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Unique unit elimination thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Kimiimaro, Apr 24, 2018.

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  1. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Since the Music Theme Elimination Thread is now finished, I've decided to open another elimination thread. This time, the topic are unique units.

    If there is a leader's name with Civ name in the bracket, it means that the unit is unique to the leader of the civ and comes as part of his unique ability.

    Rules:
    - Only strength of units/usefulness is compared. This also includes, range, cost of the units, availability and whether it can evolve from earlier units/to later units.
    - Vote roughly once per 24 hours. Voting significantly earlier must be explained.
    - Add one point, take away three points.
    - You must give a reason. Posts without reason will not be counted until a reason will be added.
    - Voting for the same unit several times in a row is not forbidden.

    Rankings:
    1. Pítati Archer (Nubia) :trophy:
    2. War-Cart (Sumer) :trophy2nd:
    3. Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) :trophy3rd:
    4. Eagle Warrior (Aztec) :trophy2:
    5. Mamluk (Arabia) :trophy2:
    6. Legion (Rome)
    7. Varu (India)
    8. Jong (Indonesia)
    9. Minas Geraes (Brazil)
    10. Cossack (Russia)
    11. Malón Raider (Mapuche)
    12. De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands)
    13. Redcoat (England/Victoria)
    14. Conquistador (Spain)
    15. Winged Hussar (Poland)
    16. Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada)
    17. Ngao Mbeba (Kongo)
    18. Impi (Zulu)
    19. Hypaspist (Macedon)
    20. Domrey (Khmer)
    21. Keshig (Mongolia)
    22. Hwacha (Korea)
    23. Hoplite (Greece)
    24. Garde Imperiale (France)
    25. Samurai (Japan)*
    26. Immortal (Persia)**
    27. Digger (Australia)
    28. Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt)
    29. Sea Dog (England)
    30. Saka Horse Archer (Scythia)
    31. Okihtcitaw (Cree)
    32. Berserker (Norway)***
    33. Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt)
    34. Crouching Tiger (China)
    35. Highlander (Scotland)
    36. Khevsur (Georgia)****
    37. U-Boat (Germany)
    38. P-51 Mustang (America)

    *Japanese Samurai's production cost was lowered from 180 to 160 and strength increased from 45 to 48 in the Spring Patch.
    **Persian Immortal can perform both ranged and melee attack again since the Spring Patch.
    ***Norwegian Berserker's production cost was lowered from 180 to 160, attacking strength increased from +7 to +10 and defence penalty was reduced from -7 to -5 in the Spring Patch.
    ****Georgian Khevsur's production cost was lowered from 180 to 160 and strength increased from 40 to 45 in the Spring Patch.
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2018
  2. MantaRevan

    MantaRevan Chieftain

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 20
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 20
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 20
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21 (20+1)
    I played Brazil recently on a shuffle map (not even that water heavy) and on standard speed and size won a domination victory almost entirely with this unit. I was really blown away by the Minas Geraes' sheer power.

    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 17 (20-3)
    I've literally never built an aerodrome and the P51 Mustang sure isn't going to convince me to start now.

    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 20
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 20
    Varu (India) - 20
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 20
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
  3. Mr. Shadows

    Mr. Shadows Nomad of the time streams

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 20
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 20
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21 (20+1=21)
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 17
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17 (20-3=17)
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 20
    Varu (India) - 20
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 20
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20

    I up-voted the legion because it's one of the strongest and (imho) most interesting units. I rarely use forts even though I'm always looking for good places, but their ability to repair tiles and chop in reinforcements (right at the front lines!) makes them genuinely scary. I down voted the horse archer because it has a range of 1 and doesn't upgrade until field cannons. Sure, you get two for the price of one but they're hard to keep alive and they have a very narrow window of usefulness.
     
  4. Socrates99

    Socrates99 Bottoms up!

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 20
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 20
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 14 (17 - 3)
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 20
    Varu (India) - 21 (20 + 1)
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 20
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20

    The Varu were amazing on my Chandragupta play through and had serious longevity. Air units just don't seem worth the effort in VI, sorry Mustang.

