I got it. I have finished my honey do's and am ready and waiting for some battle. I see no reason not to take Toku out of his misery. I may have renewed peace negotiations with Cathy in 5 so I'll check in before that. We have access to the Mil. Acad. but I think a leader will be used for a cav army. Ok check back in 5.
Training game emphasizing trading - Emperor
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Pre flight--MM around the capital. Earning 251gpt. Greece in anarchy. Commies!! Madrid is starving.
IBT Dutch and Spain make peace. Our iron near Leptis Minor exhausts.
1. 1255 AD William will talk. Make peace with ROP. Japanese have what we want. 2 ivory/2 coal/ 1 iron. There'd be no WW as it would start from zero. Declare on Toku. Get Wang involved since he already is going at it with Toku. We get 67g 5gpt and maps. Go after Tomoyama. Army kills pike, 1st cav backs off, 2nd kills pike, 3rd redlines but we raze. Other cavs spy Toku's caravel. Lose a reg caravel and eliminate it with vet. See galley on the way. Lose reg galley and sink their's with vet caravel. Hurry settler in Rusaddir for 96.
IBT Wang and Toku have peace. Thanks for the free 67 Wang. Lose MI to samurai. o.
2. 1260 AD We Love the General everywhere. Thanks. Go back to Wang and offer ROP. He gives 50g and 4gpt and more maps. All but Midway (disorder) are happy faces. Turn lux to 0%. 318gpt now. Rails ready for new town. Name it Corner Market. Greeks are loaded 10000g! Cannons fire. Samurai and pike redlined. Elite MI...rimming good takes samurai. 5 MI land on Japanese iron. Take pike and 2 archers headed to Tokyo. We control the mountains. Killing field is established.
IBT Japanese galley shows on our other continent.
3. 1265 AD Knight army redlines vs samurai but gets and a new elite. Lose 1st cav to pike, 2nd and 3rd redline but win and we have Tokyo. We rail all the way in. 3 MI lost taking Kagoshimo but we have more iron. Lose 2 cavs at Nara to samurai but take Nara. Can trade Nationalism to Wang for 34gpt and 32g. Not yet. Izzie offers silks for 50gpt and ivory. Not yet. We're pretty happy thanks although we incurred some hits this round but gained 3 cities.
IBT Starvation at Tokyo and Nara. Anc. Cav and archer land on other continent.
4. 1270 AD buchets hit 5 in a row redline anc cav. vet MI promotes vs archer and elite MI takes out Anc Cav.
Manuever for naval assualt to Japan island. Wang same trade.
IBT Another anc cav.
5. 1275 AD Buchets are hot 4 in a row. Elite MI finishes. Would like a leader before Toku is through. We have huge flip risk everywhere. No one in these cities. Greeks are commie. Send army to Nagoya's door. Rails all the way.
IBT Russian Frig near our caravel stack. Izzie peace for 20 more. Heh we find more iron near Sulcis.
6. 1280 AD Wipe out 2 pikes w. no damage to army Nagoya falls. Land at Hakodata. 3 caravels get a new look at New Theveste. New Hadrumertum? founded
IBT zzz
7. 1285 AD take Hakodate. Take Nagasaki and vet cav promotes. Carthage needs IRS. Getting some WW.
IBT wines for incense and 40gpt up...give add'l ivory and 42gpt w/ ROP. Izzie upgraded to annoyed.
8. 1290 AD Land at Shimonoseki. Reg spear...
IBT William frigate and caravel go by Cathy's frigate. Japanese send an envoy. Sorry Togu.
9. 1295 AD Raze Shinonoseki (flip risk) and bring in settler. Move lux to 10% as Cathy's furs are due.
IBT zzz
10. 1300 AD Take Sapporo spears w/redlined cav. Take Izumo and get 1g!! Check Toku's cities and there is a remote one by Dutch. Move lux to 20% but there are options in my summary.
============Summary============
We can trade with Cathy for furs with a incense/ivory/ROP and 38gpt. It will net 21 gpt if we move the lux down to 10% and we should be able to move to 0% after Toku island is taken so it may not be necessary yet. 2nd we can get 105g 55gpt and 3 workers for Nationalism from Wang. He is on his heels vs Alexander and it may help prolong the war so it may be worthwhile for that reason. I've been waiting to see if they can come up with a tech instead. There was 0 change in techs my turn possibly due to Alexander's anarchy. We are 48% of world population so we are getting close. We are almost 100% railed and have a pile of jingo.
We need to think of our next target. We could renegotitate with Cathy and if she doesn't succumb we take her out. Problem is she has cossacks and would get her GA. I wasn't sure if the irrigated lawns should become mines so we have a few to look at.
Please rename the next city Nijmegen in honor of Rik. Want your own island Rik?
Here are some pics and the save.
