Unit Design
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id really like to know what program you guys use to create the units. im wanting to start doing stuff like that myself but not sure what program to get. any help or suggestions???
ps. mapmaking is not for me, sorry but its just not something id like to do. but 3D imaging is something i can get into.
ps. mapmaking is not for me, sorry but its just not something id like to do. but 3D imaging is something i can get into.
Qdin
Warlord
3D Imaging? so you want to make 3D images? XD
3ds Studio Max and/or Maya is the programs used, even though I don't know how to export anything to this game from them
3ds Studio Max and/or Maya is the programs used, even though I don't know how to export anything to this game from them
Qdin
Warlord
lol - yep. it's expensive
and I never said I managed to get anything into this game.. I mod other games too, ya' know?
and I never said I managed to get anything into this game.. I mod other games too, ya' know?
what do you know, i found a free 3d modeling program from the front forums. ever hear of "Blender". anyways, i just got it, now have to figure out the rocket science to work it, lol. tutorials and time and i should be able to figure it out. hopefully.
o yea, when the hell is this forum/mod gonna pick back up!!???!!! were all gettin very anxious here. too soon for me to start modeling for nething on here, need sum practice first, but id still give my input in the game if it was to come back alive.
o yea, when the hell is this forum/mod gonna pick back up!!???!!! were all gettin very anxious here. too soon for me to start modeling for nething on here, need sum practice first, but id still give my input in the game if it was to come back alive.
tallicahead00
Chieftain
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Here are my ideas for units to go along with the civs I recommended. In this you will see the type of unit that one belongs to and then the upgrade progression. This was where my research was the most time consuming because I wanted there to be accuracy with the upgrading of units. Also an idea I have is that the unique/hero units should be able to be upgraded to other heroes just so more people get to see their favorite character and play as them. So here goes:
Galactic Republic:
(Melee Units) Clone Assassin
(Blaster Units) Clone Trooper-> Clone Commando-> Clone Marine->
Clone Sniper-> Clone Commander-> Alpha Class ARC.
(Armored Units) AT-TE-> TX-130 Saber Class Fighter Tank-> ISP-> UT-AT-> SPHA-> HAV A6 Juggernaut.
(Air Units) BARC Speeder-> V-Wing Starfighter-> V-19 Jedi Starfighter-> ARC-170-> Naboo Royal Cruiser.
Note: I suggest the Naboo Royal Cruiser, because I think it looks like what a bomber would be.
(Naval Units) HAET-221-> LAAT-> Republic Shuttle-> Star Destroyer-> Super Star Destoyer.
(Unique/Hero) Amidala-> Scorch-> Boss-> Alpha-> Commander Cody-> Chancellor Palpatine, the design would look like when he was revealed as the Sith Lord in the attempt of the Council trying to arrest him.
CIS:
(Melee Units) Grappler Droid-> Magna Guard
(Blaster Units) B1 Battle Droid-> E4 Baron Droid-> Droideka-> Super Battle Droid.
(Armored Units) TSMEU-G Personal Wheelbike-> Dwarf Spider Droid-> Crab Droid-> Hailfire Droid-> Persuader-Class Droid Enforcer-> HAG
(Air Units) STAT-> MVR-3-> MAF-> HMP.
(Naval Units) Manta-> Sub-Carrier-> MTT-> Ostracoda
(Unique/Hero) General Grievous-> Count Dooku
Galactic Empire:
(Melee) Crimson Guard-> Sith Apprentice
(Blaster) Stormtrooper-> Storm Commando-> Shadow Trooper-> Snow Trooper-> Dark Trooper-> Space Trooper.
