Unique Units

[sandman730]

Maybe Arnor some unit from the time they were still an empire instead of only after they splintered. But to be honest I don't know good ideas right now. The rest of the list looks good what we have.

If you can find any UUs from that period, then I will add them

 

[xmen510]

The units with just the *, have you come up with any ideas for those sandman?

 

[sandman730]

The units with just the *, have you come up with any ideas for those sandman?

Not yet, but I will work on it.

 

[xmen510]

You are a machine sandman730. Thanks for the hard work. It is much appreciated.

 

[xmen510]

You know, we ended up completely forgetting about the Warg Riders. These will be generic Mounted Orc on Warg units. They will be considered unique however for Shadow Civs.

 

[xmen510]

In regards to Uruks of Mordor for sandman730: These are Uruk-hai as with Isengard, just that the "hai" had been left out.

 

[sandman730]

updated with xmen510's suggestions

Spoiler :

Civilizations:
UUs:
*Note: stuff in parentheses are changes made to unit that the UU replaces


Quendi:

Noldor: House of Fingolfin:
- UUs:
*Swordsmen

Noldor: House of Fëanor:
- UUs:
*Swordsmen

Teleri:
- UUs:
*Swan ships [early transport, other ships]

Sindar:
- UUs:
*Elven Archers
*Forest Sentry [double? defense on Forest Tiles, works especially nice as elven cities can be in forests.]

Vanyar:
- UUs:
*Spearmen
*Magic


Good Men:

Númenor:
- UUs:
*Unique ships

Arnor:
- UUs:
*Dunedain Horse Rangers [replaces knight]
strength: 14 (+4)
movement: 2
cost: 140 (+50)
Immune to first strikes
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
Ignores terrain movement costs (added)
1 first strike (added)
+25% defense bonus (added)
*Dunedain Foot Ranger [replaces archer]
strength: 6 (+3)
movement: 1
cost: 40 (+15)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
Immune to first strikes (added)

Gondor:
- UUs:
*Guards of the Citadel
*Trebuchets [replaces catapult, but has same stats as trebuchets in regular game]
*Ithilien rangers [?]

Edain:
-UUs:
*Swordsman


Neutral Men:

Rohirrim:
- UUs:
*mearas long-spear [replaces knight]
strength: 12 (+2)
movement: 2
cost: 120 (+30)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
1 first strike (added)
*mearas long-sword [replaces knight]
strength: 13 (+3)
movement: 2
cost: 160 (+70)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
2 first strikes (added)
*horse archer [same stats as horse archer in regular game]
*other horsemen [?]

Northmen:
- UUs:
*Dale archers [replaces archers]
strength: 5 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 50 (+25)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
+50% vs. Melee Units (added)
*workboats that don't get used up

Dunlending:
- UUs:
*units plunder more gold??
*cheaper but weaker units

Isengard:
- UUs:
*Uruk-Hai [replaces infantry]
strength: 6 (+1)
movement: 1
cost: 40
+10% City Attack
+25% vs. Melee Units
*other Uruk-Hai units [?]


Evil Men:

Haradrim:
- UUs:
*Mumakil [stats similar to war elephant]
strength: 10 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 80 (+20)
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
+50% vs. mounted units
1 first strike (added)
*Corsair [replaces infantry]
strength: 6 (+1)
movement: 1
cost: 80 (+40)
+10% City Attack
+25% vs. Melee Units
Starts with Amphibious and March promotion (added)
1 first strike (added)
*ship for Corsair [?]