IBT Dutch and Spain make peace. Our iron near Leptis Minor exhausts.
1. 1255 AD William will talk. Make peace with ROP. Japanese have what we want. 2 ivory/2 coal/ 1 iron. There'd be no WW as it would start from zero. Declare on Toku. Get Wang involved since he already is going at it with Toku. We get 67g 5gpt and maps. Go after Tomoyama. Army kills pike, 1st cav backs off, 2nd kills pike, 3rd redlines but we raze. Other cavs spy Toku's caravel. Lose a reg caravel and eliminate it with vet. See galley on the way. Lose reg galley and sink their's with vet caravel. Hurry settler in Rusaddir for 96.
IBT Wang and Toku have peace. Thanks for the free 67 Wang. Lose MI to samurai. o.
2. 1260 AD We Love the General everywhere. Thanks. Go back to Wang and offer ROP. He gives 50g and 4gpt and more maps. All but Midway (disorder) are happy faces. Turn lux to 0%. 318gpt now. Rails ready for new town. Name it Corner Market. Greeks are loaded 10000g! Cannons fire. Samurai and pike redlined. Elite MI...rimming good takes samurai. 5 MI land on Japanese iron. Take pike and 2 archers headed to Tokyo. We control the mountains. Killing field is established.
IBT Japanese galley shows on our other continent.
3. 1265 AD Knight army redlines vs samurai but gets and a new elite. Lose 1st cav to pike, 2nd and 3rd redline but win and we have Tokyo. We rail all the way in. 3 MI lost taking Kagoshimo but we have more iron. Lose 2 cavs at Nara to samurai but take Nara. Can trade Nationalism to Wang for 34gpt and 32g. Not yet. Izzie offers silks for 50gpt and ivory. Not yet. We're pretty happy thanks although we incurred some hits this round but gained 3 cities.
IBT Starvation at Tokyo and Nara. Anc. Cav and archer land on other continent.
4. 1270 AD buchets hit 5 in a row redline anc cav. vet MI promotes vs archer and elite MI takes out Anc Cav.
Manuever for naval assualt to Japan island. Wang same trade.
IBT Another anc cav.
5. 1275 AD Buchets are hot 4 in a row. Elite MI finishes. Would like a leader before Toku is through. We have huge flip risk everywhere. No one in these cities. Greeks are commie. Send army to Nagoya's door. Rails all the way.
IBT Russian Frig near our caravel stack. Izzie peace for 20 more. Heh we find more iron near Sulcis.
6. 1280 AD Wipe out 2 pikes w. no damage to army Nagoya falls. Land at Hakodata. 3 caravels get a new look at New Theveste. New Hadrumertum? founded
IBT zzz
7. 1285 AD take Hakodate. Take Nagasaki and vet cav promotes. Carthage needs IRS. Getting some WW.
IBT wines for incense and 40gpt up...give add'l ivory and 42gpt w/ ROP. Izzie upgraded to annoyed.
8. 1290 AD Land at Shimonoseki. Reg spear...
IBT William frigate and caravel go by Cathy's frigate. Japanese send an envoy. Sorry Togu.
9. 1295 AD Raze Shinonoseki (flip risk) and bring in settler. Move lux to 10% as Cathy's furs are due.
IBT zzz
10. 1300 AD Take Sapporo spears w/redlined cav. Take Izumo and get 1g!! Check Toku's cities and there is a remote one by Dutch. Move lux to 20% but there are options in my summary.
============Summary============
We can trade with Cathy for furs with a incense/ivory/ROP and 38gpt. It will net 21 gpt if we move the lux down to 10% and we should be able to move to 0% after Toku island is taken so it may not be necessary yet. 2nd we can get 105g 55gpt and 3 workers for Nationalism from Wang. He is on his heels vs Alexander and it may help prolong the war so it may be worthwhile for that reason. I've been waiting to see if they can come up with a tech instead. There was 0 change in techs my turn possibly due to Alexander's anarchy. We are 48% of world population so we are getting close. We are almost 100% railed and have a pile of jingo.
We need to think of our next target. We could renegotitate with Cathy and if she doesn't succumb we take her out. Problem is she has cossacks and would get her GA. I wasn't sure if the irrigated lawns should become mines so we have a few to look at.
Please rename the next city Nijmegen in honor of Rik. Want your own island Rik?
Here are some pics and the save.
plarq
Crazy forever
Got it,how's the techs?
plarq
Crazy forever
1300AD,Carthage:
Fix some riots this turn.I think Communism will work but I don't wanna
buy Greek monopoly,and I don't want to feed his fat treasury.
IBT:Greeks take Seoul with mass landing.
1305AD:
Take Ise with no loss.Since Spain takes Communism and Greek learns
Industrialization,I wanna try a steal,but seeing Greek troops in
ex-Korea,I give up.