(Armored) AT-ST-> AT-TE-> AT-AT-> Juggernaut
(Naval/Air) Speepderbike-> TIE Interceptor-> TIE Fighter-> TIE Bomber-> Star Destoyer-> SuperStar Destroyer
(Unique/Hero) Kir Kanos-> Grand Admiral Thrawn-> Mara Jade-> Darth Vader-> Emperor Palpatine-> Palpatine Reborn
The Rebel Alliance:
(Melee) Padawan
(Blaster) Rebel Trooper-> Rebel Infantry-> Rebel Marine-> Specforce Trooper
(Armored) Same as Galactic Republic
(Naval/Air) A-Wing-> B-Wing-> X-Wing-> Y-Wing-> Outrider-> Millenium Falcon
(Unique/Hero) Chewbacca-> Leia Organa-> Dash Rendar-> Han Solo-> Young Luke Skywalker
Jedi Order:
(Melee) Padawan-> Jedi Knight-> Jedi Master-> Jedi Grandmaster
(Blaster) Same as Galactic Republic
(Armored) Same as Galactic Republic
(Naval/Air) Same as Galactic Republic
(Unique/Hero) Qui-Gon Jin-> Obi-Wan from Ep III-> Mace Windu-> Yoda-> Luke Skywalker, as Jedi master
Order of the Sith:
(Melee) Sith Assassin-> Sith Acolyte-> Sith Warrior-> Sith Marauder-> Sith Lord
(Blaster) Same as Galactic Empire
(Armored) Same as Galactic Empire
(Naval/Air) Same as Galactic Empire
(Unique/Hero) Maul-> Bane-> Revan-> Nihilus-> Scion
Mandalorians:
(Melee) I couldn't find any, so I'm leaving this one blank
(Blaster) Crusader-> Neo-Crusader-> Death Watch-> Mandalore
(Armored) Canderous Assault Tank
(Air) M3-A-> M22-T-> M12-L-> Pursuer-> Star Viper-> Slave-1
(Naval) Dungeon Ship-> Mandalorian Dreadnaught
(Unique/Hero) Canderous Ordo-> Montross-> Jango Fett-> Boba Fett
Sorry I didn't put any links up for pics, but as you can see that would have been a lot of links. If you are interested in looking something up just go to Wookiepedia or the actual SW site. That is where I got all of my info from. Also I didn't have enough time to research the Sith Galactic Empire so that part I wasn't able to put anything up for.
Galactic Republic:
(Melee Units) Clone Assassin
(Blaster Units) Clone Trooper-> Clone Commando-> Clone Marine->
Clone Sniper-> Clone Commander-> Alpha Class ARC.
(Armored Units) AT-TE-> TX-130 Saber Class Fighter Tank-> ISP-> UT-AT-> SPHA-> HAV A6 Juggernaut.
(Air Units) BARC Speeder-> V-Wing Starfighter-> V-19 Jedi Starfighter-> ARC-170-> Naboo Royal Cruiser.
Note: I suggest the Naboo Royal Cruiser, because I think it looks like what a bomber would be.
(Naval Units) HAET-221-> LAAT-> Republic Shuttle-> Star Destroyer-> Super Star Destoyer.
(Unique/Hero) Amidala-> Scorch-> Boss-> Alpha-> Commander Cody-> Chancellor Palpatine, the design would look like when he was revealed as the Sith Lord in the attempt of the Council trying to arrest him.
CIS:
(Melee Units) Grappler Droid-> Magna Guard
(Blaster Units) B1 Battle Droid-> E4 Baron Droid-> Droideka-> Super Battle Droid.
(Armored Units) TSMEU-G Personal Wheelbike-> Dwarf Spider Droid-> Crab Droid-> Hailfire Droid-> Persuader-Class Droid Enforcer-> HAG
(Air Units) STAT-> MVR-3-> MAF-> HMP.
(Naval Units) Manta-> Sub-Carrier-> MTT-> Ostracoda
(Unique/Hero) General Grievous-> Count Dooku
Galactic Empire:
(Melee) Crimson Guard-> Sith Apprentice
(Blaster) Stormtrooper-> Storm Commando-> Shadow Trooper-> Snow Trooper-> Dark Trooper-> Space Trooper.