Easterling:
- UUs:
*Chariots [replaces horsemen, but has the same stats as chariots in the regular game]
*War Chariots [replaces horsemen, but has the same stats as the war chariots in the regular game]
*Pikemen [replaces infantry, but has the same stats as pikemen in the regular game]

Angmar:
- UUs:
*sorcery maybe?
*Some kind of undead (Barrow Wights? maybe have some different undeads)


Shadow:
-UUs:
*Orc Units (-1 strength, -20 cost):

Warrior

Swordsman
Axeman
Long Swordsman
Berserker

Spearman
Pikeman

Bowman
Archer
Crossbowman

Scout
Hunter

Warg [mounted unit]​

*Troll Infantry [replaces infantry]
strength: 10 (+5)
movement: 1
cost: 160 (+120)
+20% City Attack (+10%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
*Troll Berserker [replaces Berserker]
strength: 13 (+5)
movement: 1
cost: 240 (+170)
+20% city attack (+10%)
Starts with Amphibious
+50% vs. Melee Units
*Troll Stoneslinger [replaces Archer]
strength: 8 (+5)
movement: 1
cost: 120 (+95)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
Starts with Amphibious (added)
+50% vs. Melee Units (added)

Mordor:
- UUs:
*Uruk-hai [same as Isenguard]
*Grond [World Unit]

Angband:
- UUs:
*Balrogs [replaces infantry]
strength: 13 (+8)
movement: 1
cost: 320 (+280)
+30% City Attack (+20%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
*Cold Drake
strength: 14
movement: 2
cost: 240
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
1 first strike (added)
*Fire Drake [replaces Cold Drake]
strength: 16 (+2)
movement: 3
cost: 360 (+120)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
2 first strikes (added 1)
*Winged-Dragon [replaces Cold Dragons]
strength: 18 (+2)
movement: 3
cost: 480 (+120)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
Ignores terrain cost (added)
2 first strikes
Can destroy tile improvements and hurt city defenses [-25% per turn] (added)
*werewolves
strength: 12
movement: 2
cost: 160
+50% vs. Mounted Units
1 first strike
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets


Khazâd:
- UUs:
*Dwarven slingers [replaces archer]
strength: 6 (+3)
movement: 1
cost: 60 (+35)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
Starts with Amphibious (added)

Longbeard:
- UUs:
*Dwarven Sappers [replaces infantry]
strength: 7 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 80 (+40)
+25% City Attack (+15%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
Starts with Amphibious (added)
*Dragon slayers [replaces infantry]
strength: 7 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 120 (+80)
+25% City Attack (+15%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
+100 against dragons

Broadbeams & Firebeards:
- UUs:
*Khuzdul Miner [replaces Worker]
movement: 2
cost: 60
Can improve tiles
+25% construction speed for Expansive leaders
+1 gold for every mined resource (added)

 

[xmen510]

Looking good. We just need some ideas for the Elven ones and some of the Men ones, like the Rangers, etc..

The Unique Units are getting very close to being done.

 

[Terrance888]

Arnor before the Collapse was a Large, Large realm: Therefore I think that their unit should be a faster Unit (Also, they are the farthest away in the northern parts from fighting in Mordor). Maybe Marching ***** (Axemen? Represents a mobile defense and attack force that reached Mordor to fight the same battle other people arrived to fight for.)

Numenor can have a "Armed Sailer" Unit that has Amphibious and when based on a ship (like a plain ) they get a bonus to attack. Also good for maps with less water as their usefullness in fighting across rivers can be explained.

Uruk Hai Berserkers
+50 v.s. Melee, -X V.S. other. Causes Collaterol Damage. (Theya re the first to reach to top of the wall and came up chopping. National Units? (can build only 20?))

Uruk Hai Marchers
2 Movement, (To catch traspassers, capture heros for ransom ect.)



Just my Two Pounds.

 

[sandman730]

updated with Charles Li's suggestions

Spoiler :

Civilizations:
UUs:
*Note: stuff in parentheses are changes made to unit that the UU replaces


Quendi:

Noldor: House of Fingolfin:
- UUs:
*Swordsmen

Noldor: House of Fëanor:
- UUs:
*Swordsmen

Teleri:
- UUs:
*Swan ships [early transport, other ships]

Sindar:
- UUs:
*Elven Archers
*Forest Sentry [double? defense on Forest Tiles, works especially nice as elven cities can be in forests.]

