We Need an Atheist Symbol!

[warpus]

Even you dont know any Tom, you may verify it.

Yeh, and we are attempting to verify if there's intelligent life out there. We just don't have the equipment to reach all other solar systems and perform detailed scans, yet.

There is no such thing we could do to verify the existence of God or Gods. That's why having an educated guess about life on other planets is reasonable, whereas making guesses about God involves faith.

Apples and oranges. You can prove that there are thousands of Toms Down Under in five minutes online. You cant google 'alien beings' and get listings of all the alien civs in the universe.

The difference is that Australia is easily accessible. I can imagine tests we can run to determine whether alien civilizations exist. The problem is that we don't have access to a lot of the data that is out there that might prove their existence. This is different than God because there is no test at all you could run.

Guessing and believing are too completely different things. Theres as much evidence for intelligent life beyond Earth as there is for the existence of God. So why rule one out, but not the other. Assuming we're proceeding solely on the basis of proof.

No there isn't. We already have encountered intelligent life - life on this planet. If it arose here, who's to say it didn't arise anywhere else? We have 1 example of it arising. Out of all the solar systems we've visited, life has existed in 100% of those solar systems. That's a pretty good track record if you ask me

I am not ruling out God either, just saying that it's 'bloody unlikely' that he/it exists, given the lack of evidence. However, there is plenty of evidence supporting life int he Universe, therefore a guess that there's more of it out there isn't that farfetched.

 

[Millman]

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Unless you have all the knowledge you ever wanted, this symbol still fits best for both athiesm and theism.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

No there isn't. We already have encountered intelligent life - life on this planet. If it arose here, who's to say it didn't arise anywhere else? We have 1 example of it arising. Out of all the solar systems we've visited, life has existed in 100% of those solar systems. That's a pretty good track record if you ask me

I agree completely, I have no doubt whatsoever that there is intelligent life out there.

I am not ruling out God either, just saying that it's 'bloody unlikely' that he/it exists, given the lack of evidence. However, there is plenty of evidence supporting life int he Universe, therefore a guess that there's more of it out there isn't that farfetched.

I think that the main difference between you and me is that I see the existence of life, and the universe itself, as proof that God exists

 

[warpus]

I think that the main difference between you and me is that I see the existence of life, and the universe itself, as proof that God exists

Perhaps.

You are not basing this opinion on anything other than faith though. You might as well look at all the life on this planet and say: "Chuck Norris created all this"

 

[Millman]

As a real person? I see the universe as a place where math exists, although it is not physical.

 

[mdwh]

True but anyone who rules out the existence of God because theres no proof, cant seriously entertain the idea that theres advanced life elsewhere in the universe (no proof). Gotcha! (I think )

There's a difference between what's conceivably possible, and actually believing. I think it's possible, and perhaps likely that life exists somewhere, even though I don't believe in any particular instance (the way people believe in God would be like believing that there's a particular alien race with particular features).

It's perhaps possible that a God exists, but I don't believe in one.

As for someone called Tom, the point is that I would be willing to say it's likely that at least one Tom exists even if I *didn't* run any tests to confirm this. I mean, are you seriously saying you would only dare to say a Tom might exist, if you could check the records?

But on the other hand, if someone said "There's this guy named Tom, and blah blah", I wouldn't know if that particular Tom existed, without knowing more.

Plus, we have far more evidence about life in order to be able to make better guesses about likelihood (for starters,we know that life started here, but we have no evidence of any Gods), where as we know nothing about how the Universe started, nor the nature of consciousness.

 

[azzaman333]

At least 3 Tom's live in Australia.

 

[puglover]

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Unless you have all the knowledge you ever wanted, this symbol still fits best for both athiesm and theism.

Although you may have to face copyright.

 

[Underseer]

Muwahahahaha! No matter what board you're on, this topic always results in a heated discussion/argument between atheists. Man, I love that!

 

[silver 2039]

Exactly, now you understand atheism

Of course I do. I've understoodd it for the past 3 years. I am atheist.

 

[Swedishguy]

I didn't have time to draw one, but I would suggest some combination of the infinity symbol (sideways '8') and a question mark. Keep on questioning.

Maybe my avatar in the middle, too.

 

[Veritass]

Sure, and our motto could be:

"Never stop axing questions."

 

[REDY]

Yeh, and we are attempting to verify if there's intelligent life out there. We just don't have the equipment to reach all other solar systems and perform detailed scans, yet.

Well I dont telling that God is not possible, but its clear that he should be anyone, spaghetti monster or Radioactive monkey...as I cant tell there are not vampires or radioactive monkey, I also cant tell that there isnt God. The point is that you werent verified that God exist and your example is totaly wrong.

 

[ArneHD]

Means thought in egyptian:

I like it for it's simplisity, but it does not convey the message of atheism. After all I think only a handfull (handfull, one or two words?) of people would understand it's meaning.

Good suggestion though, and I like the symbol.

Edit: Perhaps something that suggest emptyness and focus on rationality? Like rays coming from an empty circle?

 

[Underseer]

I like it for it's simplisity, but it does not convey the message of atheism. After all I think only a handfull (handfull, one or two words?) of people would understand it's meaning.

Good suggestion though, and I like the symbol.

Edit: Perhaps something that suggest emptyness and focus on rationality? Like rays coming from an empty circle?

Bad idea, because rationality is not universal to atheists, not believing in god is, hence the empty set symbol is more appropriate.

 

[Underseer]

All unclear is bad for me:/
The something had to start big bang, but what it was? If it still exist, this unknown power should influence something in the future...So I have fear.

At one time, people didn't know how the stars were made. That didn't turn out to be a magical sky faerie.

At one time, people didn't know how planets were made. That didn't turn out to be a magical sky faerie.

At one time, people didn't know how lightning was made. That didn't turn out to be a magical sky faerie.

Now we have a pretty good idea of the creation of the universe and we're starting to ask questions about existence itself. Why are you so convinced that this time it will turn out to the a magical sky faerie when all other times it turned out to be something entirely mundane and natural?

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

How about this one?

 

[Underseer]

View attachment 143237

How about this one?

Tell us why you think that symbol is more appropriate than others that have been suggested.

 

[puglover]

Tell us why you think that symbol is more appropriate than others that have been suggested.

It's CurtSibling's avatar.

Unfortunately, this was suggested on page 1.

 

[warpus]

Well I dont telling that God is not possible, but its clear that he should be anyone, spaghetti monster or Radioactive monkey...as I cant tell there are not vampires or radioactive monkey, I also cant tell that there isnt God. The point is that you werent verified that God exist and your example is totaly wrong.

I don't understand your point.