(Armored) AT-ST-> AT-TE-> AT-AT-> Juggernaut
(Naval/Air) Speepderbike-> TIE Interceptor-> TIE Fighter-> TIE Bomber-> Star Destoyer-> SuperStar Destroyer
(Unique/Hero) Kir Kanos-> Grand Admiral Thrawn-> Mara Jade-> Darth Vader-> Emperor Palpatine-> Palpatine Reborn
The Rebel Alliance:
(Melee) Padawan
(Blaster) Rebel Trooper-> Rebel Infantry-> Rebel Marine-> Specforce Trooper
(Armored) Same as Galactic Republic
(Naval/Air) A-Wing-> B-Wing-> X-Wing-> Y-Wing-> Outrider-> Millenium Falcon
(Unique/Hero) Chewbacca-> Leia Organa-> Dash Rendar-> Han Solo-> Young Luke Skywalker
Jedi Order:
(Melee) Padawan-> Jedi Knight-> Jedi Master-> Jedi Grandmaster
(Blaster) Same as Galactic Republic
(Armored) Same as Galactic Republic
(Naval/Air) Same as Galactic Republic
(Unique/Hero) Qui-Gon Jin-> Obi-Wan from Ep III-> Mace Windu-> Yoda-> Luke Skywalker, as Jedi master
Order of the Sith:
(Melee) Sith Assassin-> Sith Acolyte-> Sith Warrior-> Sith Marauder-> Sith Lord
(Blaster) Same as Galactic Empire
(Armored) Same as Galactic Empire
(Naval/Air) Same as Galactic Empire
(Unique/Hero) Maul-> Bane-> Revan-> Nihilus-> Scion
Mandalorians:
(Melee) I couldn't find any, so I'm leaving this one blank
(Blaster) Crusader-> Neo-Crusader-> Death Watch-> Mandalore
(Armored) Canderous Assault Tank
(Air) M3-A-> M22-T-> M12-L-> Pursuer-> Star Viper-> Slave-1
(Naval) Dungeon Ship-> Mandalorian Dreadnaught
(Unique/Hero) Canderous Ordo-> Montross-> Jango Fett-> Boba Fett
Sorry I didn't put any links up for pics, but as you can see that would have been a lot of links. If you are interested in looking something up just go to Wookiepedia or the actual SW site. That is where I got all of my info from. Also I didn't have enough time to research the Sith Galactic Empire so that part I wasn't able to put anything up for.
gostanford22
Prince
Would you be able to make a list for all of these Civs? (Ignore the colors.
)Rebals=Dark Green (Like Arabia)
Black Sun=Black (like Barbarians)
Ratakan=Yellow (like Egypt)
Chiss= Dark Cyan (like Greece)
Mandalorians=Gray (like Germany)
Seperatists= Peach (like Mali)
Galatic Empire=Brown (like Mongols)
Old Republic=Orange (like Russia)
Sith=Red (like Japan)
Wookies= Green (like Aztec)
Quarrens=Blue (like America)
Vong= Purple (like India)
New Republic=White (like England)
Hutt= Dark Yellow (like Inca)
Galatic Senete= Dark Pink (like China)
Imperial Remnant= Dark Blue (like France)
tallicahead00
Chieftain
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Would you be able to make a list for all of these Civs? (Ignore the colors.
Rebals=Dark Green (Like Arabia)
Black Sun=Black (like Barbarians)
Ratakan=Yellow (like Egypt)
Chiss= Dark Cyan (like Greece)
Mandalorians=Gray (like Germany)
Seperatists= Peach (like Mali)
Galatic Empire=Brown (like Mongols)
Old Republic=Orange (like Russia)
Sith=Red (like Japan)
Wookies= Green (like Aztec)
Quarrens=Blue (like America)
Vong= Purple (like India)
New Republic=White (like England)
Hutt= Dark Yellow (like Inca)
Galatic Senete= Dark Pink (like China)
Imperial Remnant= Dark Blue (like France)
I would, but I don't want to do research for stuff that the actual programmers aren't going to use. If you would like to do this yourself you can do as I did and research wookiepedia and the SW site. But be warned, all those units you see in my post took three hours of research. If the programmers told which civs they were going with, I would do additional research but since I have heard little from them on the matter, right now I am just waiting to summoned for any other ideas.
gostanford22
Prince
what other set?
Space units could be divided to 6 or 7 categories and then use flavor units to differentiate. Something like this:
Fighters
Fighter squadron: Vulture droids, Delta-7, X-wings, TIE fighters, Z-95, Aurek fighters
Bomber squadron: Trade Federation droid bombers, ARC-170, Y-wings, TIE bombers, Skipray blastboats, Republic assault fighters, K-wings
Capital ships
Corvette/gunship: Corellian corvette (aka. "Rebel blockade runner"), Marauder-class corvette, some light cruisers like Carrack
Frigate: Nebulon-B (aka. "Rebel cruiser"), Munificent-class star frigate, Acclamator-class, and so on
Cruiser: Star Destroyers, Mon Calamari Star Cruiser, Lucrehulk-class, Providence-class, Dreadnought-class heavy cruiser, Rebel assault frigate
Troop transports/freighters: CR20 troop carrier, GR-75 medium transport, C-9979 landing craft, Sentinel-class landing craft
Then there could be a category for those really huge dreadnoughts. They should be rare and hard to build.
