OneFastWarrior
Asthma Hound Chihuahua
10 BC we have a horsemen 2 turns from being able to disconnect Iron. Assuming he does not die on the way there. I will be declaring war at the end of 10BC
TSK 01 - Eastern Uproar
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Tsukemono5
American Pickle
I'd have preferred we declare war BEFORE making hostile moves, but it's ok .
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OneFastWarrior
Asthma Hound Chihuahua
I was not in there territory, just between there borders and ours
OneFastWarrior
Asthma Hound Chihuahua
okay, here ya go.
1. 110 BC rush a temple in Mecca, and tell China to get out of our land!!
2. 90BC Mecca completes Temple. I inadvertantly left our galley in a sea square and sank it
(Honest I didn't mean to take the boat out so far
3. 70BC Kagoshima completes Harbor, starts Galley. The people love us add-ons to our Palace
kill spearman near seoul and archer outside Hyangson. Kill 2 spears in Hyangson.
4. 50BC India tells us to get out,.. we do then we tell them to get out of our Ocean(on our shores
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5. 30 BC Korea wants to talk,.. and What do I tell them.... Thats Right..... GET BENT!!
We have learned Polytheism and The Republic. I leave our government in Despotism. Being as that we are warmongering
Istanbul has completed the Great Wall.
6. 10BC Galley done in Kagoshima. China is annoyed, I Demand Shanghai, Now they are Furious. We declare war. We get a MA with Egypt for Spices, WM and 140Gold.
7. 10AD India and Egypt have a MA against China.
8. 30AD Troops moving.. yada, yada, yada.
9. 50AD Lose Sword, take Beijing!! Iron Disconnected.
10.70 AD as I was exiting I noticed Otto has troops near Seoul. Not friendly. I think we are about to be fighting on 2 fronts
The game
1. 110 BC rush a temple in Mecca, and tell China to get out of our land!!
2. 90BC Mecca completes Temple. I inadvertantly left our galley in a sea square and sank it
(Honest I didn't mean to take the boat out so far 3. 70BC Kagoshima completes Harbor, starts Galley. The people love us add-ons to our Palace
kill spearman near seoul and archer outside Hyangson. Kill 2 spears in Hyangson.4. 50BC India tells us to get out,.. we do then we tell them to get out of our Ocean(on our shores
)5. 30 BC Korea wants to talk,.. and What do I tell them.... Thats Right..... GET BENT!!
We have learned Polytheism and The Republic. I leave our government in Despotism. Being as that we are warmongering
Istanbul has completed the Great Wall.
6. 10BC Galley done in Kagoshima. China is annoyed, I Demand Shanghai, Now they are Furious. We declare war. We get a MA with Egypt for Spices, WM and 140Gold.
7. 10AD India and Egypt have a MA against China.
8. 30AD Troops moving.. yada, yada, yada.
9. 50AD Lose Sword, take Beijing!! Iron Disconnected.
10.70 AD as I was exiting I noticed Otto has troops near Seoul. Not friendly. I think we are about to be fighting on 2 fronts
The game
Rubberjello
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Back from the Hospital here...but probably no good to anyone for the next 24 hours or so - the point of fact being...I can't even figure out whose turn it is on this game right now!
I apologize if my absence caused a long delay. I talked my wife through the posting process here over the phone. The hospital refused to let me keep my laptop!
(like they wanted me to concentrate on getting well or something like that! 
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What a good sport she was to do that for me!
Anyways, I'm back and should be up to 90% capacity soon here.
(And yes...the "Do it with Jello" in her post was quite....errrr..."ironic"!!!)
I apologize if my absence caused a long delay. I talked my wife through the posting process here over the phone. The hospital refused to let me keep my laptop!
(like they wanted me to concentrate on getting well or something like that! )What a good sport she was to do that for me!
Anyways, I'm back and should be up to 90% capacity soon here.
(And yes...the "Do it with Jello" in her post was quite....errrr..."ironic"!!!)
OneFastWarrior
Asthma Hound Chihuahua
Hey Rubberjello, glad to have ya back
Tsukemono5 is up right now.