Vanyar:
- UUs:
*Spearmen
*Magic


Good Men:

Númenor:
- UUs:
*Unique ships
*Marching Units (+1 movement)
*Armed Sailer

Arnor:
- UUs:
*Dunedain Horse Rangers [replaces knight]
strength: 14 (+4)
movement: 2
cost: 140 (+50)
Immune to first strikes
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
Ignores terrain movement costs (added)
1 first strike (added)
+25% defense bonus (added)
*Dunedain Foot Ranger [replaces archer]
strength: 6 (+3)
movement: 1
cost: 40 (+15)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
Immune to first strikes (added)

Gondor:
- UUs:
*Guards of the Citadel
*Trebuchets [replaces catapult, but has same stats as trebuchets in regular game]
*Ithilien rangers [?]

Edain:
-UUs:
*Swordsman


Neutral Men:

Rohirrim:
- UUs:
*mearas long-spear [replaces knight]
strength: 12 (+2)
movement: 2
cost: 120 (+30)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
1 first strike (added)
*mearas long-sword [replaces knight]
strength: 13 (+3)
movement: 2
cost: 160 (+70)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
2 first strikes (added)
*horse archer [same stats as horse archer in regular game]
*other horsemen [?]

Northmen:
- UUs:
*Dale archers [replaces archers]
strength: 5 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 50 (+25)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
+50% vs. Melee Units (added)
*workboats that don't get used up

Dunlending:
- UUs:
*units plunder more gold??
*cheaper but weaker units

Isengard:
- UUs:
*Uruk-Hai [replaces infantry]
strength: 6 (+1)
movement: 1
cost: 40
+10% City Attack
+25% vs. Melee Units
*Uruk Hai Berserkers
+50 v.s. Melee, -X V.S. other. Causes Collaterol Damage. (They are the first to reach to top of the wall and came up chopping. National Units? (can build only 20?)) [?]
*Uruk Hai Marchers
+1 movement
+20 cost
*other Uruk-Hai units [?]


Evil Men:

Haradrim:
- UUs:
*Mumakil [stats similar to war elephant]
strength: 10 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 80 (+20)
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
+50% vs. mounted units
1 first strike (added)
*Corsair [replaces infantry]
strength: 6 (+1)
movement: 1
cost: 80 (+40)
+10% City Attack
+25% vs. Melee Units
Starts with Amphibious and March promotion (added)
1 first strike (added)
*ship for Corsair [?]

Easterling:
- UUs:
*Chariots [replaces horsemen, but has the same stats as chariots in the regular game]
*War Chariots [replaces horsemen, but has the same stats as the war chariots in the regular game]
*Pikemen [replaces infantry, but has the same stats as pikemen in the regular game]

Angmar:
- UUs:
*sorcery maybe?
*Some kind of undead (Barrow Wights? maybe have some different undeads)


Shadow:
-UUs:
*Orc Units (-1 strength, -20 cost):

Warrior

Swordsman
Axeman
Long Swordsman
Berserker

Spearman
Pikeman

Bowman
Archer
Crossbowman

Scout
Hunter

Warg [mounted unit]​

*Troll Infantry [replaces infantry]
strength: 10 (+5)
movement: 1
cost: 160 (+120)
+20% City Attack (+10%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
*Troll Berserker [replaces Berserker]
strength: 13 (+5)
movement: 1
cost: 240 (+170)
+20% city attack (+10%)
Starts with Amphibious
+50% vs. Melee Units
*Troll Stoneslinger [replaces Archer]
strength: 8 (+5)
movement: 1
cost: 120 (+95)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
Starts with Amphibious (added)
+50% vs. Melee Units (added)

Mordor:
- UUs:
*Uruk-hai [same as Isenguard]
*Grond [World Unit]

