US Army Caught Lying About Another Death

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http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/article1003728.ece

DARBY — Last June, a 20-year-old soldier training to be a Green Beret died during an exercise near Fort Bragg, N.C. The Army said Norman "Ehren" Murburg III was bitten by a 39-inch water moccasin on his left hand.

He died alone, 400 yards from his next checkpoint. His body was found the next day.

The snakebite story never made sense to his father, Mike Murburg. His son grew up outdoors on their rambling 5 acres in Darby, a rural area in northern Pasco County. He hunted, fished. He knew all about snakes.

But the Army said snakebite, and, back then, Mike trusted the Army.

Then, just a few weeks ago, an officer from Special Forces and an investigator came to Mike's home.

They said maybe the cause of death wasn't a snakebite after all. But they didn't know what it was.

Mike, a Tampa lawyer and Princeton grad whose own father had been a Navy frogman in World War II, rose from the couch. How could the Army get this wrong? Almost a year after Ehren died — a year filled with nightmares about snakes — the family was back where it started, twisting in grief. But now, the fog of shock had lifted and in its place was bitter anger.

"Excuse me,'' Mike said, "but I think my son should be present for this discussion.''

He walked to his bedroom and returned with an urn of ashes — some of Ehren's remains.

Mike, a bear of a man at 6 feet 5 inches, placed the urn on the coffee table in front of the men sitting on his sofa.

He sat back down.

"Continue."

• • •

The 10-hour mission began at 1 a.m. on June 9, 2008. It had been scheduled for daytime, but was pushed into darkness because of a record-breaking heat wave in North Carolina. Four days of 100-degree and higher weather. The National Weather Service warned people to stay indoors.

Private First Class Murburg, 6-4, 210 pounds, blond, green-eyed and athletic, only months earlier had been an anthropology major at the University of Florida and a member of Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity. But life there felt empty to him. He didn't want to talk about making the world better, he wanted to do it. So he enlisted in the Army.

On the day of the training exercise, he joined a hundred other Special Forces candidates in the densely wooded and swampy Hoffman Training Area. They navigated their way to checkpoints. Some of the areas were impenetrable. The candidates were told to wear safety glasses as they waded through the thick, scratchy brush. But this was Ehren's element, his turf. Two weeks before this test, he scored in the top 1 percent of his class in physical fitness.

Murburg made his first checkpoint at 7 a.m. Witnesses said he seemed fine. He got more water and took off.

He was last seen at 9:15 a.m. It was already 90 degrees outside.

The army's investigation would conclude that some time after that, he removed his pack by a small pond. He left it there and walked up a slight hill 70 meters to a dirt road. All the candidates had been instructed to get to the nearest roadway in case of trouble and to signal for help.

He sat down, his back against a dead tree that looked like barbed wire shooting up to the sky.

When he did not arrive at the final checkpoint at 11 a.m., soldiers went looking for him. They found him the next morning against the tree, slumped over his rifle. Two of his canteens were nearly full, the Army said.

He had not activated his emergency GPS locator, nor did he use his emergency flares.

That night — June 10 — a neighbor in Darby called to say Mike's dog had gotten out of the gate. When Mike went outside to fetch him, he saw a green sedan in his driveway. "Is my son okay?" he asked the men, who silently approached him.

"Are you the father of Private Norman Murburg III?"

"Yes."

Mike invited them inside.

Then they began:

"We regret to inform you ..."

• • •

Ehren was buried at the Florida National Cemetery in Bushnell on June 19. Soon after, his family went to Fort Bragg for a memorial service. They saw where Ehren died. The grass was still matted where Ehren's body was found. Mike said he later met an agent investigating the case who saw Ehren at the scene and thought, "We've lost another one to dehydration."

Later that summer, the Army came back to Darby to deliver Ehren's car and belongings, each one itemized. An unreadable Walgreens receipt from his wallet. Underwear, tan, size 34. A black ink pen. A blue Bible. A single white sock. Mike, who is 53, said the Army people held up each item and asked him to examine it before he signed for it. Then they checked it off their list.

"Each one was like a punch to the gut," he said.

In September, Special Forces said the investigation was done. Ehren had been dead three months.

The family was debriefed in a conference room at Mike's law office. There were so many people in uniform there that Mike had to bring in more chairs.

