Version 2.7 bug reports and feedback

Ironmann · Jul 7, 2009

Besides the first time ever experienced shifted symbol bugs I also experienced something strange with the Abyssian Xebec.

Picture says more than 1000 words so here I go;

Other than that I as always are thankfull for this great(best) mod.

Dancing Hoskuld · Jul 7, 2009

Ironmann said:
Besides the first time ever experienced shifted symbol bugs I also experienced something strange with the Abyssian Xebec.

Picture says more than 1000 words so here I go;

Other than that I as always are thankfull for this great(best) mod.

There is nothing wrong - the xebec is in a coastal fort - that is allowed in BtS.

cr0ws · Jul 7, 2009

Ironmann said:
Besides the first time ever experienced shifted symbol bugs I also experienced something strange with the Abyssian Xebec.

Picture says more than 1000 words so here I go;

Other than that I as always are thankfull for this great(best) mod.

This is an intended strategy, not a bug.

vincentz · Jul 7, 2009

Besides the first time ever experienced shifted symbol bugs

Look in one of the first post in this thread. There you'll find some Gamefonts.tga that fix the shifting symbols

Jakob Safa · Jul 7, 2009

Beside all the bugs that have been mentioned I noticed this:
commercial port is an upgrade of the normal port, but I can build commercial port without building a port first.

chumpy56 · Jul 7, 2009

fox456 said:
My problem is this: Every time I try to load a saved game during gameplay, the game crashes. I am guessing that there is a simple fix since no one seems to be having this exact problem. I am using a Huge map with 10 civs.

fox, I just had the same problem last night.... huge map, only 6 civs. My computer is bad (P4, 512 RAM, 128mb VC) but I have never had any of the problems others have noted. No MAF, no CTD. I was at around 2200 BC as well.

fox456 · Jul 7, 2009

chumpy56 said:
fox, I just had the same problem last night.... huge map, only 6 civs. My computer is bad (P4, 512 RAM, 128mb VC) but I have never had any of the problems others have noted. No MAF, no CTD. I was at around 2200 BC as well.

Thanks for replying chumpy. Not only was I crashing every time I wanted to reload, the turns were taking quite a while for the computer opponents. I started a new game today with a LARGE map instead of a HUGE map and I've just started the reload crashes. I'm only 99 turns into the game. Is there a hard disk size requirement or something else I'm overlooking? I really like this mod and I have alot of patience. But, it is discouraging me now that the problem persists even with a LARGE map.

NOTE: I just found out that the game also crashes if you try to simply exit the game to go to the Main Menu.

climat · Jul 7, 2009

Jakob Safa said:
Beside all the bugs that have been mentioned I noticed this:
commercial port is an upgrade of the normal port, but I can build commercial port without building a port first.

- Changed: Port +1 health with Shrimp, no longer require Harbor in city (allows player to skip Harbor building if already has access to Port, building upgrade line still works like before)
- Changed: Commercial Port +1 health with Shrimp, no longer require Port
- Changed: International Port +1 health with Shrimp, no longer require Commercial Port

It is changed from 2.7test2, I think.

Dancing Hoskuld · Jul 7, 2009

fox456 said:
Thanks for replying chumpy. Not only was I crashing every time I wanted to reload, the turns were taking quite a while for the computer opponents. I started a new game today with a LARGE map instead of a HUGE map and I've just started the reload crashes. I'm only 99 turns into the game. Is there a hard disk size requirement or something else I'm overlooking? I really like this mod and I have alot of patience. But, it is discouraging me now that the problem persists even with a LARGE map.

NOTE: I just found out that the game also crashes if you try to simply exit the game to go to the Main Menu.

I was getting something similar but then I cleaned up my computer, defraged my hard drive and now I am back to getting the problem only in the late game "transhuman" era where I know my PC is struggling because of all the units and graphics etc. I did it for other reasons but it may jsut work for you also.

HdS · Jul 7, 2009

It is possible to play a 2.63 game on 2.7?
I get a late game ctd at 2.63 and i assume it is caused by better ai (suggested in 2.63 bug thread).
But i want to finish the game - i don't like unfinished work

JosEPh_II · Jul 7, 2009

HdS said:
It is possible to play a 2.63 game on 2.7?
I get a late game ctd at 2.63 and i assume it is caused by better ai (suggested in 2.63 bug thread).
But i want to finish the game - i don't like unfinished work

Don't think so. 2.63 was based on the 3.17 Official Firaxis Patch.

2.7 is based on the Official 3.19 patch.