    Moderator Action: Edited to remove lingering references to prior votes and show arithmetic on Varu and P51 votes -- Browd
     
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  5. BenitoChavez

    BenitoChavez Whispering Walrus

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 21 = 20 + 1. There are 3 reasons why this is so overpowered. 1) Its freaking strong. 2) It come in the early game when war is it's most advantageous. 3) Free workers more than makes up for the extra production cost
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 20
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 14
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 17 = 20 - 3. There are three reasons why this is a steaming pile of poo. 1) It's a late game unit. 2) It's a naval unit and the AI is terrible at naval combat. 3) It a sub :nono:
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 20
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
  6. grant2004

    grant2004 Citizen

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 22= 21 + 1. Agreed completely with Benito on this, free workers are great! Even if this didn't implicitly come with the Aztec's ability to spend those workers on districts it would still be fantastic.
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 20
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 20
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 11 = (14-3) This shouldn't be up for debate, this must be eliminated first. Worst unit by far. In a game where the AI doesn't use air units, who needs a fighter? Who needs to waste a special unit slot on a unique fighter? I guess they had to do something to turn down Teddy's raw awesomeness though.
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 17
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 20
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
  7. The Highwayman

    The Highwayman Chieftain

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    Where is the crouching tiger hidden cannon from China? Or was it eliminated from the outset because it's so bad?

    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 22
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 20
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 17 = 20 - 3 Crap units like the Berserker and P51 you can simply avoid altogether. The Chariot archer blocks one from performing the most efficient and devastating assault in the game. They're also very expensive for something that upgrades to Crossbowmen. Too bad because functionally they're pretty good in open terrain.
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 11
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 17
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 21 = 20 + 1 I'll just go ahead and kick this off. Mysteriously doesn't replace the Heavy Chariot on the tech tree. It's available turn 1 with 1 extra movement, stronger melee combat, no maintenance cost, and lacks a counter unit. 'Nuff said.
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
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  8. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    My, apologies, I must have overlooked it. Please, can the next voter add Crouching Tiger (China) to the list?
     
  9. Pietato

    Pietato Warlord

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 20
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 22
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 20
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14 = 17 - 3 Crap units like the Berserker and P51 you can simply avoid altogether. The Chariot archer blocks one from performing the most efficient and devastating assault in the game. They're also very expensive for something that upgrades to Crossbowmen. Too bad because functionally they're pretty good in open terrain.
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 11
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 17
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 22 = 21 + 1 Mysteriously doesn't replace the Heavy Chariot on the tech tree. It's available turn 1 with 1 extra movement, stronger melee combat, no maintenance cost, and lacks a counter unit. Upgrades to Knight.
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20

    I just copied The Highwayman's reasons, because they are spot-on.
     
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  10. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 20
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23 (22+1) I've only played one game as the Aztecs, but capturing workers is really nice, not to mention they can be useful a long time with extra strength from luxes.
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 20
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 8 (11-3) useless the way things work in this game
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 17
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 22
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
  11. Snipee356

    Snipee356 Chieftain

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 20-3=17 (Got an advantage by being added late and 1 range is useless)
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 20
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 8 (11-3) useless the way things work in this game
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 17
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23 - Fun to kill civs early with this
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
  12. Rosty K

    Rosty K Chieftain

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14 (17 - 3) - Yeah, range. Also, you need to actually build the thing.
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21 (20 + 1) - Really, all ships in one. Just attach the right unit.
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 20
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 8
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 17
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2018
  13. Leathaface

    Leathaface Warlord

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 21 (20+1) A very strong unit, plus it health each turn.
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 8
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 20
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 14 (17-3) I never use it
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
  14. Phoenix1595

    Phoenix1595 Lord of the Two Lands

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 20
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 20
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 5 (8-3... nothing against them personally, but as they come so late and the AI fields no air force, they seem out of place in the game)
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 21 (20+1... whether I am playing as Nubia or against, these guys scare the living daylights out of me during the early game)
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 14
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
  15. Stomper66

    Stomper66 Chieftain

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 21 (20+1...They look cool, they have a plus 22 strength against musket men when used with religious unit, Spains ability and the wars of religion policy. They have a long life starting from Renaissance right through to end game. They are perfect for Spains religion / domination play style.
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 17 (20-3..I wanted this to be a Medieval unit and one of my favourites. It's a recon unit that arrives too late in the game. Its too late for musket men and can't fight infantry. Doesn't effect gameplay but they also look like part of the British army in the 19th century and don't look uniquely Scottish to me.
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 20
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 20
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 5
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 21
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 14
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20

