Vpr1-Monarch & Emperor

[rrau]

turn 0 (150bc)

demand Chinese leave or declare, they leave
check what otto would give for peace - a single pop 1 town or monarchy - nope

Check production - for being in a war, we're building a lot of city improvements and not many units
Rush libraries in Grand River and St regis
Rush Temple in Caughnawagha
Switch Tonawanda to MW
Rush courthouse in Kahnawake

Note: celts have horses hooked up, but not iron

Trade Mao Polytheism for 102g to deprive them of upgrades

Trade Celts: 200g+1gpt for 2 workers

ibt: carthage demands removal of our troops - comply
Grand River library => MW
Oil springs spear => MW
St Regis library => MW
Kahnawake courthouse => sword
Caughnawaga temple => sword

turn 1 (130bc)

move max healed troops toward Antayla
settler/spear pair s of Salamanca - can't find where they were going, so will send s away from war zone
single 4hp MW kills spear in Izmit and razes it - capturing 1 worker - looks like china is sending a settler pair this way, expect we'll get to repeat this in a little bit
MW takes out barb camp and is promoted to elite
Position 3 Mw outside Tautang (waiting for it to grow to 2 to declare)

ibt

resistance ends in Resnik - riots
Akwesasne spear => temple

turn 2 (110bc)

Mao knows republic
Trade celts republic for Monarchy + 90g (they still don't have iron hooked up)
Ottos would give up Adyin (size 2), but nope
Tatung size 2, dow on china
Capture Tatung(Chinese) - lost 1 MW
failed to capture Antayla(Otto), but have a fresh MW ready to try next turn
Raze Anyang (chinese)
capture Chinese settler
Adjust sci slider as low as possible for construction in 1

ibt

Enter MA
There's a massive barbarian uprising near Bursa
Choose to research Engineering
Tonawanda Mw => MW
Tyendenaga spear => worker (no improved tiles)

Turn 3 (90bc)

Nanking
reg sword kills reg spear
vet MW dies to reg spear
reg sword dies to reg spear and spear promotes

lose 2 mw attacking Antayla (no retreats)

bad rng turn

ibt

Salamanca settler => settler
Niagra Falls market => MW
Grand River Mw => MW
Oil spring MW => MW
Kahnawake sword => sword

turn 4 (70bc)

Rush Library in Mauch Chunk
move troops
heal troops
no attacks this turn

ibt

Carthage lands settler/numidian on our continent, get attacked by bhorse, and numidian promotes to elite
Mauch Chunk library => MW
St Regis MW => MW
Tyendenaga worker => temple
Chondoate riots (forgot to check )
Gayagaahe worker => temple

turn 5 (50bc)

reg sword attacks 4hp spear and captures Nanking (chinese) => worker
elite MW captures antayla (ottoman) no promotion

ibt

A galley almost sunk by 2 barb boats
China moves a single warrior next to Nanking (only offensive I saw in either war during my turns --except for barbs)
Niagra falls MW => MW
Iznik worker => courthouse
Tonawanda MW => MW

turn 6 (30bc)

found Gewauga => warrior
MW kills warrior near Nanking and promotes to elite

ibt

Oil Spring MW => MW
Resistance ends in Antalya and it riots

turn 7 (10bc)

reg sword kills reg spear and captures hangchow and 3 workers
Trying to make celtic settler go around some units to give our settler time to get to spices
Meet France they are very backward - don't know writing, HBR, currency or construction and are broke
start march with 4 MW to Otto's last city (2 are elite)

ibt

France demands removal of troops, ok
Celts and Carthage both settle towns this turn
Salamanca settler => settler
Niagra Falls mw => MW
Grand River MW=>MW
Allegheny library => market
Mauch Chunk MW => MW

turn 8 (10ad)

