Version 1.95 posted (comments thread)

darkedone02 said:
I was playing your new version, and i have found a bug that almost every mod have been getting. I was playing the small size version of your TAM sanerio and gave everyone a accurate religion (Christanity for Rome, Olymapic Gods for Acennians (damn long names), ect). Somehow, my religion (animalim), and other religion holy citys are being removed and no longer a holy city, this happen to me three times when i have to use the world builder to see if everyone have there holy city, I have to give back my holy city 3 times, and i quit cause i want to post this error i been having. I have not been having warnings or anything else like that, but i think it's the spreading issue, that somehow mine and the person that i spread got both of there holy city removed. Please fix this error cause i don't like doing this everytime it happens.
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Hmm... we have changed the way the holy city works (it doesn't give any more gold), is that what you're referring to?

We didn't change anything how the placement works, I have no idea why it's being removed. Are you sure this doesn't happen in the normal game, too?
 
thamis said:
Hmm... we have changed the way the holy city works (it doesn't give any more gold), is that what you're referring to?

We didn't change anything how the placement works, I have no idea why it's being removed. Are you sure this doesn't happen in the normal game, too?
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He's having the same problem in Sevo's mod too, from what he's said, I think he has other stuff installed. No one else has reported any issues with this.

Cham
 
Carthage is very slow... I'm not sure if this is historically accurate or not, but I've found that expansion seems slow, especially given all the Barbarians.

I would like to see some better production potential in the capital, but I'm not sure that's the whole problem.

Sorry, I just don't have problems with any other civ.
 
My main "complaint" with the mod is the abundance of Great Engineers, and the almost inevitable strategy that comes with it. Rushing wonders gets all the fun out of building them. Plus I always end up building the same ones (ex: The Sphinx). Maybe if you lower significantly the production bonus it would be ok. Is there a way to give a bonus based on a % of the production? Ex: Giving half the production required by a building (instead of a given value that would still be too high at the start of the game, while useless since too low at the end of the game). Great Merchants may also be a bit too strong...

Also with the last versions, the lack of tech trading seems to disavantage the AI a lot near the end of the game.

With that being said, I still having a lot of fun with the mod,

thanks again :goodjob:
 
(minor) Bug report :
When you find Tribal Laws, game proposes Council of Elder saying it gives +2 exp per unit.
 
baptiste said:
(minor) Bug report :
When you find Tribal Laws, game proposes Council of Elder saying it gives +2 exp per unit.
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I've noticed this also.

P.S. Carthage isn't slow...I just needed to change my strategy.

P.P.S. My current game is around 800BC. I'm in the lead, followed by Rome, Greece, Egypt, and Phoenecia. (All the rest are not doing so well)

P.P.P.S. Thamis is also correct about being able to cruise through the terretorial waters of other civs.
 
I'm finding the other Civs way to unwilling to trade. Only one civ will have open borders with me; none will trade technologies with me. The open borders thing is, perhaps, the biggest problem because it means that a whole strategy for generating commerce is removed (port cities, harbors, great lighthouse, etc).

It is actually quite strange for me to play with any tech trading (which is how it is now). I have to really re-think my strategy...

I assume that this is a side-effect of making the AI more aggressive, which is definitely a good thing. Is there any way to make the AI become aggressive when the opportunity arises or towards a select few Civs, but more friendly otherwise?

-- Hypnotoad
 
I fixed my earlier problem (updated to 1.951, tower of babel was built). So far I love the mod almost as much as the Civ3 version. I can definitely tell it is incomplete, but its still awesome. I guess I'll post my nitpicks in this thread. I definitely can't wait for the Warlods version of TAM. I think heroes are kind of a silly unit, and would be better integrated as a warlord. Plus, you have new music for leaders (like Carthage and Celtic).

- I do not know the history of Mycenae. Did they use primarily chariots? I saw they had a UU hoplite. I had a war party heading into Agamemnon's territory, and the first city I saw had so many chariots and chariot archers that it couldn't list them all. I didn't have a hope in hell of assaulting it, so I found a hill outside the city and camped it. Marcus (one of my spearmen), eventually got 130 exp from the seemingly infinite Mycenean chariots. Are they supposed to have so many, especially for a greek civilization?

- Northern barbarians (gaul, germany, britons) really suck because I don't think the AI knows to get the technology to chop trees, which they desperately need for growing cities. As a result, they grow extremely slowly. I know they were a primitive people, but it really makes them chopped liver ingame. I think in my game, at 200AD they have about 400 points while everyone else has 800+.

- Carthage has a city that is a long string of captial letters, probably XML related.

- I enjoy being a powerful Rome, and being able to demand money from weaker civilizations. This feels right, and is awesome.
 
Chode:

It is not possible to control which civ builds what units. Their UU is a hoplite, but for some reason the AI decided to build chariots. We need to tone down the chariot archers, anyway.

The northern barbarians are supposed to be highly disadvantaged.

I'll look into Carthage. Which city was it?
 
I have a game as Carthage at the moment...don't recall having the issue with Hadrumentum. I will check when I get back home.

P.S. I peacefully settled both sides of Cicily and the only thing stopping me from the other two islands off Italy's western coast is my darn economy, lol...But, then again, I have managed to colonize almost all the way down to the wine resource far to the South West of Carthago...
 
thamis said:
Hmm... we have changed the way the holy city works (it doesn't give any more gold), is that what you're referring to?

We didn't change anything how the placement works, I have no idea why it's being removed. Are you sure this doesn't happen in the normal game, too?
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This brings up a suggestion. Could we increase the gold slightly from the holy cities? We went from gobs of gold to almost nothing. There should be a middle ground here, perhaps make it equal to the size of the holy city? This would at least grant a reflection of the tourist dolars and influence of the holy city. As it is now, I typically forgo founding religions...

My two ingots.
 
Pardon my ignorance. Feel like an idiot. But how do I install the mod? I've downloaded it. It's in my install files folder. I click on it. Extract it to Civilization IV, Mods folder. But it stays as an exe. and won't come up as a mod. Any help would be much appreciated.
 
kwarriorpoet said:
This brings up a suggestion. Could we increase the gold slightly from the holy cities? We went from gobs of gold to almost nothing. There should be a middle ground here, perhaps make it equal to the size of the holy city? This would at least grant a reflection of the tourist dolars and influence of the holy city. As it is now, I typically forgo founding religions...

My two ingots.
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We're actually thinking of scrapping religions altogether and rename them to Cultures, which will then allow special buildings and units for each culture.
 
Oh. Thanks very much, Thamis.
 
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