TOMO2 - Semi-OCC
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Tomoyo
Fate
Yes. How many shields do we have invested in the GL and when will we get it? If it's more than 20 turns, I think we should try building up military, but it's probably safer to keep on the Library.
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
The Glib is why I don't have the warm fuzzies. IIRC, we can get it in 20 or less. That's a lot of builds, but it is also lots of future denial of tech for the AI. my concern about invading someone is that our magic fire boats are spread out and it will take a while to consolidate them.
@ tomoyo - I've got a really warped sense of humor and posting but I've also got some previous history with everyone but you. I've been hauling on the leash to avoid offense. Are you easily offended? If not, I'll take off the gloves and tell you just how stupid I truly am
@ tomoyo - I've got a really warped sense of humor and posting but I've also got some previous history with everyone but you. I've been hauling on the leash to avoid offense. Are you easily offended? If not, I'll take off the gloves and tell you just how stupid I truly am
Tomoyo
Fate
It depends. If you want to take 10, then take 10. If you want to take 15, then take 15. You can decide whether to go for the Library or not, but if we can get something worthwhile without waste on the Library shields, I would build that.
I would like to see a Space Race victory on this, not a culture one, so we should go towards that, but if the team wants otherwise, I'll go with the flow.
EDIT: X-posted with AK. No I'm not easily offended, or at least I don't think I am...
I would like to see a Space Race victory on this, not a culture one, so we should go towards that, but if the team wants otherwise, I'll go with the flow.
EDIT: X-posted with AK. No I'm not easily offended, or at least I don't think I am...
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
@ Tomoyo - okay gloves are off, you get uncensored idiocy.
Like I said, wasn't doing Glib for culture, but for denial. SS is fine. If we're going to war we need to consolidate the fleet and get some archers up. Pegasus Island will be a nice source of ponies in the future but what forces are we going to war with if we do it in the short term?
@ whomp - see above. Constantinople could do a normal lib, but saw that as a waste given our tech lead and the possibility for Glib denial. You could pump archers but the fleet is dipersed. Appears I'm talking in circles or speaking in tongues (Bede will translate and correct obvious idiocies) so I'll shut up for at least 2 minutes.
Like I said, wasn't doing Glib for culture, but for denial. SS is fine. If we're going to war we need to consolidate the fleet and get some archers up. Pegasus Island will be a nice source of ponies in the future but what forces are we going to war with if we do it in the short term?
@ whomp - see above. Constantinople could do a normal lib, but saw that as a waste given our tech lead and the possibility for Glib denial. You could pump archers but the fleet is dipersed. Appears I'm talking in circles or speaking in tongues (Bede will translate and correct obvious idiocies) so I'll shut up for at least 2 minutes.
Too many lost sheilds for Glib. Set science to 0%
1. 630 zzz
2. 610 New town Tamuin on Pegasus.
IBT Bismarck establishes an embassy. Thanks Biz
3.590 trade for dyes with Gil for 4gpt and 16g He is gracious. Try to get republic. Nothing.
4. 570 zzz
IBT 3 Aztec warriors drop off near Kish
5. 550 Casesarea worker-->harbor
IBT See Kish archer kill Aztec warrior
6. 530 Redline dromon runs from barb galley. That sounds weird. Trade Aztecs philo for wines and 96g. Worthless tech. Move lux down to 10%
IBT Aztec galleys everywhere
7. 510 See horse island west of Nuremburg. Germans have iron to trade. Wait.
IBT Sums start Great Wall
8. 490 Sums up 3 now.
9. 470 zzzg.
10. 450 worker finishes road to horses
IBT Sums start GLib. How are the getting all these techs.
11. 430 Sell Lit to Iroq. 158g. No one has g... Trade math for spices and 6g
12. 410 zzz
13. 390 zzz
IBT Bismarck wants C note. Nope. Declares. They start GLib
14. 370 WH kicks in. Lux to 0%.
IBT Aztecs start GLib
15. 350 zzz
IBT Sums start Sun Tzu. See a german galley (3 kliks north of where our healthy dromon stopped)
16. 330 Not sure how I screwed up but I went 16 and of course Caesarea goes into disorder. Must not of noticed on mapstat
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Turn into a taxpayer or lux would go to 50%.
==========Summary==========
GLib done in 1. I probably could've traded some techs for cash but waited too long. There's a german galley north of our healthy dromon. Time to crush. Where is Waldo the Portugese? There's a big black fog blob and I say he's there. Be back with a pic. Ok I'm tired and an idiot. Pic on next page.
1. 630 zzz
2. 610 New town Tamuin on Pegasus.
IBT Bismarck establishes an embassy. Thanks Biz
3.590 trade for dyes with Gil for 4gpt and 16g He is gracious. Try to get republic. Nothing.
4. 570 zzz
IBT 3 Aztec warriors drop off near Kish
5. 550 Casesarea worker-->harbor
IBT See Kish archer kill Aztec warrior
6. 530 Redline dromon runs from barb galley. That sounds weird. Trade Aztecs philo for wines and 96g. Worthless tech. Move lux down to 10%
IBT Aztec galleys everywhere
7. 510 See horse island west of Nuremburg. Germans have iron to trade. Wait.
IBT Sums start Great Wall
8. 490 Sums up 3 now.
9. 470 zzzg.
10. 450 worker finishes road to horses
IBT Sums start GLib. How are the getting all these techs.
11. 430 Sell Lit to Iroq. 158g. No one has g... Trade math for spices and 6g
12. 410 zzz
13. 390 zzz
IBT Bismarck wants C note. Nope. Declares. They start GLib
14. 370 WH kicks in. Lux to 0%.