I forgot in my notes to say that we also took Canton. So, China only has 4 cities left. And also Otto has 1 sword and 3 archers by seoul. I did not totally finish the 70AD turn as I had to leave. All that was left was the to hit space bar and watch the moves. I am pretty sure otto is going to attack(why else would he be here) India and Egypt are both polite with us now.
Go take em down Tsukemono5
I just remembered that China has a city up north and I did not have anything up there to take that city down, but it should be quick work. sorry I forgot
Tsukemono5 is up right now.
I forgot in my notes to say that we also took Canton. So, China only has 4 cities left. And also Otto has 1 sword and 3 archers by seoul. I did not totally finish the 70AD turn as I had to leave. All that was left was the to hit space bar and watch the moves. I am pretty sure otto is going to attack(why else would he be here) India and Egypt are both polite with us now.
Go take em down Tsukemono5
I just remembered that China has a city up north and I did not have anything up there to take that city down, but it should be quick work. sorry I forgot
Tsukemono5
American Pickle
Got it. Will play and post today.
Tsukemono5
American Pickle
Turns played. Chengdu does NOT want to die, so I have left it to bz to do that. China only has that and one more city. They're doomed . But unfortunately the Ottomans declared war on us, EVEN after I gave them an ROP and MA vs. China. Grrrrr. I'll post my report sevenish EST.
. But unfortunately the Ottomans declared war on us, EVEN after I gave them an ROP and MA vs. China. Grrrrr. I'll post my report sevenish EST.
Tsukemono5
American Pickle
OK, so I was wrong. Due to my computer being co-opted, I am unable to post my notes or the save. Tomorrow, I promise 
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OneFastWarrior
Asthma Hound Chihuahua
Tsukemono5 You there? just wondering. I can't wait to hear what your turns were like
Tsukemono5
American Pickle
GREEEEEEEEAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
I really tried. I really did. But my computer is not my own. I haven't touched mine (the one with the notes and Civ3) since wednesday. But thankfully, my sister leaves tomorrow for a while, so expect it in the early morning. I'm really sorry
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I really tried. I really did. But my computer is not my own. I haven't touched mine (the one with the notes and Civ3) since wednesday. But thankfully, my sister leaves tomorrow for a while, so expect it in the early morning. I'm really sorry
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OneFastWarrior
Asthma Hound Chihuahua
not a prob, just wanted to make sure we still are gonna finish this, Cause I am having fun and learning from all of you in the process.
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Tsukemono5
American Pickle
IT: I MM some places and fire clowns. Right now we need as much production as possible. I sign Ottomans to an ROP and MA vs. China for 188g, Polytheism, and Lit. I do NOT want them to attack us. They are now polite.
1. Mao comes begging for peace. Now way. China pillages one of our horses. Ottomans declare war?!?! This will not do. Ivory and Spices go Gandhi's way for MA against Ottomans, and WM + 321 g to Cleo to do the same. Tsingtao is taken with the loss of a single reg sword. I send a settler back up to Nara to replace Chengdu when it's razed. Osaka switches to a barracks. With two of our neighbors attacking us, we have no time for land grab!
2. Currency from the GL.
3. CRAP!!!! A warrior is about to pillage the spices by Nara and break our MA with India! I take it down to 1 hp with the warrior in Nara, and then I use the SPEAR on offense to finish it.
4. Nanking is taken. Whip a sword at Nara. Chengdu is PISSING me off.
5. Nagasaki and Yokohama temple --> harbor.
8. Chengdu is making me MAD. It will NOT die. Rather than suicide more units there, I'll leave it to bz to kill it off once we've destroyed mainland China.
9. Heroic Epic done [dance]. I have succeeded in losing track of the turns (these numbers are guesstimates past turn 3), so I'll stop at 250 AD to even things out.
And that's it. Good luck bz!