Fighters
Fighter squadron: Vulture droids, Delta-7, X-wings, TIE fighters, Z-95, Aurek fighters
Bomber squadron: Trade Federation droid bombers, ARC-170, Y-wings, TIE bombers, Skipray blastboats, Republic assault fighters, K-wings
Capital ships
Corvette/gunship: Corellian corvette (aka. "Rebel blockade runner"), Marauder-class corvette, some light cruisers like Carrack
Frigate: Nebulon-B (aka. "Rebel cruiser"), Munificent-class star frigate, Acclamator-class, and so on
Cruiser: Star Destroyers, Mon Calamari Star Cruiser, Lucrehulk-class, Providence-class, Dreadnought-class heavy cruiser, Rebel assault frigate
Troop transports/freighters: CR20 troop carrier, GR-75 medium transport, C-9979 landing craft, Sentinel-class landing craft
Then there could be a category for those really huge dreadnoughts. They should be rare and hard to build.
DonStamos
Mobster Inc©
I agree with the Dreadnoughts
Empire: Super Star Destroyer (Eclipse if you're feeling brave=-o)
Rebels/GA/NR: Mon Cal Star Defender
Chiss: dunno
CIS: General Grievous' flagship
Old Republic: dunno
Yuuzhan Vong: worldship
Those are just ideas. Dunno what to do about SSDs. The ESD was larger and Imperial-only and I'd love to see it but I dunno if it'd be too powerful or not. All this considering the NR/GA had at least two SSDs; Guardian and Lusankya.
btw, the Acclamator-class was a cruiser:-*
*Edit*
Maybe there could be something like this (using Civ4's naval units as a reference)
Fighters (all but the Empire's could explore outside borders since the TIEs but the Defender had a hyperdrive?)
Bombers
Transports/Carriers
Frigates
Corvettes (Including Victory Destroyers)
Destroyers (ISDs, Bothan Assault Cruisers, old Mon Cal cruisers)
Battleships (SSDs, MC90 Star Cruisers, Chiss SDs)
Dreadnoughts (cost a lot of money AND national unit! Eclipse, Star Defenders, etc)
All but the Dreadnoughts able to be captured? Basing this on lots of ships getting captured one way or another by various sides but maybe it involves a severely damaged unit and a spy, some way to make it tricky and dangerous to do to make the risk/reward more fulfilling? Could even make it harder based on how big the ship is - ie harder to capture an SSD than a VSD.
Thoughts?
Empire: Super Star Destroyer (Eclipse if you're feeling brave=-o)
Rebels/GA/NR: Mon Cal Star Defender
Chiss: dunno
CIS: General Grievous' flagship
Old Republic: dunno
Yuuzhan Vong: worldship
Those are just ideas. Dunno what to do about SSDs. The ESD was larger and Imperial-only and I'd love to see it but I dunno if it'd be too powerful or not. All this considering the NR/GA had at least two SSDs; Guardian and Lusankya.
btw, the Acclamator-class was a cruiser:-*
*Edit*
Maybe there could be something like this (using Civ4's naval units as a reference)
Fighters (all but the Empire's could explore outside borders since the TIEs but the Defender had a hyperdrive?)
Bombers
Transports/Carriers
Frigates
Corvettes (Including Victory Destroyers)
Destroyers (ISDs, Bothan Assault Cruisers, old Mon Cal cruisers)
Battleships (SSDs, MC90 Star Cruisers, Chiss SDs)
Dreadnoughts (cost a lot of money AND national unit! Eclipse, Star Defenders, etc)
All but the Dreadnoughts able to be captured? Basing this on lots of ships getting captured one way or another by various sides but maybe it involves a severely damaged unit and a spy, some way to make it tricky and dangerous to do to make the risk/reward more fulfilling? Could even make it harder based on how big the ship is - ie harder to capture an SSD than a VSD.
Thoughts?
I just remembered something I read in the manual for modding BtS. If we're planning to use the new flavour units system, all the units will have to be called the same (eg Light Cruiser). We could still mod them as UUs (without stat changes) so tat we could change the name. Thoughts?
Looks like a good start Civmansam. My modeling (and especially texturing) have gotten a lot better since we started so if you need heads or whatever let me know.
