finishes: Bank
Beshbalik finishes: Bank
Awdaghost finishes: Market
Awlil finishes: Granary
Judaism has spread: Wadan

IBT:

Turn 469/660 (1859 AD) [28-Feb-2007 20:39:38]
Timbuktu begins: Frigate (3 turns)
Awlil begins: Harbor (14 turns)
A Mine was built near Tekedda
A Cottage was built near Timbuktu
While attacking in German territory near Stuttgart, Frigate defeats (7.04/8): German Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.6%)
A Fishing Boats near Cimmerian was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
A Fishing Boats near Giza was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
Frigate promoted: Combat I
Frigate promoted: Drill I
Beshbalik grows: 12
Tekedda grows: 4
Judaism has spread: Tekedda

IBT:

Turn 470/660 (1860 AD) [28-Feb-2007 20:46:20]
While attacking in German territory at Stuttgart, Frigate defeats (5.12/8): German Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.6%)
A Farm was built near Djenne
A Farm was built near Tadmekka
A Fishing Boats near Kolhapur was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
Frigate promoted: Combat I
Frigate promoted: Drill I
New Sarai begins: Market (18 turns)
Timbuktu begins: Wall Street (20 turns)
New Sarai grows: 8
New Sarai finishes: Bank
Wadan grows: 3
Wadan finishes: Granary

IBT:

Turn 471/660 (1861 AD) [28-Feb-2007 20:55:06]
Wadan begins: Mint (17 turns)
A Fishing Boats was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
Awlil begins: Mint (20 turns)
A Lumbermill was built near Karakorum
Tech learned: Democracy
Timbuktu finishes: Frigate
Walata grows: 11
Turfan grows: 12
Turfan finishes: Library
Alemanni grows: 6

IBT:

Turn 472/660 (1862 AD) [28-Feb-2007 20:59:13]
Research begun: Electricity (4 Turns)
Turfan begins: Market (21 turns)
A Farm was built near Tadmekka
A Fishing Boats near Antium was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
A Fishing Boats near Hyderabad was destroyed by Malinese Frigate
Frigate promoted: Combat I
Frigate promoted: Drill I
Awdaghost grows: 6

IBT:

Turn 473/660 (1863 AD) [28-Feb-2007 21:07:17]
A Mine was built near Djenne
A Mine was built near New Sarai
Old Sarai begins: Market (33 turns)
Turfan begins: Grocer (38 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Courthouse (60 turns)
Awdaghost begins: Grocer (75 turns)
Kumbi Saleh grows: 13
Gao finishes: Grocer
Old Sarai finishes: Harbor
Turfan finishes: Market
Awdaghost finishes: Mint
Alemanni finishes: Work Boat
Tekedda finishes: Granary

IBT:

Turn 474/660 (1864 AD) [28-Feb-2007 21:17:59]
Gao begins: Observatory (8 turns)
Tekedda begins: Mint (13 turns)
While attacking just off shore near Jaipur, Frigate defeats (6.88/8): Indian Galleon (Prob Victory: 99.3%)
A Fishing Boats was built near Alemanni
Karakorum finishes: Forbidden Palace
Niani grows: 12
Niani finishes: Bank

IBT:
Civics Change: Gandhi(India) from 'Decentralization' to 'Mercantilism'

Turn 475/660 (1865 AD) [28-Feb-2007 21:26:19]
Karakorum begins: The Statue of Liberty (38 turns)
Niani begins: Market (8 turns)
A Farm was built near Niani
While attacking just off shore near Gaziantep, Frigate defeats (5.92/8): German Caravel (Prob Victory: 99.7%)


Next player: happy whipping while we can :D

The save
 
Random roster :
GreyFox
Tatran
The Sansman

Played :
negyvenketto

Skipped :
Immaculate
 
Played 5 turns, and had to stop for team decision.

But first, one gripe. Hope people don't mind my grumpiness, I just hope we could all improve by learning from each others mistakes.

There is absolutely no sense of city specialization. Why Wall Street in the capitol? It has no cottages, no shrines, no anything to warrant a WS except for the extra 8 commerce due to palace. In fact, a WS is wasted hammers anywhere in our empire, except maybe Paris.

Why are we building barracks and rifleman in Ningshia when it has only a pitiful 3 hammers?

A few cities has specialist that is far from desired, and most of our cities have everything: Mint, Libabry, Market, Barracks. :confused:

Anyway, made a few changes, adjusted trades to get all the gold I can from Toku and HC.

5 turns later, the fateful spring day of 1870, here is a decision the team must make as a whole:

tnt1-AD1870-toku-PA.jpg


I am inclined to take it, as that would seal our victory, whichever path we choose. However, I don't know what that would mean to our permanent peace/war status. Since Toku is at PP or PW with some Civ in which we are at the opposite state.

For example, consider HC ~ he is our friend, but at PW with Toku:

tnt1-AD1870-toku-relations.jpg


What do people think abt this twist in events?

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I knew this moment would come. ;)
The consequenses are, we declare on Tokugawa's enemies and he declares
war on our enemies. This probably means we won't have any friends left. :(
We don't have much choice, if we don't ally he will ally with someone else
and maybe then we are at war with Japan too.
 
Sorry on WS, I just checked the gpt output not the raw commerce :blush:
Toku can ally with Rome if not with us and we could only ally with HC then.
I would prefer Toku over HC.
 
Indeed, the PA results in us declaring on HC and Stalin, while Toku declared on Augutus. The only other civ that is not at war with us is Hannibal.

I arranged the following trade after alliance:

tnt1-AD1870-toku-trade.jpg


Toku has a very high beaker output. For example, when I click on Combustion, it says 10 turns. When I ask toku to research that as well, it immediately fall to a surprising 1 turn. :eek: :eek:

I got us assembly line and artillery this way as well, and then Toku go for industrialism, while I decided to go for Rocketry. Both will be done in 10 turns.

With the research power of Toku, space will be faster than conquest or domination. But of-course the warpath is more fun. So, up to you guys to decide which way to go: domination (we have a combine 30&#37; land, I think) or space.

We got a scientists, suggest hanging on to him for a golden age.

tnt1-AD1874-scientists.jpg


One funny thing after PA is this message:

tnt1-AD1871-SoL.jpg


WTH? I click on SoL again ... :lol:

I think Toku is also building the SoL prior to PA, so we both receive the same message I think. Since the human player's turn always come first, I think we get to continue the SoL and Toku did not.

I have tried to build more frigates (they auto-upgrade to destroyers when oil got connected), and also some machine guns and infantries in case some did manage to land. But I think we should focus on naval builds and sink any attempt at landing before that happens.

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