He was handed the autopsy report. It said Ehren died from a snakebite. He had scratches on the top of his left hand that the Army concluded were bite marks.

Then came the Power Point presentation, showing a snake that was found near the mud hole where Ehren left his pack. Its venom sacs were empty, as well as its stomach.

Mike was in no mood to argue with the Army's conclusion. His grief was numbing, paralyzing.

The cause of death made headlines. Mike and his daughter Erica, 23, talked with reporters and then thought they were done. But a few weeks later, Mike got a call from the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command — otherwise known as CID. Called the FBI of the Army, these agents — some military, some civilian — investigate all soldier deaths.

Their agents would be flying to Tampa to pick up the documents Special Forces had left with the Murburgs.

"The investigation is not over," Mike said he was told. He got the feeling CID wasn't convinced about the stated cause of death.

• • •

Soon after, Mike got another call from the Army, this time from a casualty assistance officer. She said some of Ehren's organs had been kept for additional testing. What did Mike want done with them?

He felt sick, imagining his son's heart, brains and lungs floating in jars of formaldehyde on some bleak lab shelf.

"Cremate them," he said.

The remains arrived at Tampa with full military pomp, just as Ehren's body had. Mike was asked if he wanted to meet the soldiers with the urn on the tarmac. "No," he said. He did that once and he wasn't doing it again.

• • •

Even though Mike and Erica knew about the CID investigation, they became obsessed with the snakebite finding.

Erica works in her dad's law office and together, they became self-taught experts. Medical terms like "envenomation" roll off their tongues.

"With potent venom, if you get bit straight into a vein, it could kill you," Erica said.

The description of scratches on Ehren's hand didn't fit with the snakebite images Mike and Erica found online. "After five hours of being bitten, you have chunks of flesh falling off," Mike said.

Snakes invaded their consciousness. Erica had a panic attack while walking in the woods with her fiance. She thought there were snakes everywhere. For Valentine's Day, her fiance bought her tall, thick boots so she would feel safe outdoors. Mike — who raised Ehren and Erica on his own after he and their mother divorced — made sculptures of what he was feeling. He created an underworld beast with a serpent's tail and trapped souls inside its belly.

If his son was bitten by a snake, Mike thought, maybe he was to blame. A few days before Ehren died, Mike had killed a water moccasin on his property and put it in a freezer. He wondered if he had angered some gods who sent vengeance upon his son.

He couldn't sleep. His health was crumbling. He wanted to escape. In April, he went to Ukraine by himself for two weeks. He sought solitude by the Black Sea. It worked, he said. He felt peace.

When he got home, Erica told him she had heard from CID. They were done with their investigation and were ready to discuss their findings.

• • •

The Special Forces officer and the CID agent sat on a sofa. It was the afternoon of May 1, a Friday. Mike sat in a large chair facing them. They said they didn't know what happened to Ehren.

Mike said he was told Ehren could have died from heat stroke and dehydration. He could have had an undiagnosed heart condition.

Or it could have been a snakebite.

They couldn't say. They never did a blood test to check for snake venom, the Murburgs said. When the family asked why it wasn't done, Erica said they were told, "We didn't have the funds." The samples would have been sent to a facility in Miami, which would have been expensive.

"This makes no sense," she said later. "It's like saying someone died from getting bitten with an animal with rabies but not doing a rabies test."

The investigators said they found out Ehren had an abnormal EKG reading, but could not say when the test was taken, what it said, or whether the results would have kept him out of Special Forces.

The family said they asked for a copy of the amended autopsy, but the investigators wouldn't hand it over. The Murburgs would need to get that and other information through a Freedom of Information Act request.

"How are we supposed to ask intelligent questions without being able to read the autopsy first?" Mike said.

The whole meeting sent the family spinning. In the beginning, they didn't know how Ehren had died. Then they got an answer, but the answer didn't make any sense.

Now they had no answer at all.

"Do you have anything else to tell me?" Mike asked.

The officer and the agent said nothing.

"Then I think this meeting is over," said Mike, who still shook their hands as they left.

• • •

The autopsy report was sent a week later, without the need for an FOI request. Dr. Timothy Monaghan, chief deputy medical examiner for the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, wrote a letter of apology to Mike. He said the family should have been given a copy of the autopsy report before the CID investigators paid their visit.

"In my experience, this has never happened before and I profoundly regret that this simple courtesy was not extended to you, given the supreme sacrifice your family has made."