Angband:
- UUs:
*Balrogs [replaces infantry]
strength: 13 (+8)
movement: 1
cost: 320 (+280)
+30% City Attack (+20%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
*Cold Drake
strength: 14
movement: 2
cost: 240
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
1 first strike (added)
*Fire Drake [replaces Cold Drake]
strength: 16 (+2)
movement: 3
cost: 360 (+120)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
2 first strikes (added 1)
*Winged-Dragon [replaces Cold Dragons]
strength: 18 (+2)
movement: 3
cost: 480 (+120)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
Ignores terrain cost (added)
2 first strikes
Can destroy tile improvements and hurt city defenses [-25% per turn] (added)
*werewolves
strength: 12
movement: 2
cost: 160
+50% vs. Mounted Units
1 first strike
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets


Khazâd:
- UUs:
*Dwarven slingers [replaces archer]
strength: 6 (+3)
movement: 1
cost: 60 (+35)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
Starts with Amphibious (added)

Longbeard:
- UUs:
*Dwarven Sappers [replaces infantry]
strength: 7 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 80 (+40)
+25% City Attack (+15%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
Starts with Amphibious (added)
*Dragon slayers [replaces infantry]
strength: 7 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 120 (+80)
+25% City Attack (+15%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
+100 against dragons

Broadbeams & Firebeards:
- UUs:
*Khuzdul Miner [replaces Worker]
movement: 2
cost: 60
Can improve tiles
+25% construction speed for Expansive leaders
+1 gold for every mined resource (added)

 

[T_F]

Like the Uruk Berserkers, though didn't we have berserker as a kind of captain-y unit available after X promotions? (Maybe Berserker replaces Captain.)

Like the Arnor idea too. And JSYK it's spelled 'sailor'

 

[sandman730]

updated with T_F's suggestions

Spoiler :

Civilizations:
UUs:
*Note: stuff in parentheses are changes made to unit that the UU replaces


Quendi:

Noldor: House of Fingolfin:
- UUs:
*Swordsmen

Noldor: House of Fëanor:
- UUs:
*Swordsmen

Teleri:
- UUs:
*Swan ships [early transport, other ships]

Sindar:
- UUs:
*Elven Archers
*Forest Sentry [double? defense on Forest Tiles, works especially nice as elven cities can be in forests.]

Vanyar:
- UUs:
*Spearmen
*Magic


Good Men:

Númenor:
- UUs:
*Unique ships
*Marching Units (+1 movement)
*Armed Sailor

Arnor:
- UUs:
*Dunedain Horse Rangers [replaces knight]
strength: 14 (+4)
movement: 2
cost: 140 (+50)
Immune to first strikes
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
Ignores terrain movement costs (added)
1 first strike (added)
+25% defense bonus (added)
*Dunedain Foot Ranger [replaces archer]
strength: 6 (+3)
movement: 1
cost: 40 (+15)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
Immune to first strikes (added)

Gondor:
- UUs:
*Guards of the Citadel
*Trebuchets [replaces catapult, but has same stats as trebuchets in regular game]
*Ithilien rangers [?]

Edain:
-UUs:
*Swordsman


Neutral Men:

Rohirrim:
- UUs:
*mearas long-spear [replaces knight]
strength: 12 (+2)
movement: 2
cost: 120 (+30)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
1 first strike (added)
*mearas long-sword [replaces knight]
strength: 13 (+3)
movement: 2
cost: 160 (+70)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
2 first strikes (added)
*horse archer [same stats as horse archer in regular game]
*other horsemen [?]

Northmen:
- UUs:
*Dale archers [replaces archers]
strength: 5 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 50 (+25)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
+50% vs. Melee Units (added)
*workboats that don't get used up

Dunlending:
- UUs:
*units plunder more gold??
*cheaper but weaker units

Isengard:
- UUs:
*Uruk-Hai [replaces infantry]
strength: 6 (+1)
movement: 1
cost: 40
+10% City Attack
+25% vs. Melee Units
*Uruk Hai Berserkers [replaces captain {?}]
+50 v.s. Melee, -X V.S. other. Causes Collaterol Damage. (They are the first to reach to top of the wall and came up chopping. National Units? (can build only 20?)) [?]
*Uruk Hai Marchers
+1 movement
+20 cost
*other Uruk-Hai units [?]


