Vox Populi bug? Returning capital to eliminated civilization not possible when it was a vassal?

[haerta]

Hello community,

I wonder whether I found a bug or it's a feature.

In my current game I am in war with Sweden. Gustavus Adolphus has Brazil at his vassal. While "defending" I captured cities from Brazil because the were closer than those from Sweden. When I conquered Brazils last city I eliminated Brazil from the game.

Anyway, Sweden still held some of Brazils cities, including their original capitals. My problem is that when I conquer a city from Sweden which was founded by Brazil, I don't get the option to return the city to Brazil, even if it was their original capital.

I play civilization V in version 1.0.3.279 (Steam) with Vox Populi (formerly known as the "Community Balance Patch") in its latest version.

The attached savegame allows to validate the described situation: next turn you can conquer two cities from Sweden: First Salvador and the folowing turn it's their capital: Rio de Janeiro.

Is this a bug? Is there a way to return these cities to Brazil somehow?

 

[Enginseer]

make it a github issue. From my understanding it's because the dead civ is still at war with you when they are supposed to be at peace and then re-war when revived.

https://github.com/LoneGazebo/Community-Patch-DLL/issues

 

[Gazebo]

You killed Brazil, you can never liberate them because you are the murderer. Not a bug.

G

 

[haerta]

Well, makes totally sense, I wouldn't know if it really was meant to be that way. I expected the game to rely more on basic mechanics instead of being unforegiving!
But that brings me to another question: What happens when the vassal period is ended? Will Brazil come back to live then? The the cities fall back to Brazil even though they were eliminated?

 

[cammcken]

This is can be a frustrating part about civ, but I do believe it's a "feature" of vassalage. If you want to liberate a vassal, but the vassal is between you and its master, then the master chose a strategic vassal. The vassal is successfully serving its role as a buffer state. You need to either fight them, or try to find a way around them while staying safe from their armies (a two- or even three-front war that requires overwhelming numbers.)

 

[Rekk]

And if you beat on the vassal's cities they become unhappy with the master, making it more likely they'll break when they can.