didn't I said we should end this thread?
Originally posted by Tritium
What ever happened to the Egyptians and papyrus scrolls??? Definitely before china. (real history)
what about it and what does it have to do with this thread? Just because you put "real history" in bracket doesn't mean it's real history. At least make a link or a reference that support your fact.
China great??? - For corruption, depravity, intolerance, paranoia, small man syndrome & invasion of Tibet. China may be large but its not great. The sleeping dragon will never truely rise with an inherently corrupt society. The History of china is of corruption. The majority of the revolutions that have brought down any dynasty or government in china has been to the effects of corruption(.) from the peasent revolts of pre-manchus to the republic to the current drive of the communists to try and clean themselves up.
SUPPORT YOUR STATEMENT. You did? No, you need to update your history since China had evolved since 1970s. Corrupt Society? That's one hell of statment, support it please. And then you are talking about the Chinese history. Look, that's like what? 5000+ years. Which civilization wasn't in a monarchy? Wasn't corrupted? The point is, who cares? We are looking at the future, not our past. Yes, they are spending huge effort to clean themselves up, doesn't it counter your whole argument?
Oh, just because Dutch people are the tallest doesn't mean they are anything special. And invasion of Tibet?
I don't know, all I can think of is North VS South.....
The Chinese are creating their own messes. They created the conditions for their war with the British that lost them Hong Kong amongst other things. Unequal trade with an arrogant attitude. (China has everything it needs with in its own borders - manchu Emperor) Trade means trade. This can be seen in todays historical economy as it was then. America will change it dealings with the chinese too. Its only a matter of time.
READ YOUR HISTORY BOOK, it was the British who demanded an unequal trade with an arrogant attitude. It's about some sort of drugs, can't remember(Heroine?) The Chinese didn't want it but the British force them to accept the trade cause it means $->Britain. I don't blame the British cause the strongest survive, right? The Chinese dynasty(last one) was extremely weak and tried to do something about it but ended up in a losing war. And oh my god, you seriously think US is getting a poor deal from Chinese trade? Are you totally brainwashed? Look how much things made in China cost you and do you think they should give you for free?
You know what's the BIGGEST problem of your argument? Assume that you are from US, you did not imply anything your governemnt had done that might not live up to the US image. Thus your viewpoint is bias.
The whole who is better than who is a moot point. BUT who has contributed the most to human society - well that can be measured and interpreted differently by who is reading the info.
There are three types of lies: 1) Lies 2) Damned Lies 3) and Statistics (Mark Twain?)
I don't know, I don't agree the topic is event a valid one.
Lets look at who has contibuted the most in the last 1000 years to human kind.
Year 1000 - The Eastern Roman Empire? The Islamic Invasion? Geghis Khan? India? Native American Tribes?
Do any of these matter? War, conquest, death, change, money & resources is what drives human society for the majority of its existance and changes. Not until recent history does this change (the last few hundred years) for truely the benefit of man kind.
Medicine, standard of living, comfort & peace.
Read history people- not the television. Ask MANY questions. [/B]
Just because we are living in the 21th century doesn't mean all our ancestors worth jacks you know. They went thru the bloodshed to create the condition we are living in. About the benefit, you miss one of our greatest invention: Nuke.
Let's not forget our planet will be burn by the sun after 500,000,000(or something like that) years. Until then, why not have peace and just forget our(I mean all countries) past and plan our(I mean all countries) future?
Peace.
, when it isn't totally obtuse
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