Although the Murburgs have been debriefed, the CID investigation is not officially closed, said Christopher Grey, chief of public affairs for CID. Grey said he could not discuss the case, though he did say it is normal procedure to ask families to submit FOI requests for documents. It's hard to know what information families want. "Some don't want any at all," he said. The documents and photographs can be emotionally brutal.

Mike has put in a request for his son's case — and for photos of Ehren's hands, to see for himself what the marks looked like. He's having them sent to his sister and brother-in-law, who are doctors, because if he had to look at them it "would undoubtedly kill me."

For Ehren's case, Grey said, "We don't suspect any type of foul play."

Neither does Mike. He believes Ehren probably died of heat stroke and dehydration or some kind of heart condition. He is working with his sister and her husband to get any tissue samples the Army might still have so they can do their own independent tests. He plans to exhume Ehren's body to see if tests can be done with his remains — and to also put the ashes of his organs to rest with his body.

He wants answers and hopes that if any are found, they can be used to help other soldiers.

Mike doesn't want to feel this bitterness toward his own country's military. He writes poems to work through his grief. After his son died he wrote of the Army being Ehren's family, of loving him as their own child. Mike's latest poem is titled, "Bull----."

I tried to believe their story.

I wanted to, but could not.

It was a lie.

He saved two voice mail messages from Ehren and listens to them often. They comfort him. Lately, his nightmares have ebbed. Now, when Ehren appears in his dreams, he's smiling.

After Ehren died, Mike let his garden die, too. But this year, he's been working in it again, planting, nurturing new life. By the stalks of corn, there is a pole with an American flag at half-staff. The flag flies upside down.

Discuss.
 
Didnt see anywhere that said the Army lied.

What would you call them claiming he died from snakebite when he obviously didn't? An untruth? A failure to speak with unforked tongue?
 
Doesnt mean it's a lie. It could have been a poor investigation that jumped to conclusions.
:lol:

I have no idea what this "instant envenomation" nonsense is. Venom doesn't work that way, especially Water Moccasin venom. And snakes don't empty their venom sacks in a single bite, either. I also like that it was conveniently found nearby, despite them arriving long after the supposed bite.
My guess is they didn't want another death blamed on heat stroke because it shows a general callousness and lack of proper supervision.

The 10-hour mission began at 1 a.m. on June 9, 2008. It had been scheduled for daytime, but was pushed into darkness because of a record-breaking heat wave in North Carolina. Four days of 100-degree and higher weather. The National Weather Service warned people to stay indoors.

It is also a complete crock that it took them nearly 24 hours to find him...
 
My guess is they didn't want another death blamed on heat stroke because it shows a general callousness and lack of proper supervision.

Both of his canteens were full.


It is also a complete crock that it took them nearly 24 hours to find him...


He was going through Green Beret training. A hard core SF unit. Should they have people out there holding their hands through it all?
 
For what its worth, I had a friend who was an Army Ranger who said during his training someone had swam into some kind of a "mating nest" of poisonous snakes and died.

Doesn't seem like the Army lied, just that they got it wrong.

But there is the possibility something showed up on that EKG and they swept it under the rug, when they shouldn't have. They could be in deep trouble if they're covering that up.
 
Therein lies the problem. Like any other bureacuracy, the US military is more than willing to lie to try to cover up their own issues from the public, regardless of how much they have to lie to do so. All they have to do is presume it is "for the best interests of the service".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman
 
My guess is they didn't want another death blamed on heat stroke because it shows a general callousness and lack of proper supervision.

As I have said before - you are a pretty bad guesser. Apparently you missed the fact that each troop had a gps locater they could turn on in case of emergency to be found. The soldiers was never turned on.

It is also a complete crock that it took them nearly 24 hours to find him...

Dude, you have no idea wth you are talking about. Fort Bragg is a huge base covering some 260+ sq miles with huge training areas with rough terrain. It was a 10 hour mission, meaning there was a huge amount of rough terrain to navigate across and he could have been any where in the middle of all that.

The entire point of all this is that even training in the military is a very dangerous thing. I have said this many times on this forum. Soldiers die in training accidents like this every year.

As for whether it was snake bite or not /shrug. Dead is dead. So the army may have gotten its initial cause of death wrong...at least they came back and told they dad the truth - that they didnt actually know what the cause of death was because they didnt test the soldiers blood for snake venom.