JosEPh

Jakob Safa · Jul 8, 2009

climat said:
- Changed: Port +1 health with Shrimp, no longer require Harbor in city (allows player to skip Harbor building if already has access to Port, building upgrade line still works like before)
- Changed: Commercial Port +1 health with Shrimp, no longer require Port
- Changed: International Port +1 health with Shrimp, no longer require Commercial Port

It is changed from 2.7test2, I think.

What is then the point of having ports in the game? You get commercial ports one tech later, why even bother building ports, not to mention that it is a bit weird as upgrading a port to commercial port cost you as much as building a whole new commercial port.

Retrospect · Jul 8, 2009

Jakob Safa said:
What is then the point of having ports in the game? You get commercial ports one tech later, why even bother building ports, not to mention that it is a bit weird as upgrading a port to commercial port cost you as much as building a whole new commercial port.

I have to agree here, i would like to see the mandatory upgrade path put back in place. I makes sense that the harbour would become a port, the port become a commercial port etc!

Thorongil · Jul 8, 2009

Retrospect said:
I have to agree here, i would like to see the mandatory upgrade path put back in place. I makes sense that the harbour would become a port, the port become a commercial port etc!

I also do agree. Even if the technical capabilities to build huge (international) ports out of nowhere exist, nobody would build it since ships wouldn´t automatically come. Most ports started out quite small and developed with increasing traffic (not the other way round).

zappara · Jul 8, 2009

tyranny12 said:
I have come across the dreaded 'stuck turn' that others are referencing. I don't know what is causing it - I can't see anything in the logs, but I don't know what to look for.

Attached find my save game and the log files, as per the FP. I've deleted a Civ or two to see if was a civ spawning thing, and I've disabled all wars. Both did not prevent the bug - but of course it could be a barb thing.

Gigantic map, marathon speed, early AD time frame. System is a 3.9Ghz, 64bit, 4gig system. Rebooting does not change the issue. Interface is still functional, can move around, reduce the leader list, and click the minmap. I have not had a single loading or crashing issue prior to the stuck turn.

BtS 3.19, RoM 2.7, no modmods, no addons. Any help would be appreciated...

@fox456
When I had that happen, it was on very large maps, and seemed to be limited to how much memory I had available. I'm hoping now that I run civ on a 64-bit system, the error will not reoccur - we will see.

The bug didn't occur when I tested your save. However because the map is gigantic the turns do take very long time - I check worldbuilder and there must be 30+ civs already and all continents full. Didn't see anything odd in the logs.

CivEikka said:
There is the save, right before I attack. (and no, I don't haw the stack attack option on.)

I couldn't get your save to crash...

rokel said:
I am getting a CTD every game I play. Normally this happens a couple of hours into gameplay, and even reloading will cause a crash on the second turn.

I reloaded the oldest auto-save and it also crashed when on the AI turn. I have no idea how to fix this, so I've attached my save in hopes someone can help me fix this.

Yup, there was CTD but I don't know what causes it - I'll have to investigate it more thoroughly.

zappara · Jul 8, 2009

Here's the current progress towards v2.71:

Spoiler :

I'm currently waiting for RevDCM's next version as the current one has few serious bugs that need to be fixed and I want those fixes in RoM's next version too (see #2 post in this thread about known issues).

I got also couple issues left to track down from RoM itself and I need to fix all the included map files so that they have new resources from v2.7.

I checked and tested the leader music file defines - there was nothing wrong and I couldn't replicate the bug few had mentioned in this thread.

Building upgrade paths have been working too and I haven't been able to build previous building type after the upgrade is in city.

The distance calculation in Revolution component is now fixed, there was "bug" just because RoM uses non-BtS-default flatmovement costs for route types. So I had to modify a bit that formula.

NBAfan · Jul 8, 2009

Zappara the music seems messed up for the leaders when I get to the trashuman era.

Afforess · Jul 8, 2009

This is just a minor point, but it bugs me that the maintenance cost for cities is GREATER for corporate than Socialized. Shouldn't socialized medical care be much more expensive that corporate care? Maybe the values should be swapped.

The P · Jul 8, 2009

I'm having two kind of weird bugs which begun appearing after I had both updated regular RoM and added a bunch of modmods.

1: After some time, Dynamic Civ Names stop updating. For example, there might be a civ with 5 cities and Monarchy-civic, and it will still be called "City State".

2: Only the modular Military civics seem to increase or decrease rebelliousness.

cr0ws · Jul 8, 2009

The P said:
I'm having two kind of weird bugs which begun appearing after I had both updated regular RoM and added a bunch of modmods.

1: After some time, Dynamic Civ Names stop updating. For example, there might be a civ with 5 cities and Monarchy-civic, and it will still be called "City State".

2: Only the modular Military civics seem to increase or decrease rebelliousness.

It's pointless complaining about bugs when you've added other mods to default ROM . Don't stress Zappa out with such nonesense.

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