IBT:Russia sneak attacked us and take Nagasaki with 32g!Greedy Bastard
Cathy.
1310AD
unno where the WW is coming from,since we can't kill Japan,I'd
sign peace with Toku.Retake Japanese city from Cathy.
IBT:Russians kill a Galleon.
1315AD:Greeks and Spain learned Fascism.Lose 3 cavs to kill 2 rifles in
Orenburg,city holds.
IBT:Mass Russian boats sail in our coast,Cathy starts US.
1320ADutch learned Commie.Build New Rusaddir in SE of Smolensk.
IBT:No loss,kill 1 Cossack,Midway eats cannonballs.
1325AD:Spain learned Fascism.Fight Russians,kill more than loss.
IBT:Cossack kill my Rifle.I hope that Cathy have had her GA with MoM or
Glib.
1330AD:Cannon goes 1/11 in Orenburg.Fighting is tough,I'd rather do a
2fer1,and I do it this way:Iron and 1850g to Dutch for Commie,Coal and
1980g to Spain for Industry,Industry to Dutch,get gold back.
IBT:Finish some Police Station in old core.Building more Factories in
new core,Spain starts in US.Cathy lands a Cossack in West Nippon Island.
1335AD:Finish the Cossack,Cannons go 3/11 in Orenburg.Kill 3 Rifles and
1 Cossack,lose 5 cavs,what a bad RNG event.Get 136g from city
rumbles.Build New Sulcis to claim Vladivostok's lands and pull it into
Cavalry's attack range,after that I capture Vladivostok with no loss,get
93g.That opened Cathy's mouth.She's willing to give 260g for peace.I
wait.
IBT:RNG doesn't want to pay for my patience,Greek signed MA against
us.Loss of Dyes makes big riot in former capital Carthage,roll to stop
chain reactions.
1340AD:Hard time,Our cities are weak vs. Greek troops.Gift NW city to
Japan,and still gonna lose New Cirta.
IBT:We lose New Cirta.
1345AD:Lux up to 40%,due to level 2 WW.Group up troops and transports.
IBT:Our Cavs dying in Greek front,Vladivostok deposes.
1350AD:Capture Vladivostok back,this time only 6g.I paid Cathy 13gpt for peace.Fortified workers around Carthage and Utica,war with Alex is
ongoing...
Fix some riots this turn.I think Communism will work but I don't wanna
buy Greek monopoly,and I don't want to feed his fat treasury.
IBT:Greeks take Seoul with mass landing.
1305AD:
Take Ise with no loss.Since Spain takes Communism and Greek learns
Industrialization,I wanna try a steal,but seeing Greek troops in
ex-Korea,I give up.
IBT:Russia sneak attacked us and take Nagasaki with 32g!Greedy Bastard
Cathy.
1310AD
unno where the WW is coming from,since we can't kill Japan,I'd sign peace with Toku.Retake Japanese city from Cathy.
IBT:Russians kill a Galleon.
1315AD:Greeks and Spain learned Fascism.Lose 3 cavs to kill 2 rifles in
Orenburg,city holds.
IBT:Mass Russian boats sail in our coast,Cathy starts US.
1320AD
utch learned Commie.Build New Rusaddir in SE of Smolensk.IBT:No loss,kill 1 Cossack,Midway eats cannonballs.
1325AD:Spain learned Fascism.Fight Russians,kill more than loss.
IBT:Cossack kill my Rifle.I hope that Cathy have had her GA with MoM or
Glib.
1330AD:Cannon goes 1/11 in Orenburg.Fighting is tough,I'd rather do a
2fer1,and I do it this way:Iron and 1850g to Dutch for Commie,Coal and
1980g to Spain for Industry,Industry to Dutch,get gold back.
IBT:Finish some Police Station in old core.Building more Factories in
new core,Spain starts in US.Cathy lands a Cossack in West Nippon Island.
1335AD:Finish the Cossack,Cannons go 3/11 in Orenburg.Kill 3 Rifles and
1 Cossack,lose 5 cavs,what a bad RNG event.Get 136g from city
rumbles.Build New Sulcis to claim Vladivostok's lands and pull it into
Cavalry's attack range,after that I capture Vladivostok with no loss,get
93g.That opened Cathy's mouth.She's willing to give 260g for peace.I
wait.
IBT:RNG doesn't want to pay for my patience,Greek signed MA against
us.Loss of Dyes makes big riot in former capital Carthage,roll to stop
chain reactions.
1340AD:Hard time,Our cities are weak vs. Greek troops.Gift NW city to
Japan,and still gonna lose New Cirta.
IBT:We lose New Cirta.
1345AD:Lux up to 40%,due to level 2 WW.Group up troops and transports.