3 MW attack canton, 1 retreats, 2 win and canton is captured with 1 worker

ibt

China asks for peace, but will only give one city, nope we can get more
Buncha barbs moved next to Macao (and our MW outside of the town)
Tonawanda MW => market
Resistance in changhow ended
St Regis MW => MW
Spain completes SoZ in Barcelona

turn 9 (30ad)

would complete Great Lighthouse this turn, but I don't think we need it on this map so switch to ToA for itself or as a prebuild for SunTsu's

move MW's

ibt

Niagra Falls MW => MW
Oil Springs MW => MW
Mauch Chunk mW => MW
Awkwesasne temple => library
Kahnawake sword => sword
no wonder cascade from Spain building SoZ

turn 10 (50ad)

Position 4 MW's to finish off the Ottomans next turn

NOTES:

1. you have a nice stack of MW's building by Canton
2. In the South, a Chinese ship came down and dropped off some units west of Gewauga - unknown type - would try to get some units there to check it out
3. There's some barb stacks on the move - one near Gayagaahe (may go to us or Macao) and one that was last seen moving toward Aydin - so if we take it, be prepared to be sacked - maybe make it a barb sink and empty the treasury before that happens.
4. China is broke and has 6 cities plus capital and will only offer Macao for peace.
5. Cattaraugus is building ToA as either itself or prebuild for Sun Tzu's
6. Will learn Engineering in 2 (chose this as it was annoying having to cross multiple rivers to get troops N to chinese and AI's usually go top branch, so should be able to trade it)
7. Celts still don't have iron hooked up, but we have 10 turns of trade agreement left, so since our trading rep is golden, Viper would be able to dow on them on his first or second turn if they still don't have iron hooked up (they do have horses)
8. You have 3 settlers on the move - I think most are unescorted - placement is up to you


you don't know how tempted I was to play one more turn - by accident - and finish off the ottomans

 

[TheNemesis666]

nice turns rrau. ottomans put up even less of a fight than I'd expected. (not that I'd expected much)

 

[King Alexander]

Nice job rrau. The sooner we're rulers of our continent, the better.

Not yet a "got it". At work now. I'll check the situation we're in, but looks good.

EDIT: "I got it". I'll play tomorrow.

 

[King Alexander]

>>SAVE<<

IBT
The barbarians at Macao(chinese) attacked Gayagaahe instead and killed a spear, 1 lonely and red-lined spear survived (with Elite status), as the barb horses were many.

The Vikings started MoM, and they completed the Great Lighthouse in Trondheim.

Carthage begins MoM.

The Chinese city of Beijing completed the Pyramids: it must be captured.

8 more barb horse came out of nowhere near Aydin(last Otto city), and they smell trouble, I bet they’re going for Bursa(a lonely MW).

70AD (1)
I’ll begin from the Ottos first.
We capture Aydin, but we get no GL.
I kill 2 barb horses, 6 remaining.

We kill a Chinese spear/settler and we have 2 workers.

IBT
Carthage begins ToA, HG, the GW, and MoM.
Celts begin the GL, and the HG.
France begins the ToA, the HG, and the GW.
As I had predicted, 6 barb horses went for Bursa: our MW can’t reach Bursa in 1 turn.

90AD (2)
Golden Age is over.

We learn Engineering, I begin Feudalism at 30%, 14 turns.

We kill a spear at Macao.

Siege of Beijing: We kill 2 spears, and the city is ours. We now control the Pyramids.

110AD (3)
Move troops forward.

130AD (4)
I’m trying to finish my turns quickly, as I have a terrible headache.

As we attack Shangai with an Elite, we get a Military Great Leader. MW renamed to Secret Weapon.

I can’t finish my turns, as the headache gets worse. Sorry guys. Turn 4 is incomplete.
Inside Bursa are 3 barb horses: attack them each time with our MW(they don’t dare to attack, as they haven’t enough firepower). I really can’t tell more right now.

 

[rrau]

so far so good!