The Save
1. Mao comes begging for peace. Now way. China pillages one of our horses. Ottomans declare war
?!?! This will not do. Ivory and Spices go Gandhi's way for MA against Ottomans, and WM + 321 g to Cleo to do the same. Tsingtao is taken with the loss of a single reg sword. I send a settler back up to Nara to replace Chengdu when it's razed. Osaka switches to a barracks. With two of our neighbors attacking us, we have no time for land grab!2. Currency from the GL.
3. CRAP!!!! A warrior is about to pillage the spices by Nara and break our MA with India! I take it down to 1 hp with the warrior in Nara, and then I use the SPEAR on offense to finish it.
4. Nanking is taken. Whip a sword at Nara. Chengdu is PISSING me off.
5. Nagasaki and Yokohama temple --> harbor.
8. Chengdu is making me MAD. It will NOT die. Rather than suicide more units there, I'll leave it to bz to kill it off once we've destroyed mainland China.
9. Heroic Epic done [dance]. I have succeeded in losing track of the turns (these numbers are guesstimates past turn 3), so I'll stop at 250 AD to even things out.
And that's it. Good luck bz
!The Save
betazed
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Tsukemono, IMHO that was
If a civ has decided to attack you, there is nothing you can do to fend him off. He will attack no matter what you do.
So it always best to brace yourself, than buying him off.
Anyway, not much harm done. We just made Otto a little advanced that's it.
I will play tonight.
EDIT: Corrected some spelling errors.
Tsukemono5
American Pickle
Hindsight is always 20-20. Of course it was weed now. But look on the upside. Now all the other civs hate him for (in their eyes) abusing an ROP. And I think that if one civ hates another, then they will cost less to bring into a MA. Anyone know if this is correct?
betazed
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Ok Guys (and gals, if there are any in this team)! Do not take this otherwise but I have some major cribs. I know this is a game but there are some errors that are too egregious for me not to notice. Hopefully, my crib will have some learning value for some of you.
(a) We already know Republic and we have not revolted yet and are stuck with Despotism. Why? We are Religious. Our anarchy lasts only one turn.
(b) We are building a settler in Nara? Why? where will this settler go after he is made? This is one edge of the empire that is completely settled. The Chinese city will be taken over by us and there is no land to settle here. This settler will have to cross the entire empires length to get to some land where he can settle. And we are done with the settling phase. We are now in the conquering phase. Our outer cities are already corrupted to hell.
(c) MA with Egypt against Otto? What for. Firstly, we cannot defend against Otto with our single outlying city. So we have to just give him a hard time and then sign peace. Secondly, Cleo cannot even hurt Otto even if she wants to. She is on an unconnected island altogether. All she can do is take a two of Ottos useless cities. Even that she did not do as you will see in my write up
(d) Why in the name of Zeus are we still creating swords and spears from cities that do not have a barrack? I thought I pointed this out already. We are militaristic. That means our barracks cost only 20 shields. A single whip can create that barrack.
(e)If we had build the FP in Mecca we would have had two solid cores by now. Now we are stuck with one core and two corrupted arms of an empire.
Please take care of these little things from now on. For all practical purposes this game is already won. So it does not matter in this game. But we will win this not because we played very well (which we did at times) but because we were lucky in the layout and we were playing at monarch.
270 AD: We revolt. Rush barracks.
IT: India signs PT with Otto. So much for his MA with us.
280 AD: We capture XinJian. We are a Republic now. XinJian had 6 settlers. So we got 12 workers from them. I send them towards our homeland where improving tiles will give us better returns since those cities are not corrupted.
IT: China and Egypt sign peace. We sign PT with Otto. Our reputation is already trashed as I remember so this cannot hurt anymore.
300 AD: No more Chinese.
310 370 AD: I consolidate and start making improvements in cities. I do not think these should be vetoed. Let these buildings finish. The tech pace in this game will be slow as hell with Otto at war with Egypt and the useless Gandhi (who doesnt do anything at all in my experience). So wait till Chivalry. Build Samurai and then the game should be over.
Here is the save.
I know this is a game but there are some errors that are too egregious for me not to notice. Hopefully, my crib will have some learning value for some of you.(a) We already know Republic and we have not revolted yet and are stuck with Despotism.