IBT:Our Cavs dying in Greek front,Vladivostok deposes.
1350AD:Capture Vladivostok back,this time only 6g.I paid Cathy 13gpt for peace.Fortified workers around Carthage and Utica,war with Alex is
ongoing...
plarq
Crazy forever
Picture is for Rik to exam my trade.
plarq
Crazy forever
Regime change to commies?Corruption will be way better,but commerce will be down.We're losing our front against Greece.(1 city gift and 1 city fallen,2 city standing and reinforcement is arriving.)But we need to teach Alex a lesson,he's running away,again.
)I agree we need Communism fast. It will make our old capitol area which is large much more productive. I would suggest we do it now. Is it smart to create just enough food for a city and turn the rest into tax collectors? IE 24 food for a pop 12 city.
If Alexander takes back his continent it would have nothing to do with our anarchy. It would be because we couldn't get there with existing troops fast enough. Can we entice William, Cahty and Izzie into the mix? We need to maintain our beachhead with defense and take out the redliners with our offensive elites. A leader would be gigantic against Alexander.
We need Cathy's furs.
If Alexander takes back his continent it would have nothing to do with our anarchy. It would be because we couldn't get there with existing troops fast enough. Can we entice William, Cahty and Izzie into the mix? We need to maintain our beachhead with defense and take out the redliners with our offensive elites. A leader would be gigantic against Alexander.
We need Cathy's furs.
Plarq:
From the picture I see it is 1325 AD. Unfortunately I can't examine a trade from a picture. Have you got the 1325 AD save (perhaps in your autosave-folder) ?
From the picture I see it is 1325 AD. Unfortunately I can't examine a trade from a picture. Have you got the 1325 AD save (perhaps in your autosave-folder) ?
Whomp said:
I agree that Communism is the way at this stage.
1) No war weariness
2) Better economic performance over-all, both in terms of income and shields.
3) Veteran spies once we build the IA: good for tech theft.
@whomp, in totally corrupt towns and wasteful (90%) it definitely makes sense to grow just enough food to feed the population then make everybody tax collectors. It also makes sense to use Policemen in towns where corruption and waste are less significant as they reduce both corruption and waste.
@ Bede-Let me clarify. When we go into anarchy is there a benefit to keeping enough citizens online to feed our people and turn the rest into taxmen?
Just to help with the lineup...
dl123654 -up
peacemonger- on deck
oopsy - in the hole
Bede
whomp
plarq
Just to help with the lineup...
dl123654 -up
peacemonger- on deck
oopsy - in the hole
Bede
whomp
plarq
plarq
Crazy forever
Sorry Rik,autosave lost,my trade cannot be examed...
oopsy poopsy
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i'm so sorry guys. after the deluge of work i inevitably ended up with the flu and was basically on my back for 5 days. this of course led to another deluge of work and things are piling up all the time behind it. ive also got trips out of town starting next week so i'm gonna have to be on auto-skip for awhile. you can totally replace me and when i'm able to play i'll check back and see if you have room for me. again sorry, this wasn't my idea of how this should go either. i'll lurk as much as i can and post ideas or comments.
Carthege Communism and Greek War (no trading)
Complants:
Have the workers do something even if it is clearing the polution off of volcanos, sitting around is not a good use of their time.
Make the switch to communism first turn, 7 turns, still making the same amount of money except now all cities are productive and we have the
for those foreign cities .
ROP ended with Korea, 2 turns later they are gone.
Razed 2 Greek cities, a old Korean one that was bothering me and a size 10 city which was replaced, provides as a good rally point for capturing Smith or razing their capital.
Have the knight army and a new cav army at the rally point, rdy to attack either city.
We have Greece running now I believe our goals should be to take Smith, raze their capital and raze and take their dyes, then start thinking about peace.
Techs are scatered around:
Greece has Fascism,Electricity,Coperation, will give 500 for peace
Russia has the same
Spain is missing Coperation
Dutch have the same techs as us
Japan is well ... still where they were
.
Complants:
Have the workers do something even if it is clearing the polution off of volcanos, sitting around is not a good use of their time.
Make the switch to communism first turn, 7 turns, still making the same amount of money except now all cities are productive and we have the
for those foreign cities .ROP ended with Korea, 2 turns later they are gone.
Razed 2 Greek cities, a old Korean one that was bothering me and a size 10 city which was replaced, provides as a good rally point for capturing Smith or razing their capital.
Have the knight army and a new cav army at the rally point, rdy to attack either city.
We have Greece running now I believe our goals should be to take Smith, raze their capital and raze and take their dyes, then start thinking about peace.
Techs are scatered around:
Greece has Fascism,Electricity,Coperation, will give 500 for peace
Russia has the same
Spain is missing Coperation
Dutch have the same techs as us
Japan is well ... still where they were
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