    By the way if you like unique units I strongly recommend the Steel and Thunder mods. Every Civ gets one extra unique unit and there are also additional units in the Tech Tree.
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2018
  16. shadow8803

    shadow8803 Chieftain

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    Berserker (Norway) - 20
    Conquistador (Spain) - 21
    Cossack (Russia) - 20
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 17
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21 (20+1) There are a lot of good units in this game, and the Hwacha stands among them. It arrives at a reasonable time in the tech tree, and is strong enough to take down units and cities with respectable power.
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 17 (20-3) I defended Georgia's music to the bitter end in the last thread, but I cannot do the same here. The Khevsur arrives at an awkward, dead-end tech, is expensive, and not particularly useful for any push against the enemy.
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 5
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 21
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 14
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
  17. slowcar

    slowcar stratege

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    Berserker (Norway) - 17 (20-3) Weaker than a knight, abysmal defense, has to be hard-built.
    Conquistador (Spain) - 21
    Cossack (Russia) - 21 (20+1) Extra strength, additional extra strength near your border*, extra movement and retreat after attack makes this one of the best units in the game imo
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 23
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 17
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 17
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 5
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 21
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 14
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20

    *) Even though the game states "in your borders or adjacent to them" they get their bonus strength only in tiles outside but adjacent to your border. No clue if buggy unit or description though.
     
  18. MrRadar

    MrRadar Chieftain

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    Berserker (Norway) - 17
    Conquistador (Spain) - 21
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24 (23+1) - you get them right away when the war is free, they're strong, they bring builders. Just put them in the top position without any further voting.
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 17
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 17
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 2 (5-3) - AI has some way to go for this Cadillac of the Skies to become even remotely relevant
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 21
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 14
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
  19. Liufeng

    Liufeng A man of his time

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    Berserker (Norway) - 17
    Conquistador (Spain) - 21
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 24 + 1 = 25 Coming right away, its ability and power is awesome in the early game !
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 17
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 17
    Legion (Rome) - 21
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    P-51 Mustang (America) - 2 - 3 = -1 ELIMINATED It is not a very useful UU, and comes pretty late in the game, at a moment the AI can't defend itself.
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 21
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 14
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
  20. Weraptor

    Weraptor Chieftain

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    Still waiting for Elimination game elimination thread
    Berserker (Norway) - 17
    Conquistador (Spain) - 21
    Cossack (Russia) - 21
    Crouching Tiger (China) - 14
    De Zeven Provinciën (Netherlands) - 20
    Digger (Australia) - 20
    Domrey (Khmer) - 20
    Eagle Warrior (Aztec) - 25
    Garde Imperiale (France) - 20
    Hetairoi (Macedon/Alexander) - 20
    Highlander (Scotland) - 17
    Hoplite (Greece) - 20
    Hwacha (Korea) - 21
    Hypaspist (Macedon) - 20
    Immortal (Persia) - 20
    Impi (Zulu) - 20
    Jong (Indonesia) - 21
    Keshig (Mongolia) - 20
    Khevsur (Georgia) - 17 - 3 = 14 This needs to dissapear fast
    Legion (Rome) - 21 + 1 = 22 Legion magnus chop chopping out 2 more Legion. Try it before it gets nerfed.
    Malón Raider (Mapuche) - 20
    Mamluk (Arabia) - 21
    Maryannu Chariot Archer (Egypt) - 14
    Minas Geraes (Brazil) - 21
    Ngao Mbeba (Kongo) - 20
    Okihtcitaw (Cree) - 20
    Pítati Archer (Nubia) - 21
    Redcoat (England/Victoria) - 20
    Rough Rider (America/Teddy Roosevelt) - 20
    Sea Dog (England) - 20
    Saka Horse Archer (Scythia) - 17
    Samurai (Japan) - 20
    U-Boat (Germany) - 14
    Varu (India) - 21
    Viking Longship (Norway/Harald Hardrada) - 20
    War-Cart (Sumer) - 23
    Winged Hussar (Poland) - 20
     
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