IBT Aztecs start GLib
15. 350 zzz
IBT Sums start Sun Tzu. See a german galley (3 kliks north of where our healthy dromon stopped)
16. 330 Not sure how I screwed up but I went 16 and of course Caesarea goes into disorder. Must not of noticed on mapstat
. Turn into a taxpayer or lux would go to 50%.
==========Summary==========
GLib done in 1. I probably could've traded some techs for cash but waited too long. There's a german galley north of our healthy dromon. Time to crush. Where is Waldo the Portugese? There's a big black fog blob and I say he's there. Be back with a pic. Ok I'm tired and an idiot. Pic on next page.
Tomoyo
Fate
Tomoyo <-- In the hole
Admiral Kutzov <-- Trapped us with the GL
Whomp <-- Just played
Bede <-- UP!
Cuivienen <-- On deck
Admiral Kutzov <-- Trapped us with the GL
Whomp <-- Just played
Bede <-- UP!
Cuivienen <-- On deck
Admiral Kutzov
Idiot Emeritus
Just to make things interesting
I probably should be banned from games until the MA since I have that idiot gene...Not quite sure why we haven't bought some technology from Sumeria, at least to get us closer to the Middle Ages. We have a ton of cash and no real way to spend it for a while. So the first thing I do is make this deal:
I know the conventional wisdom says not to spend on technology when the Great Library is coming on-line but I look at the other nations in the game and realize that they aren't going anywhere fast. The conventional wisdom applies when you are really behind, but we are not behind, just behind-hand as we should have been buying and or researching sooner.
We need the commercial boost from a market in Constaninople to pay for our soon to be growing military and to pay our researchers.
We can't buy Construction....
Next item on my list to wonder about, is, why are we at war with the Germans, presumably to slow down their growth, so why aren't we using our allies in Sumeria to fight them for us? They can reach the German island across coastal squares. So I renew the Right of Passage at the same price of 5gpt and throw in an alliance against the Germans for a pot o' gold..
The Great Library finishes and Contstantinople starts a Wal-Mart.
And our Golden Age begins.
In 290 we learn Monarchy from the Sumerians and Chinese.
And in 250 we meet the Portugese south of the Iroquois/Celt home island. Henry is poor but not far behind technically. And open an embassy...
In 230 the Iroquois learn Construction and get a huge infusion of cash from somewhere so I relieve them of both:
We enter the Middle Ages and draw Montheism as our free tech which is worth bupkus in our trade opportunties with Gil.
The Marketplace finishes in Constantinople and it is worth 18gpt in our Golden Age plus another 6gpt in the reduction of luxury tax.
The Iroquois are busy settling the Isle of Pegasus as are the Aztecs.
In 190 Sumer and Aztecs sign a Peace Treaty. And our Dyes deal with Sumer expires. It costs +1gpt (to 5) to renew.
In 170-150 not much happens. Build a horse in Constantinople but forgot the barracks first, he loads onto a boat and heads for Adrianople where the Iro have a scouting swordsman.
I know the conventional wisdom says not to spend on technology when the Great Library is coming on-line but I look at the other nations in the game and realize that they aren't going anywhere fast. The conventional wisdom applies when you are really behind, but we are not behind, just behind-hand as we should have been buying and or researching sooner.
We need the commercial boost from a market in Constaninople to pay for our soon to be growing military and to pay our researchers.
We can't buy Construction....
Next item on my list to wonder about, is, why are we at war with the Germans, presumably to slow down their growth, so why aren't we using our allies in Sumeria to fight them for us? They can reach the German island across coastal squares. So I renew the Right of Passage at the same price of 5gpt and throw in an alliance against the Germans for a pot o' gold..
The Great Library finishes and Contstantinople starts a Wal-Mart.
And our Golden Age begins.
In 290 we learn Monarchy from the Sumerians and Chinese.
And in 250 we meet the Portugese south of the Iroquois/Celt home island. Henry is poor but not far behind technically. And open an embassy...
In 230 the Iroquois learn Construction and get a huge infusion of cash from somewhere so I relieve them of both:
We enter the Middle Ages and draw Montheism as our free tech which is worth bupkus in our trade opportunties with Gil.
The Marketplace finishes in Constantinople and it is worth 18gpt in our Golden Age plus another 6gpt in the reduction of luxury tax.
The Iroquois are busy settling the Isle of Pegasus as are the Aztecs.
In 190 Sumer and Aztecs sign a Peace Treaty. And our Dyes deal with Sumer expires. It costs +1gpt (to 5) to renew.
In 170-150 not much happens. Build a horse in Constantinople but forgot the barracks first, he loads onto a boat and heads for Adrianople where the Iro have a scouting swordsman.
Cmdr T. Hope you don't mind me throwing out the roster since Cuivienen may not be aware...
Cuivienen<-- UP!
Tomoyo <-- On deck and ready to take one "yahd".
Admiral Kutzov--well you know the story.
Whomp--> getting the feeling all 4 SG's will hit him at the same time!
Bede--focusing on Joannie and the western front I presume!
Cuivienen<-- UP!
Tomoyo <-- On deck and ready to take one "yahd".
Admiral Kutzov--well you know the story.
Whomp--> getting the feeling all 4 SG's will hit him at the same time!
Bede--focusing on Joannie and the western front I presume!
Tomoyo
Fate
One thing: I may be a Sox fan, but I talk more like a New Yawker. ("yawd")
Tomoyo
Fate
Is it the home opener (or in that series) or just one of the other many games to be played between those two teams? (Great for you!)
Y'know, something about you reminds me of scoutsout and SesnOfWthr... but mostly scoutsout...
Can't put my finger on it, though.
Y'know, something about you reminds me of scoutsout and SesnOfWthr... but mostly scoutsout...
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