Why? We are Religious. Our anarchy lasts only one turn.(b) We are building a settler in Nara? Why?
where will this settler go after he is made? This is one edge of the empire that is completely settled. The Chinese city will be taken over by us and there is no land to settle here. This settler will have to cross the entire empires length to get to some land where he can settle. And we are done with the settling phase. We are now in the conquering phase. Our outer cities are already corrupted to hell. (c) MA with Egypt against Otto?
What for. Firstly, we cannot defend against Otto with our single outlying city. So we have to just give him a hard time and then sign peace. Secondly, Cleo cannot even hurt Otto even if she wants to. She is on an unconnected island altogether. All she can do is take a two of Ottos useless cities. Even that she did not do as you will see in my write up(d) Why in the name of Zeus are we still creating swords and spears from cities that do not have a barrack?
I thought I pointed this out already. We are militaristic. That means our barracks cost only 20 shields. A single whip can create that barrack. (e)If we had build the FP in Mecca we would have had two solid cores by now. Now we are stuck with one core and two corrupted arms of an empire.
Please take care of these little things from now on. For all practical purposes this game is already won. So it does not matter in this game. But we will win this not because we played very well (which we did at times) but because we were lucky in the layout and we were playing at monarch.
270 AD: We revolt. Rush barracks.
IT: India signs PT with Otto. So much for his MA with us.
280 AD: We capture XinJian. We are a Republic now. XinJian had 6 settlers. So we got 12 workers from them. I send them towards our homeland where improving tiles will give us better returns since those cities are not corrupted.
IT: China and Egypt sign peace. We sign PT with Otto. Our reputation is already trashed as I remember so this cannot hurt anymore.
300 AD: No more Chinese.
310 370 AD: I consolidate and start making improvements in cities. I do not think these should be vetoed. Let these buildings finish. The tech pace in this game will be slow as hell with Otto at war with Egypt and the useless Gandhi (who doesnt do anything at all in my experience). So wait till Chivalry. Build Samurai and then the game should be over.
Here is the save.
Rubberjello
Emperor
Well, I agree with betazed, of course. (Just look at how many times my "builder" tendencies got shouted down in this thread! )
If this were a higher level, we didn't get such a good start, and didn't have such good luck with GL's and other things, we would be in a world of hurt. I don't know where the snowball effect of the Swordsman era took off, but I kind of thought the whole idea of playing the Japanese was to have fun with the Samurai unit. Not much left of the world to conquer now!
)If this were a higher level, we didn't get such a good start, and didn't have such good luck with GL's and other things, we would be in a world of hurt. I don't know where the snowball effect of the Swordsman era took off, but I kind of thought the whole idea of playing the Japanese was to have fun with the Samurai unit. Not much left of the world to conquer now!
OneFastWarrior
Asthma Hound Chihuahua
sorry about not changing governments, I did not change when we learned Repulic cause I was worried about our cities not being happy because of the war. ( I would have switrched immediately while at war if we had learned Monarchy)
I would never change anything that was prviously being built when my turns are up.
I am playing this and future sg's to learn from the vast experience of other players here and to have fun while doing it. I have already learned quite abit from playing this game with this group.
I would never change anything that was prviously being built when my turns are up.
I am playing this and future sg's to learn from the vast experience of other players here and to have fun while doing it. I have already learned quite abit from playing this game with this group.
betazed
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@oneFastWarrior: I am not saying do not change anything at all. Please do not take that as a guide (because that would be wrong). Do change, but provide justifications about why are you doing what you are doing.
In this particular game though I think it would be best if you let the current builds finish.
In this particular game though I think it would be best if you let the current builds finish.
ControlFreak
Not An Addict, Really
If they are coming for you or you suspect they are coming, you want to do the exact opposite of what you did. Buy techs/maps/gold with your gpt/lux/resources. That way, if they declare war, you get something for nothing. I don't remember if Ottomans had any tech you wanted.
Betazed@well said and well played.
