Rik, as the lone spectator wants to see a big battle for domination of the world... maybe that would serve our interests as well. Well no one pointed out that we have an average military now; that must have happened when we upgraded those rifles to infantry. That makes an attack more plausible. They have been leaving the forest by the mountain on their east coast undefended when I have checked intermittently. I would propose that for a landing spot should we attack, as it is close and reinforceable if we can get a foothold. Looks like we can build 9 infantry and upgrade 15 in the next 4 turns to give us about 30 to land with. I dont think they can handle that if we are average militarily. What is the vote now on going after them? We could also draft some and add workers back in, as well as mobilize. I think Robi mentioned we can still build UN under mobilization? If so, this may be a good way to end the game quickly and take away the uncertainty of a UN build. Next turn I will consolidate forces in the east and look at the logistics; we will need 6 or 7 more ships as well. Might tell KISS to send us some gold and coordinate a landing by their meager forces since they do have some galleys available to land something. The more I think about it the more this seems the best option.