If everyone else agrees, let's give you an extension past the 48 hours to finish when the headache is gone

 

[viper275]

Yes, he can definitely get an extension. I have problems with headaches too (not at the moment, but it happens a lot.)

 

[fbouthil]

Well while Alexander is resting to get rid of his headache, I think we should think about what to do with the military great leader. I think the best thing to do with it is to build a FPalace, but where? Uskudar would reduce corruption in former Ottoman territory and Celt territory (soon to be conquered) while Oka would reduce corruption in former Chinese territory and Celt territory. Any preference anyone?

 

[King Alexander]

Well, I feel a little better now.

fbouthil suggested to rush our FP with the MGL. What do you think; get the FP in Oka or Uskudar(probably in Uskudar, as it's more to the center of the continent. Chondote will be abandoned, once we get rid of the Celts), OR, make an Army?

The FP will help a lot, to make our cities more productive; I hope, we'll get another MGL to make an army.

P.S.: thanks for the understanding with my headache.

EDIT: Cattaraugus is set on the ToA(due in 13). Does anyone want to switch to the GL(due in 4)?
I certainly don't want the ToA, but it's the wonder that'll help us to keep our shileds until Feudalism is researched.
We research at 30%, Feudalism in 13 turns. If we want to for Sun Tsu's, we must run a deficit(-9, at 40%, Feudalism in 9 turns), so we'd switch the pre-build in Cattaraugus.

 

[viper275]

Looks like we could afford a small deficit. Sun Tzu's could be pretty helpful. Oka sounds like a great spot for the FP, but we'd have to see if we can really have some core cities there to take advantage of the FP. Looks like a pretty good spot to me.

 

[fbouthil]

IMHO, once the FP is in place, the extra commerce will let us research at 40% with a deficit of less than 5g or maybe even a surplus.

 

[rrau]

I like Oka for the FP, too.

 

[King Alexander]

Here's what happened: the Spanish took the ToA. I don't know how they managed to take it. We really don't have many options: the Great Wall, and MoM are out of the question. Hanging Gardens and the Great Library are the options that we have, really.
We can't lose that many shields, and we have to decide what to build.

As for the FP, I'll rush it in Oka, as we 've agreed.

I'll wait for suggestions, before I play the remaining 5 turns.

EDIT: I'll post my turns tomorrow at afternoon(morning in the US).

 

[fbouthil]

Personnaly, I prefer HG to GL since Education is only 3 techs away. But I have another option to suggest:

Put Cattaraugus to a shield diet! Cattaraugus labors can work the tiles that produce as few shields as possible. When I tried it, it reduced it to 2 sh. By switching to GL, it would take 17 turns to complete so we could switch to Sun Tzu when feudalism is researched. The down-side of this plan is that there is a risk that another civ would complete GL before that and foil that plan.

 

[rrau]

I like fbouthil's idea - let's try that, if it fails, then HG

 

[TheNemesis666]

yeah, i vote for fbouthil's idea too. (and yay for the MGL)

 

[viper275]

I agree with fbouthil's as well. Why not use Palace as a prebuild in Cattaragus (as long as another city we have isn't building it, nobody's going to steal it.)

 

[TheNemesis666]

lol @ palace stealing.

 

[fbouthil]

I agree with fbouthil's as well. Why not use Palace as a prebuild in Cattaragus (as long as another city we have isn't building it, nobody's going to steal it.)

I suggested that we lower the amount of shield Cattaraugus was producing and switch to GL. What exactly are you agreing with? You do not have to spare my feelings when you have a better idea , you know.
So, heu, I agree with

275.

 

[viper275]

Sorry if I didn't make it clear. Lower the shield amounts in Cattaraugus and switch production to Palace. GL and HG both are 400 shields and so is Palace, IIRC. However, if other civs build those our prebuilds are gone, but that doesn't happen with palace.

 

[rrau]

lol @ palace stealing.

Isn't that when they come to call on your capital with a stack of tanks?