Evil Men:

Haradrim:
- UUs:
*Mumakil [stats similar to war elephant]
strength: 10 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 80 (+20)
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
+50% vs. mounted units
1 first strike (added)
*Corsair [replaces infantry]
strength: 6 (+1)
movement: 1
cost: 80 (+40)
+10% City Attack
+25% vs. Melee Units
Starts with Amphibious and March promotion (added)
1 first strike (added)
*ship for Corsair [?]

Easterling:
- UUs:
*Chariots [replaces horsemen, but has the same stats as chariots in the regular game]
*War Chariots [replaces horsemen, but has the same stats as the war chariots in the regular game]
*Pikemen [replaces infantry, but has the same stats as pikemen in the regular game]

Angmar:
- UUs:
*sorcery maybe?
*Some kind of undead (Barrow Wights? maybe have some different undeads)


Shadow:
-UUs:
*Orc Units (-1 strength, -20 cost):

Warrior

Swordsman
Axeman
Long Swordsman
Berserker

Spearman
Pikeman

Bowman
Archer
Crossbowman

Scout
Hunter

Warg [mounted unit]​

*Troll Infantry [replaces infantry]
strength: 10 (+5)
movement: 1
cost: 160 (+120)
+20% City Attack (+10%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
*Troll Berserker [replaces Berserker]
strength: 13 (+5)
movement: 1
cost: 240 (+170)
+20% city attack (+10%)
Starts with Amphibious
+50% vs. Melee Units
*Troll Stoneslinger [replaces Archer]
strength: 8 (+5)
movement: 1
cost: 120 (+95)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
Starts with Amphibious (added)
+50% vs. Melee Units (added)

Mordor:
- UUs:
*Uruk-hai [same as Isenguard]
*Grond [World Unit]

Angband:
- UUs:
*Balrogs [replaces infantry]
strength: 13 (+8)
movement: 1
cost: 320 (+280)
+30% City Attack (+20%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
*Cold Drake
strength: 14
movement: 2
cost: 240
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
1 first strike (added)
*Fire Drake [replaces Cold Drake]
strength: 16 (+2)
movement: 3
cost: 360 (+120)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
2 first strikes (added 1)
*Winged-Dragon [replaces Cold Dragons]
strength: 18 (+2)
movement: 3
cost: 480 (+120)
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets
Ignores terrain cost (added)
2 first strikes
Can destroy tile improvements and hurt city defenses [-25% per turn] (added)
*werewolves
strength: 12
movement: 2
cost: 160
+50% vs. Mounted Units
1 first strike
Immune to first strikes
Doesn't receive defensive bonuses
Flank attack vs. Catapults and Trebuchets


Khazâd:
- UUs:
*Dwarven slingers [replaces archer]
strength: 6 (+3)
movement: 1
cost: 60 (+35)
1 first strike
+50% city defense
+25% hills defense
Starts with Amphibious (added)

Longbeard:
- UUs:
*Dwarven Sappers [replaces infantry]
strength: 7 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 80 (+40)
+25% City Attack (+15%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
Starts with Amphibious (added)
*Dragon slayers [replaces infantry]
strength: 7 (+2)
movement: 1
cost: 120 (+80)
+25% City Attack (+15%)
+50% vs. Melee Units (+25%)
+100 against dragons

Broadbeams & Firebeards:
- UUs:
*Khuzdul Miner [replaces Worker]
movement: 2
cost: 60
Can improve tiles
+25% construction speed for Expansive leaders
+1 gold for every mined resource (added)

 

[xmen510]

Looking good as always sandman730. Great work.