We Are All The Same

[civver_764]

I don't accept the implicit dichotomy between objective meaning and meaningless as valid. Subjective meaning, human meaning, meaning-through-practice, this is what I am interested in. It without a doubt exists; if it did not, you would simply curl up on the floor and die.

Yeah that's exactly how I used to justify everything to myself, but actually you are identifying objective meaning in whatever you consider to be undesirable with this moment. Why else would you care about it?

Life is a just story we all made up. There is no reason to take it seriously at all, it's just an illusion. "Subjective meaning" is you admitting that without wanting to take in the full implications of it.

 

[civver_764]

There is a theory within theoretical physics that states that we are not actually here, but in fact projections of ourselves, as is the rest of the universe, which in fact exists billions of light-years away, on the surface of the inside of a curved surface, in only two dimensions.

This doesn't change the basic fundamental truth that we are all the same thing, "where"ever it happens to be.

What is pure consciousness? What is consciousness? Why is the answer to either of these questions relevant to anything?

Consciousness is what is real, because it is what has always been with us and always will be. Everything else is actually just that.

 

[Borachio]

Life is a just story we all made up. There is no reason to take it seriously at all, it's just an illusion. "Subjective meaning" is you admitting that without wanting to take in the full implications of it.

Oh I think you really should take it very seriously. One day it's going to bite you to death.

Just don't take it personally. That's all.

 

[civver_764]

Oh I think you really should take it very seriously. One day it's going to bite you to death.

Just don't take it personally. That's all.

But there's actually no such thing as death.

 

[Borachio]

Really? I bet you're wrong on this one.

I will accept, though, that you cannot actually experience death. Is that what you mean?

No wait. If you believe you are everyone then...yeah, heat death of the universe must get you in the end.

 

[AlpsStranger]

Obligatory Alan Moore:


Link to video.

Amazing, and exactly true.

Why do you think people willingly imagine and then bow to a God as ruthless as cruel as Yahweh? The scariest thing of all is also the most obvious: Sh*t happens, then you die.

EDIT: And it's not even the "then you die" part that's scary. It's all the sh*t that happens first.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

Oh I think you really should take it very seriously. One day it's going to bite you to death.

Just don't take it personally. That's all.

I am thinking one can take live personally too only the person here cant be the ego the little "I"...

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

But there's actually no such thing as death.

One thing is to mentally recognise the possibility of this and another is to go beyond death by bringing forward the immortal consciousness from above/within. Till then death is going to be something very real.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

Consciousness is what is real, because it is what has always been with us and always will be. Everything else is actually just that.

There is actually no such thing as inconscience becouse there is some tiny portion of consciousness inside everything since consciousness is source of everything. It is know as Sat-Chit-Ananda (Existence-Consciousness-Bliss) the formless impersonal God.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

This doesn't change the basic fundamental truth that we are all the same thing, "where"ever it happens to be.

It's not a fundamental truth if no one agrees with you and you thought it up during a weird trip.

Consciousness is what is real, because it is what has always been with us and always will be. Everything else is actually just that.

So what isn't remembered in the past never happened and didn't exist?

Once again, while thought-provoking, nothing you're saying seems to be grounded in anything useful, nor does there seem to be any reason to even make such statements of "truth" except for Conspiracy Keanu value.

Spoiler :

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

So what isn't remembered in the past never happened and didn't exist?

I think there is a kind of consciousness where you can see past present and future all in the same time. On the other hand most things one doesnt remember for the reason - it just is not important. I think one in the process of experience assimilates the quintessence of it and moves on forgetting the unimportant details but the consciousness becouse of this slowly expands and develops some profoundity.

 

[Borachio]

We aren't all the Same. But we are all related.


Aren't we?



Some people can't forget stuff. It can be a real nuisance.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

I think there is a kind of consciousness where you can see past present and future all in the same time. On the other hand most things one doesnt remember for the reason - it just is not important. I think one in the process of experience assimilates the quintessence of it and moves on forgetting the unimportant details but the consciousness becouse of this slowly expands and develops some profoundity.

That sounds cool and stuff. What basis do you have at all for thinking that this is a truth of the universe?

 

[innonimatu]

Someone is having an existential crisis?

You are all individuals...

I'm not!

 

[Ayatollah So]

You are all individuals...

I'm not!

Well there's a good chance you're not - not in the usual sense, anyway.

If we try to come up with clear and precise rules for drawing the boundaries between one "thing" and the "next", we always seem to come to the conclusion that there is exactly one "thing" in the universe. It's called "the universe".

There is a way out of that conclusion, of course: to have unclear rules for drawing boundaries. Rules that are vague and arbitrary and convention-bound and that change in the middle of the game. Which then raises the puzzling question: why would anyone much care about which verdict those kind of rules delivered?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Yes, we are all individuals!

 

[timtofly]

Yes, we are all individuals!

And I thought the 3 parts of God were hard to explain.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

They're not the Messiah, they're very naughty boys.

 

[_random_]

But seriously, find a dealer you can trust so you don't wind up buying laced weed again.

 

[King Kalmah]

Forget God...for he is dead....

Nietzsche was so right and I believe everyone should read his great works...if you trust in god...avoid the sun that is Nietzsche he burns through that trust and shows you the truth....

he said that we cannot stop..we must continue to evolve...not conform but evolve...do not let boundaries or limits stop you!

But seriously, find a dealer you can trust so you don't wind up buying laced weed again.

but thats the best stuff....