What civ will NEVER NEVER NEVER be in civ?

[lcorinth]

They didn't include the rennaisance because only Europe had it. The Arab world didn't even go through a dark age. China has been standing since the Roman Empire.

Well, the New World didn't have a Middle Ages, Pyramids, or gunpowder, and yet there are Inca in the game. A lot of the Civs included never had the technologies nor the time periods included (the Celts spring to mind as never making it to the Modern Era as a distinct culture, and America wasn't around at the dawn of civilization up until the Enlightenment). So, I don't think that's why they didn't include a Renaissance.

I guess what I mean is that the Middle Ages were a sort of militaristic, religious period, and the Renaissance was more reason-, art- and science-oriented... And it was a fascinating and exciting period, which in CivIII is skipped over, so that the game goes from M.A. to the Industrial period, which was about science, industry and commerce... I guess for the purposes of the game, the Renaissance isn't necessary, because it's sort of the transitional period. Still, it's a period I love, and would like to see some reference to it.

 

[Neomega]

Philistines, Scythians, Texans, Andorrans, Irish

 

[Greek Stud]

Mongoloid Cow hehe youre my hero. I read your last post. Hey werent you on the 2bigcommunity DGame, I think I remember you from somewhere?

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

Greek Stud: No, I didn't. I remember you from the Peloponnesian War and Alexander the Great scenario threads.

 

[dh_epic]

lcorinth, comparing the Inca to China isn't exactly a fair comparison. The Inca (proper) had no history at all beyond a certain point -- hypothetically, they COULD have gone on to follow Europe's path, with a dark ages, a rennaisance, an enlightenment.

But China actually DID have its own history that had various dynasties and so on.

That is to say -- you can't really complain when Civilization ignores an absense of history (e.g.: ancient America? modern Maya?). But I will very well complain if and when Civilization ignores someone's history, prefering to fit it into the convenient little box of European history.

Really, I'd just like to see some flexibility in playing through history. Why shouldn't players be able to follow the path through the dark ages, to the rennaisance and beyond -- whether they're China or France? But likewise, to balance this decision, both China and France should be able to play through a Near-Eastern-like tech tree, where they discover many of the scientific advances that occured from 700-1000 AD.

 

[Abaddon]

quite simply (or incredibly fidly and detailed) every civ should have more individuallity to its tech tree.

 

[LumpenProle]

The DUTCH should be in!

Are they? I don't know.
Sid put them into to Pirates so they must be important.
I will run 10k on Sunday in wooden shoes.
I want to raise awareness that the dutch must be included too.

And the Friesian's!

I used to custom civ in the Israelites and try to conquer canaan.
Could there be a nomadic people? like the mongolians?

 

[Cuivienen]

Sealand. The Kingdom of the Coral Sea. The Conch Republic. The Principality of Hutt River. The Kingdom of Anse-Saint-Jean. The Independent State of Aramoana.

And others.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronations

 

[Cuivienen]

The DUTCH should be in!

Are they? I don't know.
Sid put them into to Pirates so they must be important.
I will run 10k on Sunday in wooden shoes.
I want to raise awareness that the dutch must be included too.

And the Friesian's!

I used to custom civ in the Israelites and try to conquer canaan.
Could there be a nomadic people? like the mongolians?

The Dutch are in. They were added alongside the Byzantines, Mayans, Incans, Sumerians, Portuguese and Hittites in the Conquests expansion.

 

[Aegis]

Civs that will be in that shouldn't: America ... I mean, Abe in 4000bc!

Yeah! >=o( Only rulers who lived back then, like Otto Von Bismark, Jean de Arc, Elizabeth, Tokugawa and Mao, should be allowed in! >=o(

 

[Black_Hole]

martians.... yes they exist, I have talked to a few

 

[sir_schwick]

Vulcans will never be, although we all know that they are tied into future civilzation. We cannot disqualify future era civlizations just because they are not in the present.

Spoiler :

This is a joke. Making sure the humor challenged know.

 

[Perfection]

Roman Empire

 

[Stid]

the vatican would be nice to see the pope as a leaderhead RIP
or maybes san marino - the oldest republic in the world

 

[Gabryel Karolin]

Sheba wont be in the game.

Probably not Finland either, which is too bad, I guess you could count them in in a Scandinavia civ though since the culture is the same (mostly)... but the language is completely different.

 

[CurtSibling]

What civ will NEVER NEVER NEVER be in civ?

A decent AI system...

 

[Pentium]

Slovenia, an Eastern European nation in Curt's eyes.

 

[GeneralZed]

The aborigines

 

[rbis4rbb]

Lesotho
Sealand

 

[Commander Bello]

The Firaxians.

Right, because everyone would dogpile on them