Again, Forms headline of this thread is the only real lie here. There is nothing in the story to indicate that the Army did lie inasmuch give a cause of death that they indeed thought was valid and reported by an autopsy. In fact, they did the right thing and came back and told the family the situation. I guess they get no kudos for actually doing the right thing although it was a very hard thing to do. Typical.
 
Again, Forms headline of this thread is the only real lie here. There is nothing in the story to indicate that the Army did lie inasmuch give a cause of death that they indeed thought was valid and reported by an autopsy. In fact, they did the right thing and came back and told the family the situation. I guess they get no kudos for actually doing the right thing although it was a very hard thing to do. Typical.

But they didn't do the blood test. Is that the right thing also?
 
I guess they get no kudos for actually doing the right thing although it was a very hard thing to do. Typical.

/Sigh Can the DoD get a move on over the electrocution deaths of US soliders in Iraq ?
Iam sure they willl get around to it, but these cases are pretty clear cut.

It just seems so slow.

Even worse, more than half came after Pentagon investigators linked faulty KBR wiring to the electrocution of four soldiers intent on relaxation. One soldier died taking a shower and another in a swimming pool.
 
But they didn't do the blood test. Is that the right thing also?

Only if they thought his death odd somehow. Real life isnt like CSI on tv....but a lot of people dont realize that...

This was an accidental training death. Soldier was still dead regardless of whether it was a snake bite, heat, dehydration or a combination of all three. It wasnt ruled a murder, or suspecious so they didnt test his blood, dust him for prints, or do bullet analysis on his weapon.
 
As I have said before - you are a pretty bad guesser. Apparently you missed the fact that each troop had a gps locater they could turn on in case of emergency to be found. The soldiers was never turned on. .

So your guess is what? That he was instantly killed by aliens?

Dude, you have no idea wth you are talking about.

It's ironic, but everytime you post I get exactly the same feeling. You have to be the biggest US military apologist of all time. :lol:

Again, Forms headline of this thread is the only real lie here.

As usual, you can't even be bothered to read the article before responding with your patently absurd defense of the indefensible. :lol:

Mike doesn't want to feel this bitterness toward his own country's military. He writes poems to work through his grief. After his son died he wrote of the Army being Ehren's family, of loving him as their own child. Mike's latest poem is titled, "Bull----."

I tried to believe their story.

I wanted to, but could not.

It was a lie.

Dad wants sensible answer for soldier's training death
 
So your guess is what? That he was instantly killed by aliens who wanted to anally probe him?

No, that only occurs in Florida. :rolleyes: To me its obvious that whatever happened caused him to have black out and not think right, since he had the water on him and the means to be found. Water Moccasins are very agressive snakes, which will indeed sometimes attack you if disturbed. Its possible one bit him, and that, plus the heat made him delirious and he passed out and died.

It's ironic, but everytime you post I get exactly the same feeling. You have to be the biggest military aplogist of all time.

No, I tend to give it an honest viewpoint. Yes, the military does a huge number of things stupidly and wrong. But not half as much as folks like you seem to think. I simply give balance where there is none in opinion such as you have.

As usual, you can't even be bothered to read the article before responding with your defense of the indefensible. :lol:

No, I read the entire story, twice, before I posted. I even went to see how large an area Fort Bragg covers in order to check your point about him not being found in 24 hours...and then I posted. You made your comment with completely no knowledge of how large a training area the event was being held in or how heavy the terrain was.

The only person apt to jump to quick and often wrong conclusion about things military is YOU. So instead of trying the logically false arguement of saying I didnt read the story when I did, come up with a new line of debate...that one failed miserably.

Btw, a bereaved parent that is emotional isnt exactly a fair indicator of whether a lie was done...or not at all. There was no 'cover up' here. No conspiracy. No need for allege a lot of crap about the Army.
 
No, that only occurs in Florida. :rolleyes: To me its obvious that whatever happened caused him to have black out and not think right, since he had the water on him and the means to be found. Water Moccasins are very agressive snakes, which will indeed sometimes attack you if disturbed. Its possible one bit him, and that, plus the heat made him delirious and he passed out and died..

Not without any outward signs it isn't. You apparently know as much about poisonous snakes as you do about the ongoing lies and deceit of the US military. :lol:
 
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